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Kye Do'lan
Gallente
The Whitesands Consortium
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Posted - 2009.03.12 22:16:00 -
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I've just found something in an Unknown, through a wormhole.
To me it looks like a black hole, just wondering if anyone else has found anything like this.
small vid of black hole
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Murasaki Ryujin
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Posted - 2009.03.12 22:18:00 -
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cool, i just thought you were talking about Jita today 
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DemonD73
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Posted - 2009.03.12 22:27:00 -
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Lol. What song is that in the vid? Sounds like he's saying phenomenon.
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Kye Do'lan
Gallente
The Whitesands Consortium
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Posted - 2009.03.12 22:40:00 -
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Don't know how the music got on there...was listening to eve radio at the time :)
may be something to do with that
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digital0verdose
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.12 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: digital0verdose on 12/03/2009 23:23:47
 Originally by: Kye Do'lan
Don't know how the music got on there...was listening to eve radio at the time :)
may be something to do with that
That is not what a black hole would look like at all actually. Also, if it were a black hole and you were that close, assuming you would actually live long enough to recognize it let alone see it due to it sucking in all light, you would see your ship stretch and spiral into an infinitely small point.
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Kazami Kozura
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Posted - 2009.03.12 23:39:00 -
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to be exact, you would not see anything if you get sucked in cause no light comes back from a black hole ... (if it gets beyond the schwarzschildradius)
if you are far enough away, you can see a black hole only indirect, cause the material getting sucked in ionise.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2009.03.12 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: digital0verdose
Edited by: digital0verdose on 12/03/2009 23:23:47
Originally by: Kye Do'lan
Don't know how the music got on there...was listening to eve radio at the time :)
may be something to do with that
That is not what a black hole would look like at all actually. Also, if it were a black hole and you were that close, assuming you would actually live long enough to recognize it let alone see it due to it sucking in all light, you would see your ship stretch and spiral into an infinitely small point.
You could possibly "see" emissions from matter (such as particles coming off a nearby star) being sucked into it before it had passed the point where light can no longer escape. Very very simple terms but that's basically what I remember from what I have read about them.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started. |
Sheikh Yarbhouti
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Posted - 2009.03.12 23:57:00 -
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Approach it, and see if you can enter it? Maybe it's a wormhole that exits to Jove space or something.
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Dalacha
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.13 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: DemonD73
Edited by: DemonD73 on 12/03/2009 22:27:14
Lol. What song is that in the vid?
That would be "Manamana" by the Muppets.
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Implicatus
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Posted - 2009.03.13 01:18:00 -
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Edited by: Implicatus on 13/03/2009 01:18:31
30 seconds of bad video posted in the forums = epic fail
getting 30,000 people to stare at it while playing Muppet's tunes
PRICELESS
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Karanth
Gallente
Independent Fleet
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2009.03.13 02:44:00 -
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I saw something in a system earlier that wasn't quite right. I couldn't click it or anything, and when I had entered the system it had said soemthing about ship systems not working as normal or the like. I didn't think to screencap it though 
Didn't notice anything different on my covops though.
Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans
Sorry, no. You have to go into wormholes and get farmed by the new AI NPCs like everyone else...
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2009.03.13 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Implicatus
Edited by: Implicatus on 13/03/2009 01:18:31
30 seconds of bad video posted in the forums = epic fail
getting 30,000 people to stare at it while playing Muppet's tunes
PRICELESS
It totally sounds like "doot dooooo doo doo doot.. PHENOMENON". It was so fitting 
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started. |
Lord Myre
Caldari
Heaven's Gate
Scalar Federation
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Posted - 2009.03.13 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: digital0verdose
Edited by: digital0verdose on 12/03/2009 23:23:47
Originally by: Kye Do'lan
Don't know how the music got on there...was listening to eve radio at the time :)
may be something to do with that
That is not what a black hole would look like at all actually. Also, if it were a black hole and you were that close, assuming you would actually live long enough to recognize it let alone see it due to it sucking in all light, you would see your ship stretch and spiral into an infinitely small point.
