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Cord Cutter
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Posted - 2009.03.12 05:31:00 -
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I remember when and not to long ago I could fly through 10 different systems and scan for drones and it would tell me whethere it was a tech2 drone or a tech1 drone, it would give me the name of the drone and i could warp near the drone and re-evalutate it's position using my directional scanner and a smaller probe i was able to find it in less than 5 minutes, some days I would come back to my office with 10 to 20 drones, not a huge profit but was good fun, now my ship has these sphere's that i am suppose to move around in space, they are translucent and hard to see with the shiny sun of my system always in the way, I feel like I am designing something with 3d studio, by the time I get a hit and get my probes resized then moved in closer then resized my eyes hurt and finnaly it tell me i have found a tech1 hammerhead, oh boy I rush to it but My warp doesn't work so i must position the globes and resize them and move them in closer 35 minutes rolls around, hmmm.. maybe if there was another scanner probe for small sig radius's ? idk all i know is it's not fun anymore
I encourage the staff at CCP to try and find 10 drones in a system in less than a hour, and if you can do it, I will bow
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DreadLust Inbortaliss
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Posted - 2009.03.12 05:54:00 -
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lol you are right I am not into this new scanning crap at all.. it's hard to see and hard to do and takes up way to much time. watch the price of rigs rise even higher and tech2 drones will go up because no one will find the lost ones and return them to the market.
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Coal Scope
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Posted - 2009.03.12 07:08:00 -
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Here's one for you , how is it that a 10,000 isk shuttle can find it's way 30 jumps on autopilot to every gate in it's path within 10km which is theoretically different depending on it's placement from the gate, yet it's next to impossible to find a drone with 4 probes set at a 0.5au radius, please tell me that the person who came up with this idea at least graduated highschool and has a basic understanding of physics and quadrametric deviation, a probe sends off a signal which bounces back from a object, the time it takes to bounce back gives a understanding of it's range.. if for example the rings inside the circle overlap between the four you have a hit, You altered a part of the game i enjoyed also and i am hoping it's not lost forever... Thanks
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Hugh Ruka
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
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Posted - 2009.03.12 07:54:00 -
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yeah I enjoyed dron scavenging some time ago too ... was very please when I found a wing of abandoned garde IIs :-)
not so fun anymore ... takes too much time and too much effort ... --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed ! |
Chips nBeans
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Posted - 2009.03.12 09:30:00 -
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once you learn the probe controls you can scan anything down in 5-10 minutes. You just havnt got the hang of it yet.
Even when I had only just started using the system on sisi it took me 25mins, after practising and realizing the usefulness of the shift command now it only takes about 5 mins to scan easy things. Maybe 10 mins to scan a difficult plex.
Anyway, I dont beleive your some sort of drone scavenger, most probably your a mission griever and now your crying because your favorite toy has been taken away.
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Hugh Ruka
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
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Posted - 2009.03.12 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Chips nBeans once you learn the probe controls you can scan anything down in 5-10 minutes. You just havnt got the hang of it yet.
Even when I had only just started using the system on sisi it took me 25mins, after practising and realizing the usefulness of the shift command now it only takes about 5 mins to scan easy things. Maybe 10 mins to scan a difficult plex.
Anyway, I dont beleive your some sort of drone scavenger, most probably your a mission griever and now your crying because your favorite toy has been taken away.
does it make a difference ? the primary issue is looking for drones ... the final goal is irrelevant ... --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed ! |
Kaya Valda
Caldari Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2009.03.12 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Coal Scope Here's one for you , how is it that a 10,000 isk shuttle can find it's way 30 jumps on autopilot to every gate in it's path within 10km which is theoretically different depending on it's placement from the gate, yet it's next to impossible to find a drone with 4 probes set at a 0.5au radius, please tell me that the person who came up with this idea at least graduated highschool and has a basic understanding of physics and quadrametric deviation, a probe sends off a signal which bounces back from a object, the time it takes to bounce back gives a understanding of it's range.. if for example the rings inside the circle overlap between the four you have a hit, You altered a part of the game i enjoyed also and i am hoping it's not lost forever... Thanks
Because star gates have beacons. Your ship doesn't need to 'find' them because the beacon is telling everything in the solar system where it is. Also their locations don't change and therefore ship systems already have a map of where they are. |
DreadLust Inbortaliss
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Posted - 2009.03.12 19:10:00 -
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Because star gates have beacons. Your ship doesn't need to 'find' them because the beacon is telling everything in the solar system where it is. Also their locations don't change and therefore ship systems already have a map of where they are.
Wow! did you read that in the owners manual..
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Ivy Scorn
Amarr Nethro Ore Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.03.12 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: DreadLust Inbortaliss Wow! did you read that in the owners manual..
I believe he merely applied common sense. Stargates have been in use for millennia. It stands to reason that even the rustiest minmatar shuttle has been programmed with their locations by now. |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.03.12 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Chips nBeans <snip>... now it only takes about 5 mins to scan easy things. Maybe 10 mins to scan a difficult plex.
This can get even faster, a lot faster. Using an ship with no bonus and all skills at 4 I am finding anything try for inside three minutes, four if I mess up and get too eager.
As for the original complaint. Last I hear the signature dampening that was put on dead-spaces to protect from the 23s probe has been lifted.
Have you tried probing for the ship rather than its drones? If the dampening really has been removed scanning for the ship will be a lot easier than the drones.
Other than that, keep practising and read whatever threads you can find. Probing is very much the topic of the week with lots of Huzzahs! and loud gnashing of teeth to be heard so plenty to find.
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Cord Cutter
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Posted - 2009.03.13 01:13:00 -
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Just to clarify, I am not trying to hunt down a person in a mission and steal their salvage I have had that happen to me and I didn't enjoy not being able to do anything about it and ended up blowing up my own wrecks before they could get to them. What I like to do is scan a system for lost drones, (left behind by a player that forgets to return them to the drone bay) or ones that have disconnected and someone was to lazy to get in range, when I do end up inside someone's mission I promptly warp away and start the scanning over, I am looking for the drones (tech2) and sometimes the salvage that is left behind is also a bonus and has only minutes probably before it expires. This can be alot of fun if you can lead a crew (corp) around with you , as you go ahead of them and scan, but now it's taking about 25 minutes to find them and there is no guarantee they are even tech2, most of the time they are tech1. Which I am not picky I always pick them up. Thing is the the other scanner works great and i have enjoyed finding wormholes but the combat scanner definetly needs and upgrade..
All in favor please say Aye
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Draco Argen
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Posted - 2009.03.13 01:31:00 -
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I love what the players have made/evolved eve. The CCP designers make an omission of allowing you to warp of without your drones, they leave it because it's a little "told you so" to the inexperienced or forgetful, and not an expensive mistake most of the time.
And a profession develops that hunt down and sell the lost and forgotten drones, how dam cool. I had no idea this was practiced. I bet CCP weren't fully aware. Hence why your profession has been nerfed. Which sucks major time!
However although my target is WH's I can agree that scanning can be perfected to a higher degree with RL experience (my skills are pants and i use a raptor, not a covops, cos i cba) and your own personal tricks. But i'm not sure this can be quite the same as previous for drones. I will try scanning out drones with combat probes and see if i can do any better. Given i've played with scanning on SISI since it was released. I get the feeling your right :(
Oh and to those that would slight this OP as a pirate or mission stealer, how dam uninventive of you. eve is a diverse and really unbounded game, don't be so bloody rude and bitter.
Shame Eve is so full of bugs?! Perhaps you can hunt those and sell them for isk? good money ;D
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