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Minabunny
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
56
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:05:00 -
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Seek psychological help for your game addiction. |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
755
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:07:00 -
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Minabunny wrote:Seek psychological help for your game addiction. Let him wipe out high sec first.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |

Thomas Kreshant
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:17:00 -
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Well that's a lot of words and one day I may read them but not today I fear. |

Sidus Sarmiang
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
168
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:26:00 -
[124] - Quote
James 315 makes some damn fine posts and some damn good points. Most importantly, a new and disturbingly accurate perspective on what's been a trend in this game for a long time.
It's amazing how so many of the people trashing him are proving his points even better than he could. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
717
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:27:00 -
[125] - Quote
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Reason for reporting this thread: Make your boss read this.
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
93
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:29:00 -
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OP has a lot of time on his hands... and really should seek some counseling because he is taking internet spaceships WAY too serious. ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o )
The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
231
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:30:00 -
[127] - Quote
I Love Boobies wrote:OP has a lot of time on his hands... and really should seek some counseling because he is taking internet spaceships WAY too serious.
yet you say nothing about what he's saying
great going there meight eh |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
474
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:33:00 -
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I admit, I never thought of it that way. Indeed, the greatest threat is the one that goes unchecked.
Coming as this does right at the start (though early) of Burn Jita and the coming Hulkageddon events, there is the possibility for a very real turn around in the current trends in EVE. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
755
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:33:00 -
[129] - Quote
I Love Boobies wrote:OP has a lot of time on his hands... and really should seek some counseling because he is taking internet spaceships WAY too serious. Not really, it was an interesting read on a subject that comes up a lot. It was considerably more in depth than most forum posts, but its not longer than some gaming news articles have been in the past.
Like it or not Eve is an interesting subject, hell people have written economic papers on the game's economy, it stands to reason that on occasion people should write essays on the design philosophies of it's creators.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
717
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:34:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:OP has a lot of time on his hands... and really should seek some counseling because he is taking internet spaceships WAY too serious.
So you don't actually have anything to contribute to the conversation other than "lol I'm a 13 year old who can't read?"
Good to know, I guess. |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
755
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:34:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:I admit, I never thought of it that way. Indeed, the greatest threat is the one that goes unchecked.
Coming as this does right at the start (though early) of Burn Jita and the coming Hulkageddon events, there is the possibility for a very real turn around in the current trends in EVE. We can hope so.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |

Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
1009
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:35:00 -
[132] - Quote
James a good alternative for catching logged off miners' pods is have your alt drop probes in the belt at the smallest size, position them around the belt, and fleet warp your ishtar on top of the logged off pod. It's aggressed and'll stay there for 15 minutes. |

Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
719
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:37:00 -
[133] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:I admit, I never thought of it that way. Indeed, the greatest threat is the one that goes unchecked.
Coming as this does right at the start (though early) of Burn Jita and the coming Hulkageddon events, there is the possibility for a very real turn around in the current trends in EVE.
But there's a chance that CCP will completely screw up and decide to try to nerf ganking and non-consensual highsec PVP in response.
That's why we have to remain vigilant against the AFK Botting Asshats that are ruining EVE.
I do have to correct you however, Burn Jita hasn't started yet. We were just bored on a Thursday night. Really. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
476
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:38:00 -
[134] - Quote
Simi Kusoni wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:I admit, I never thought of it that way. Indeed, the greatest threat is the one that goes unchecked. Coming as this does right at the start (though early) of Burn Jita and the coming Hulkageddon events, there is the possibility for a very real turn around in the current trends in EVE. We can hope so. It's always possible as long as the game exists. "Where there's life, there's hope" as they say.
Of course, in EVE you can die and get into your clone, but you know what I mean. (Ever looked at your own frozen corpse? It's ... wierd). Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Ice Fist
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
133
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:39:00 -
[135] - Quote
This is a thread. There is nothing more hilarious than watching a bunch of morons who feel that they should be able to sit untanked and afk in a highsec belt totally safe spew their vitriolic hate all over James for his opinion. |