You all should read up on Event Horizons dealing with black holes. There would be very little noticeable changes as you approached the Event to you but to others further away you would appear to freeze in time.
You know you have played way to much Eve when you are in a car accident and run away so you dont get podded. |
Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2009.03.13 16:45:00 -
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I've never seen one before, no-one has, but I'm guessing it's a white black hole.
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digital0verdose
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.13 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Myre
Originally by: digital0verdose
Edited by: digital0verdose on 12/03/2009 23:23:47
Originally by: Kye Do'lan
Don't know how the music got on there...was listening to eve radio at the time :)
may be something to do with that
That is not what a black hole would look like at all actually. Also, if it were a black hole and you were that close, assuming you would actually live long enough to recognize it let alone see it due to it sucking in all light, you would see your ship stretch and spiral into an infinitely small point.
You all should read up on Event Horizons dealing with black holes. There would be very little noticeable changes as you approached the Event to you but to others further away you would appear to freeze in time.
I wasn't talking about the accretion disk, I was talking about the point beyond just beyond the event horizon where the typical rules of matter start to fly out the window since the screen shot the OP took and mistakenly thought may be a black hole looks to be byond the accretion disk as well which is why I said, "assuming you would actually live long enough to recognize it let alone see it due to it sucking in all light, you would see your ship stretch and spiral into an infinitely small point," which also takes into account the fact that the way EvE is presented is not first person, thus could potentially be an outside viewer watching the event unfold.
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Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
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Posted - 2009.03.13 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Karanth
I saw something in a system earlier that wasn't quite right. I couldn't click it or anything, and when I had entered the system it had said soemthing about ship systems not working as normal or the like. I didn't think to screencap it though
Didn't notice anything different on my covops though.
A similar thing I had, a bright blue pulsating object but not warpable. I did get the same message ("ship systems won't work properly" or so) but also my shields went down by 30% or 40% immediately after jumping through the hole into the system.
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Nierna
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Posted - 2009.03.13 19:50:00 -
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Edited by: Nierna on 13/03/2009 19:50:17
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the screen shot the OP took and mistakenly thought may be a black hole looks to be byond the accretion disk
ever seen one IRL then? cant realy compare it to anything but artist impressions that people made.
Originally by: Kolmogorow
Originally by: Karanth
I saw something in a system earlier that wasn't quite right. I couldn't click it or anything, and when I had entered the system it had said soemthing about ship systems not working as normal or the like. I didn't think to screencap it though
Didn't notice anything different on my covops though.
A similar thing I had, a bright blue pulsating object but not warpable. I did get the same message ("ship systems won't work properly" or so) but also my shields went down by 30% or 40% immediately after jumping through the hole into the system.
that would have been a pulsar. a star that emits mater and energy from its north and south pole. the pulsating effect is becouse of its rotation wich means the pole isn;t awlays pointed at you.
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digital0verdose
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.13 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: digital0verdose on 13/03/2009 19:59:03
Originally by: Nierna
Edited by: Nierna on 13/03/2009 19:50:17
Quote:
the screen shot the OP took and mistakenly thought may be a black hole looks to be byond the accretion disk
ever seen one IRL then? cant realy compare it to anything but artist impressions that people made.
I'm relying on what science has theorized and what many scientist agree upon.
Try not to be so ostentatious.
We could keep talking about this all day but you're too busy reading my sig instead.
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Lucjan
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Posted - 2009.03.13 20:04:00 -
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ARG! you found it! nice!
what bonuses or debuffs does it do?
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P'Tak
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Posted - 2009.03.13 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lucjan
Edited by: Lucjan on 13/03/2009 20:09:16
ARG! you found it! nice!
what bonuses or debuffs does it do?
