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marakor
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Posted - 2009.03.10 01:14:00 -
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FALCON Actually they only have a "chance" to jam ships, but in a small to med sized gang id choose the falcon.
CURSE/PILGRIM Arguably the two greatest solo ships in the game (depending on witch you prefer) i would most proly choose one these over any other solo ship in the game.
RAPIER Weaker since the web nerf but had a very long day in the sun as the "most used recon" during the nano age.
ARAZU Using this ship correctly with a buddy in a dmg dealer can make you gankers to be reckoned with. Its guaranteed effect within its optimal makes it a ship you can totally rely on when ganking a larger dangerous foe.
Unlike jammers on a falcon that can fail and get your team mate melted by a monster the damp/scram fitted arazu is a ship that can be relied upon and plan your tactics around when in 2-3 man roaming ganks (works rather well along side the rapier and cerb in a 3 man gank team as a matter of fact).
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marakor
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Posted - 2009.03.10 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Caldari Citizen4714 A single ECCM on a battleship isn't enough to be able to do jack while being jammed by a falcon. You need a minimum of two on a battleship to be able to do anything with 75% reliability if you're the sole target of jams.
Why would you be the sole target of jams if you were in a BS?.
Most falcon pilots spread out jams over the ship in a gang...unless you are not in a gang and you are solo, but then you would be in the process of getting ganked by a hostile gang anyway....
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marakor
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Posted - 2009.03.10 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Vitrael Ship name: Falcon Purpose: Ender of PVP
*Combat Simulation Engaged*
1. Your Hurricane warp scrambles target Ishtar. 2. Target Ishtar warp scrambles your Hurricane. 3. You are pwning! 4. Falcon warps in. 5. You are jammed 6. Your wingman is jammed 7. Your grandmother is jammed. 8. You are dead. 9. Your wingman and grandmother are dead.
And when you actually try some pvp instead of just running worthless emo fueled scenarios you will do everybody a favor and stop posting idiocy.
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marakor
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Posted - 2009.03.10 20:08:00 -
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Edited by: marakor on 10/03/2009 20:12:03
Originally by: Gneeznow
74 sensor strength, 2x ECCM, was jammed with ease 3 cycles in a row, the falcon never missed a jam, had a similar repeat the following day in the same ishtar, falcon jammed me with ease for 2 cycles enough for his frighter to warp out
FALCONS ARE BROKEN
cue the achura falcon defence squad to this thread to feverently try to defend it
And you think a picture proves you were jammed 3 times on the trot?....Its a little odd that you cut off your overview in that screenie as well so it does not show who or what you were fighting.
I saw a fella post a screenie of a carrier with over 500str once, he claimed that he was "jammed several times on the trot as well" until we asked him to make fraps instead of a single shot screenie and then we did not see any more posts from him.....
And even if you are so obsessed that you do try to make fraps how many times do you think you would need to run the test over and over again to get the result you want to show????...
YOU FAIL.
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marakor
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Posted - 2009.03.10 22:15:00 -
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Edited by: marakor on 10/03/2009 22:24:43
Originally by: Gneeznow
Originally by: Geong Si I'm curious, were you planning to kill him with kindness?
Someone's never heard of ishtar :\
Originally by: marakor And you think a picture proves you were jammed 3 times on the trot?....Its a little odd that you cut off your overview in that screenie as well so it does not show who or what you were fighting.
I saw a fella post a screenie of a carrier with over 500str once, he claimed that he was "jammed several times on the trot as well" until we asked him to make fraps instead of a single shot screenie and then we did not see any more posts from him.....
And even if you are so obsessed that you do try to make fraps how many times do you think you would need to run the test over and over again to get the result you want to show????...
YOU FAIL.
this is a really solid argument
Considerably more solid than a edited screenie and a claim of a triple jam cycle imho....
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marakor
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Posted - 2009.03.11 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Typhado3
Originally by: AnmmnA Why those people dont cry when an Arazu scramble him at 70 Km ? Or Rapier freeze their ship to 0.1 m/s ?. Or Curse perma-dry your capacitor ?
Just like to point out curse does jack all to stop proj/missile/drone users, rapier with 6 webs can only slow a ship to 9.6% of it's max speed (slightly better than 1 old web). Also you only mentioned the secondary bonus not the actual ewar bonus (TP, TD, SD).