Valerius Kavees
Pilipino Corp C0NVICTED
0
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:45:00 -
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hmmmm amusingly this is too true...
and also alot of care bears is bitter in this aspect...
EvE is a game where you can do what you want to do.
If you go carebearing we dont care... but don't expect concord can help you with wardec/suicide gank... you're just a useless ***** if you keep whinning... go whine on your mother not on CCP... this is not PvE game like wow... this is unadulterated, unrelenting PvP game... and everything in eve revolves on PVP... from logistics to mining.... they all revolve on pvp
You want to go null sec? sure no problems... just make sure you know what you are doing... dont whine if you are ganked because of your stupidity in not looking in local channel... don't whine about titan can't be killed by sub caps... because they are not meant to... if you want to stop a titan... you throw in another titan to it... thats how null sec does it... thats how coalitions does it and thats how PL does it... seriously... titan was made to be 1 fleet ship... its just that the doomsday device that day causes too much lag that they need to tone it down... but it can still insta pop a carrier...
pretty much yes... high sec miners does kill pvp...
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Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
769
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:51:00 -
[137] - Quote
So when can we expect James to take over at CCP?
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |

Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
715
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:52:00 -
[138] - Quote
TL:DR such ******** wall of text without any content  |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1262
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:54:00 -
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James 315 wrote:The Mittani lobbied for the removal of alloy drops from the drone regions, thereby buffing nullsec ore. But will the highsec miners--the ones who spend all day begging for buffs to exhumers--relocate to nullsec as they should, or will they initiate a new series of demands for valuable ore to be placed in highsec? I guess we'll find out.
Dear Mr. sock puppet: you previously complained that carebears were responsible for killing nullsec mining, then skip over the introduction of drone poo, only to mention it in passing as one of the issues you have been lobbying about for a long time. Please take note that miners were the first to complain, and the loudest to complain, and the group who have complained the longest. Drone poo completely trashed mining as a profession, to the point that the only people left mining are those too burned out from their day jobs to handle anything ingame more stressful than dragging ore or ice from cargo hold to jet can. The introduction of the orca was a boon for mining safety, though a pox for mining profitability.
Please have a look at my ideas for changing mining: some include making mining "safer" but generally I wish to make mining require more thinking. I support the idea of more tightly segregating ores between sec statuses, in order to make lowsec mining valuable enough to warrant the security team that will be required for any commercially viable operation.
Not all miners are carebears, not all carebears are miners. The largest group of single-topic carebears in the game right now are Titan pilots, who insist that their mobile fortresses remain practically invulnerable. |

Corbin Blair
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:54:00 -
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Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote: Id say tier three BCs with no tanks that have battleship guns.
STFU if you didn't read the OP. I know it seems intimidating if you have the attention span of a humming bird on speed, but it's only going to take like 10 minutes even if you read slow. |

XIRUSPHERE
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
256
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:54:00 -
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It took 15 minutes to read, TLDR for a mouth breather perhaps. That being said, a proper synopses would be that risk aversion in a game about risk has been destroying EVE for years and CCP does little but enable it and would seem to be embracing it more than ever.
The crux of the argument is that miners are the worst of this lot, and I wholly agree. There is simply no other entity more cut throat about making isk for no other reason than to make isk while ignoring the very principles the game was built upon all while wanting the game dumbed down to support their addiction and sense of entitlement.
Thank you OP for being one of the few people on these forums who is actually capable of putting together so much articulated text that is both easy and a pleasure to read.
My view? Absolutely nothing in this game should be able to be done AFK at all, from mining to missions and even to cloaking all day in a system for the lulz. The point of using server resources is to be at your computer engaged with the game. The point of playing the game is to interact with others even if what you are doing is ACTIVELY avoiding them. If that were ever seriously addressed to the point that you couldn't afford to go AFK for even a few minutes in any sec doing an activity you profited from it would do the game so much good.
The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times.
One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear. |

Sirhan Blixt
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
56
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:54:00 -
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Simi Kusoni wrote:Like it or not Eve is an interesting subject, hell people have written economic papers on the game's economy, it stands to reason that on occasion people should write essays on the design philosophies of it's creators. NO I DO NOT LIKE IT RAAAAAAR MUST RAGE ABOUT BIG WORDS I CAN'T READ NOW
Seriously, kids: if you can't be arsed to do that much reading, you really don't belong on the internet. |