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it gives speed boost but fiddles with optimal range..and not in a good way
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Ecky X
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:49:00 -
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A corpmate reported finding a binary system.
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Cygwin Gaad
Caldari
The Element Syndicate
Black Mesa Project
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Posted - 2009.03.13 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ecky X
A corpmate reported finding a binary system.
now thats cool.
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Psi Draconis
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Posted - 2009.03.14 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kazami Kozura
to be exact, you would not see anything if you get sucked in cause no light comes back from a black hole ... (if it gets beyond the schwarzschildradius)
if you are far enough away, you can see a black hole only indirect, cause the material getting sucked in ionise.
So event horizon doesn't ring a bell?
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Gundy3
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Posted - 2009.03.14 00:16:00 -
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me thinks its a quasar
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Galadarus Starseeker
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Posted - 2009.03.14 00:20:00 -
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I suspect it is a wormhole which is either forming and not yet traversable or decaying and no longer usable..
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digital0verdose
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.14 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Psi Draconis
So event horizon doesn't ring a bell?
The Schwarzschild radius is the distance from the center of the black hole to outer edge of where the Event Horizon ends.
We could keep talking about this all day but you're too busy reading my sig instead.
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Natasha Torin
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Posted - 2009.03.14 04:04:00 -
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Edited by: Natasha Torin on 14/03/2009 04:04:39
my friend once found the black monolith:
see
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Rawk Awn
Minmatar
Ek'u Tan
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Posted - 2009.03.14 06:04:00 -
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Heh heh, whether or not a black hole is visible or not depends on if it is "feeding" at the time.
If it is, which means it is gathering matter from a star, nebula, ect. at the time, then an accretion disk will be visible, as may be polar jets (read stuff by Dr. Hawking for more info).
If it isn't feeding, it's pretty much invisible. Careful observation will reveal gravitational "lensing" effects of the light from stars almost directly "behind" the black hole from any given vantage point due to the extreme curvature of space-time the singularity creates.
Gravitational "tidal" forces would likely shred anything not made of, say, neutronium, to tiny bits long before the Schwartzchild radius is reached. After all, even black holes are not perfectly uniform.
Even if you could make to the event horizon, things get really really strange then.
From your point of view, you "fall" in and bad things happen quickly.
...the thing is, due to time dilation, to those watching from a "sidereal" perspective of "normal" time, it takes almost literaly forever for you to actually reach the point to where you're...hrm, disintegrated? de-matterized?...whatever.
I'd heartily recommend Fredrick Pol's Heechee saga as an example of the above.
In a game since, well, each of the different stellar types messes up *something* it seems, so...
...move along, move along 
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Bruno Capri
Minmatar
The Scarecrows
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Posted - 2009.03.14 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III
I've never seen one before, no-one has, but I'm guessing it's a white black hole.
WSpace
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Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
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Posted - 2009.03.14 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nierna
Originally by: Kolmogorow
Originally by: Karanth
I saw something in a system earlier that wasn't quite right. I couldn't click it or anything, and when I had entered the system it had said soemthing about ship systems not working as normal or the like. I didn't think to screencap it though
Didn't notice anything different on my covops though.
A similar thing I had, a bright blue pulsating object but not warpable. I did get the same message ("ship systems won't work properly" or so) but also my shields went down by 30% or 40% immediately after jumping through the hole into the system.
that would have been a pulsar. a star that emits mater and energy from its north and south pole. the pulsating effect is becouse of its rotation wich means the pole isn;t awlays pointed at you.
Isn't it that a pulsar is a pulsar because its magnetic field axis which em radiation is emitted from is NOT identical with the pole or rotation axis? Otherwise we would never see this radiation. Unless we were exactly on the rotation axis, but then we wouldn't see a lighthouse pulse effect but a constant radiation.
Anyway, my description wasn't clear. What I saw wasn't looking like a lighthouse pulse but more like a symmetric light or particle wave emitted in all directions in the equatorial plane of the object.
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