The fact is that in most cases when a ship is getting ganked the other effects give the player getting ganked the "illusion" of having a chance while ecm lays it bare that they do not.
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marakor
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Posted - 2009.03.13 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jan'z Kolna there's increasing number of lowsec gangs comprised entirely of BS and falcons - mind you, no other recons
What do they tackle smaller ships with if they only have BS and falcons?.
Originally by: Jan'z Kolna on top of that, there's inreasing number of falcons in those gangs , currently it's about 30% of all ships in gang
Sounds like a good balanced gang setup to me:
50-60% dmg. 20-30% ewar. 10-20% tackle.
Obviously the figures can be switched around a little if you are using logistical ships instead of having RR fitted to your dmg dealers ect........
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marakor
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Posted - 2009.03.13 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Jan'z Kolna there's increasing number of lowsec gangs comprised entirely of BS and falcons - mind you, no other recons
What do they tackle smaller ships with if they only have BS and falcons?.
BS + SB, of courseā
You aint gonna catch much small stuff even with a boosted BS, ppl like him who exaggerate should think before they post imho.
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marakor
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Posted - 2009.03.13 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Zubakis
Hics are for smaller stuff.
Read the original post...the gangs had only BS and falcons.....bolded and underlined just for you.
Originally by: Kolna there's increasing number of lowsec gangs comprised entirely of BS and falcons
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marakor
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Posted - 2009.03.13 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Zubakis
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Zubakis
Hics are for smaller stuff.
Read the original post...the gangs had only BS and falcons.....bolded and underlined just for you.
Originally by: Kolna there's increasing number of lowsec gangs comprised entirely of BS and falcons
So what? Chill a pill, he exagerated.
If you need to exaggerate to try and prove that summat needs a nerf it obviosly does not.
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marakor
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Posted - 2009.03.13 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Look guys,
Tracking Disruptors are now scripted (range/speed).
Remote Sensor Dampeners are now scripted (range/strength).
Target Painters could be scripted (range/strength).
ECM could be scripted (range/strength).
TD's and DAMPS EFFECTS are either range or str/speed.
TP's do not use scripts at all.
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marakor
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Posted - 2009.03.13 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Look guys,
Tracking Disruptors are now scripted (range/speed).
Remote Sensor Dampeners are now scripted (range/strength).
Target Painters could be scripted (range/strength).
ECM could be scripted (range/strength).
TD's and DAMPS EFFECTS are either range or str/speed.
TP's do not use scripts at all.
ECM does not have 2 separate effects so it cannot be scripted to do one or the other like damps and TD's...
No, man. I'm saying that we should script Target Painters and ECM to bring them inline with other forms of electronic warfare.
Bad idea for 2 reasons
1. It will make the the bonused ECM ships worthless for med sized gang combat.
2. It will bring us back to the days where every ship with a extra mids will have a STR scripted ECM fitted.
ECM is fine as it is, although some of the other recons could do with a bonus boost to their ewar systems.
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marakor
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Originally by: marakor Bad idea for 2 reasons
1. It will make the the bonused ECM ships worthless for med sized gang combat.
2. It will bring us back to the days where every ship with a extra mids will have a STR scripted ECM fitted.
ECM is fine as it is, although some of the other recons could do with a bonus boost to their ewar systems.
No, it is not a bad idea.
1. Yes, it will make them worthless for med sized gang combat. When was the last time you saw an Arazu or a Lachesis in a small gang?.
That depends on how small cos in a 2-3 man gang they are much better than the falcon as the ewar support. And the other recons apart from the falcon are also pretty awesome solo ships as well...curse/pilgrim have to be the best solo ships in the game.
To everything their is a niche and the falcon is the med sized gang ship while it is useless at everything else.
And yes its annoying if you get ganked by a gang with a falcon in it but the fact is if you are in a single ship against a gang with ewar and setup to kill you were gonna die anyway and being jammed made no difference it just gave you summat to blame.
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marakor
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Posted - 2009.03.14 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: marakor on 14/03/2009 16:29:19
Originally by: Zaraki KenpachiSan
Originally by: But Sects ECCM
DON'T WORK NOOB
ECCM works, and while it needs a secondary effect and maybe a adjustment here and there its still effective as it is.
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