Stirko Hek
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.04.27 06:59:00 -
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I started playing EVE as a miner, end of 2008 when I lost my job. And it was fine for a bit, I made easy low risk ISK while I watched movies and did what unemployed people do when home alone. I moved cities looking for new work, and still mined away, hating the evil PVP types for daring to "ruin" my game.
Then I got a job. Working full time in an office, going over large figures and charging them to other companies, endlessly doing the same keyboard/mouse interactions over and over. Quickly, mining became a chore. It wasn't time enjoyed, there was no entertainment from the act of mining, merely what I did outside of EVE while I mined.
Soon after, I started a small corp with a handful of friends of mine, fitted up some cheap t1 frigates and took off to low/null. My first time out, I lasted two null sec gates before I got popped. We died horribly and got podded to a man.
It was fun. It was the first time I'd actually got any kind of buzz or thrill from EVE. To enjoy something, to truly get any sense of thrill from doing something, you have to have a chance to fail, to lose. Going into a situation where you can't die/lose, where there is no risk, you already know the outcome and there is no real sense of accomplishment, no sense of victory or triumph.
So, I'd ask those who still walk the path of mining in the comfort of the proverbial womb that is high sec two questions;
Are you really playing aand enjoying this game, or merely going through the motions while watching ? Why do you do what do you?
I'd also suggest to the die hard PVE/mining types to just get fit a Thrasher/t1 frig, fly around in low/null and take a risk for once. Personally, I've never looked back since. |

Alhezhar Alabyd al-Mu'minin
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.04.27 07:00:00 -
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I agree completely and I defy anyone who disagrees to do themselves a favor, take a few breaths and actually READ the ENTIRE series of POSTs before coming in here screaming one way or the other. You should know that nobody will respect what you have to say if you don't actually understand what you're talking about.
Sensible and profoundly important, demonstrating a special rarified sort of wisdom that's relevant even outside of the EvE community upon which he comments. Brava, James! A grand success! |

Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
35
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Posted - 2012.04.27 07:02:00 -
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Boring...
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Fractals 4Lyfe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
74
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Posted - 2012.04.27 07:05:00 -
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Bravo, a post worthy of the god-king Endie himself.
I agree completely with what you have said, and I caution other scammers like me that what CCP has done to highsec ganking, it seeks to do to scamming as well. |

Janecomando
Liandri Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.27 07:05:00 -
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Goons are terrorists of eve first off. They kill off anything that doesn't benafit them. If your blue to them your mearly a pawn in play at the momment or scared as **** of them. If you have seen any of thier recuitment causes you would agree. give us all your **** or sell it to us out in nullsec for some blah blah... either way its a retained system they have out there and coming down to highsec to blow the **** out of hulks is only hleping them to fund **** like nuken jita or w/e. They try to take all your eve worldly possesions because at that point your back down to noob status and completely dependant on them so they look like the hero. But in all honesty its slavery one oh one. Them attacking the bots fine that helped eve and kicked ccp in the ass and got them moving on the bot issue (sorry russians lol).
I've mined in all sec status in eve. Not a pro by any means, but I know this much. In eve as a noob who do you go to for a ship? The locals that supply you with your first cheap ship around thier "birth place" or the spot that all the skill books are. not null, so highsec miners are completly dependant on nullsec minerals or wh minerals either way two ways to get it. at no point do i see how highsec miners who don't pvp effect nullsec. miners mine the place ore is without resistance. so your pvp effects the miners in nullsec. I don't know one ******* miner who would mine while a enemy fleet was near by. ofc there is a exception with gankers but all they do is profit off of hard earned isk threw ganking for no reason but goons used you as pawn so they could sell more ships. I mean really are you all retards who don't get it. Greifing only helps the people who sponsore the ganking why would they pay you so much dam isk per gank. because it benafits them in some way. anyone ganking miners are all goons bitches you all are slaves for the bigger picture.
But don't looks for ccp to do anything about this bc goons does nothing but encourage more players sinking plex's into eve. so this act will never be banned. all it says is oh I like being goons ***** and like shooting **** that won't shoot me back. so yall are really the ultimate carebears complaining over the justifications of killing miners and the only way it effects nullsec is pilots jumpclone down to do some stupid **** and goons get more isk off hulk and destroyer production.
w/e this is my rant and i don't see how miners in highsec will ever be pvpers in null. the pvper that is sponserd by the highsec miner might move the miner out to null with him bc he has a eye on the situation but in the end its a logistical nightmare with trust issues and the limitations of the layout of your sov and what the stations offer at entry level. highsec doesn't care and i only have one question for goons and test.
Are you mad bro with that you can't control?
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Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1434
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Posted - 2012.04.27 07:08:00 -
[148] - Quote
Posting in a goon alt thread |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1262
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Posted - 2012.04.27 07:12:00 -
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James 315 wrote:[walking in stations] was the triumph of the carebear. By catering solely to the highsec crowd, CCP thought their subscriptions and profits would skyrocket. EVE would become the next WoW, a cash cow beyond their wildest dreams. By transitioning EVE away from that whole PvP thing, they would finally find a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
See, there you go misattributing motivations again. Team Awesome was focussed on pushing WiS as a way of appealing to the masses of trials who never converted to subscribers due to the lack of appeal of always being a space ship. This was not the hisec crowd that CCP was appealing to, it was people who never subscribed after trialling the game.
Sockpuppet of Mittani's Ego wrote:The Mittani and the Goons saved EVE, but only for a time. The carebears who pushed for Incarna are still among us, and they are still demanding an end to PvP. Unlike BoB, the cancer of carebearism was not removed; it only went into remission. The threat remains.
The people who want WiS are not all carebears. Not all carebears want WiS. One of the reasons your 18 post rant comes off looking so poorly thought out and disconnected is that you conflate these two issues. You conflate all the play styles that you don't like into one mass and label that mass "carebears" regardless of whether that player participates on PvP outside the structure bashing confines of nullsec.
What really killed PvP in nullsec was hot drops, cap & supercap proliferation, the focus on structure bashing, the endless NAP/NIPs and the focus of alliance leadership on moon mining as an income stream. Real PvP is still alive, you must have to enter w-space to find it. Of course that means leaving behind the safety of Titan bridges and supercarrier logistics support, along with the perfect intel of Local chat, what really killed nullsec PvP was mudflation: the progressive growth of equipment level that inevitably lead to the situation of a few dozen p,ayers being able to shut any small alliance put of nullsec permanently.
What really threatens the future of the game is players who insist that their play style is the only legitimate playstyle in the game, players who think that EVE has an "endgame" and players who view any progress in playstyles that are not theirs as the death of their playstyle.
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Alhezhar Alabyd al-Mu'minin
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.04.27 07:15:00 -
[150] - Quote
Janecomando wrote:Goons are terrorists of eve first off. They kill off anything that doesn't benafit them. If your blue to them your mearly a pawn in play at the momment or scared as **** of them. If you have seen any of thier recuitment causes you would agree. give us all your **** or sell it to us out in nullsec for some blah blah... either way its a retained system they have out there and coming down to highsec to blow the **** out of hulks is only hleping them to fund **** like nuken jita or w/e. They try to take all your eve worldly possesions because at that point your back down to noob status and completely dependant on them so they look like the hero. But in all honesty its slavery one oh one. Them attacking the bots fine that helped eve and kicked ccp in the ass and got them moving on the bot issue (sorry russians lol).
I've mined in all sec status in eve. Not a pro by any means, but I know this much. In eve as a noob who do you go to for a ship? The locals that supply you with your first cheap ship around thier "birth place" or the spot that all the skill books are. not null, so highsec miners are completly dependant on nullsec minerals or wh minerals either way two ways to get it. at no point do i see how highsec miners who don't pvp effect nullsec. miners mine the place ore is without resistance. so your pvp effects the miners in nullsec. I don't know one ******* miner who would mine while a enemy fleet was near by. ofc there is a exception with gankers but all they do is profit off of hard earned isk threw ganking for no reason but goons used you as pawn so they could sell more ships. I mean really are you all retards who don't get it. Greifing only helps the people who sponsore the ganking why would they pay you so much dam isk per gank. because it benafits them in some way. anyone ganking miners are all goons bitches you all are slaves for the bigger picture.
But don't looks for ccp to do anything about this bc goons does nothing but encourage more players sinking plex's into eve. so this act will never be banned. all it says is oh I like being goons ***** and like shooting **** that won't shoot me back. so yall are really the ultimate carebears complaining over the justifications of killing miners and the only way it effects nullsec is pilots jumpclone down to do some stupid **** and goons get more isk off hulk and destroyer production.
w/e this is my rant and i don't see how miners in highsec will ever be pvpers in null. the pvper that is sponserd by the highsec miner might move the miner out to null with him bc he has a eye on the situation but in the end its a logistical nightmare with trust issues and the limitations of the layout of your sov and what the stations offer at entry level. highsec doesn't care and i only have one question for goons and test.
Are you mad bro with that you can't control?
Now, I find Grammar **** attacks to be generally ad hominem and thus typically dismissable, but I'm afraid that in a case as egregious as this, I'm going to have to offer up your complete lack of any structure or rule as evidence of your muddle thinking, further confounded by the fact that none of what you have written here makes any sense at all. |
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