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Be4st
CASCADE OF SPECTRES Comic Mischief
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Posted - 2012.04.28 13:44:00 -
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I know CCP is getting ALOT of bug reports/petitions about the "Flashy Red Pod" issue. One of them was mine as I thought I was the only one affected. (a corp mate never got GCC'd for popping a pod). CCP were kind enough to reply to my bug report very quickly and told me to put in a reimbursement petition to get my sec refunded.
My question is, how long will this take before sec gets refunded? I have things I can do in losec/0.0 to keep me occupied until this happens but there are some of you that were hisec carebears that are now being forced into either staying docked or going to losec/0.0 where you have no experience and are getting killed.
CCP normally gets these issues out of the way very quickly if it affects people on a mass scale. They won't have much time until it starts affecting their wallets. I have already seen countless threads on this issue with people saying "I'mma quit this f***in' game over this" but NO-ONE has asked when it will get fixed. |
Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2012.04.28 13:50:00 -
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Be4st wrote:I know CCP is getting ALOT of bug reports/petitions about the "Flashy Red Pod" issue. One of them was mine as I thought I was the only one affected. (a corp mate never got GCC'd for popping a pod). CCP were kind enough to reply to my bug report very quickly and told me to put in a reimbursement petition to get my sec refunded.
My question is, how long will this take before sec gets refunded? I have things I can do in losec/0.0 to keep me occupied until this happens but there are some of you that were hisec carebears that are now being forced into either staying docked or going to losec/0.0 where you have no experience and are getting killed.
CCP normally gets these issues out of the way very quickly if it affects people on a mass scale. They won't have much time until it starts affecting their wallets. I have already seen countless threads on this issue with people saying "I'mma quit this f***in' game over this" but NO-ONE has asked when it will get fixed.
Wait - you're bitching and moaning because you didn't read the indicator in your 'Selected Items' window indicating the sec-status of the pod pilot to be above -5.0, then clicked through the "IF YOU SHOOT THIS YOU WILL BE EXPLODED" window, and then subsequently exploded? You were an idiot and now you want to not have to pay for that mistake? Right....
As a side note, I agree the change was dumb and should be reversed. But the dumbasses who clicked through and shot the pods anyways should not receive a ship or sec status reimbursement. |
Polly Oxford
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.28 13:52:00 -
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They seriously said they will give you your sec status back? You were too stupid to read and still get this reversed, unbelievable. |
Sendo Jarix
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.28 13:53:00 -
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I too would like my sec status refunded. |
Polly Oxford
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.28 13:56:00 -
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Yeah, I also was stupid and didn't know shooting stuff after clicking ok on a warning screen would get my sec status low. Could you just put me to +10? |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
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Posted - 2012.04.28 13:57:00 -
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Adriel Malakai wrote:Wait - you're bitching and moaning because you didn't read the indicator in your 'Selected Items' window indicating the sec-status of the pod pilot to be above -5.0, then clicked through the "IF YOU SHOOT THIS YOU WILL BE EXPLODED" window, and then subsequently exploded? You were an idiot and now you want to not have to pay for that mistake? Right....
If you go back a bit further you'll see that pilots weren't getting the warning due to the time sync bug, those are the pilots waiting for their promised sec status refund. |
Roxwar
The Foreign Legion Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.04.28 14:00:00 -
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Be4st wrote:I know CCP is getting ALOT of bug reports/petitions about the "Flashy Red Pod" issue. One of them was mine as I thought I was the only one affected. (a corp mate never got GCC'd for popping a pod). CCP were kind enough to reply to my bug report very quickly and told me to put in a reimbursement petition to get my sec refunded.
My question is, how long will this take before sec gets refunded? I have things I can do in losec/0.0 to keep me occupied until this happens but there are some of you that were hisec carebears that are now being forced into either staying docked or going to losec/0.0 where you have no experience and are getting killed.
CCP normally gets these issues out of the way very quickly if it affects people on a mass scale. They won't have much time until it starts affecting their wallets. I have already seen countless threads on this issue with people saying "I'mma quit this f***in' game over this" but NO-ONE has asked when it will get fixed.
If you've heard people saying they're gonna quit this game over this, encourage them to do so, please.
You cannot be serious here? Tell me your trolling us?
You guys want your lost sec status back for clicking "yes" on the big box that says concord will wtfpwn your ass if you continue with this action? Really?
Im sure i speak on behalf of the majority of (none retaded) forum posters when i say this. G.T.F.O. http://roxwar.blogspot.com/ |
Be4st
CASCADE OF SPECTRES Comic Mischief
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Posted - 2012.04.28 14:01:00 -
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Adriel Malakai wrote:Wait - you're bitching and moaning because you didn't read the indicator in your 'Selected Items' window indicating the sec-status of the pod pilot to be above -5.0, then clicked through the "IF YOU SHOOT THIS YOU WILL BE EXPLODED" window, and then subsequently exploded? You were an idiot and now you want to not have to pay for that mistake? Right....
As a side note, I agree the change was dumb and should be reversed. But the dumbasses who clicked through and shot the pods anyways should not receive a ship or sec status reimbursement.
I received the warning once and I did not shoot that target. The second time, I just had the "You have engaged in foolish activity" notification dialogue with no CONCORD pop-up and went GCC. I did not disable any pop-up as you cannot suppress the CONCORD dialogue, so I have no idea why it never popped up the second time |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
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Posted - 2012.04.28 14:04:00 -
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Rules:
* You can freely kill a pod if the pilot is an outlaw (below -5 sec status) * You can't kill a pod if the pilot just has a GCC. If you try, you'll get the non-suppressible "Are you sure? CONCORD will wtfpwn you if you do this" dialog
This has always been the case |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.04.28 14:04:00 -
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Adriel Malakai wrote:
Wait - you're bitching and moaning because you didn't read the indicator in your 'Selected Items' window indicating the sec-status of the pod pilot to be above -5.0, then clicked through the "IF YOU SHOOT THIS YOU WILL BE EXPLODED" window, and then subsequently exploded? .
You cant fix stupid. Imo I hope they dont give them their sec status back. You were warned, you chose to ignore that warning. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
My stance on WiS (updated) |
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
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Posted - 2012.04.28 14:05:00 -
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Be4st wrote:Adriel Malakai wrote:Wait - you're bitching and moaning because you didn't read the indicator in your 'Selected Items' window indicating the sec-status of the pod pilot to be above -5.0, then clicked through the "IF YOU SHOOT THIS YOU WILL BE EXPLODED" window, and then subsequently exploded? You were an idiot and now you want to not have to pay for that mistake? Right....
As a side note, I agree the change was dumb and should be reversed. But the dumbasses who clicked through and shot the pods anyways should not receive a ship or sec status reimbursement. I received the warning once and I did not shoot that target. The second time, I just had the "You have engaged in foolish activity" notification dialogue with no CONCORD pop-up and went GCC. I did not disable any pop-up as you cannot suppress the CONCORD dialogue, so I have no idea why it never popped up the second time
Nice excuse |
Be4st
CASCADE OF SPECTRES Comic Mischief
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Posted - 2012.04.28 14:07:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Nice excuse
read:
Ruskarn Andedare wrote:If you go back a bit further you'll see that pilots weren't getting the warning due to the time sync bug, those are the pilots waiting for their promised sec status refund. |
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
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Posted - 2012.04.28 14:11:00 -
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Be4st wrote:Vaju Enki wrote:Nice excuse read: Ruskarn Andedare wrote:If you go back a bit further you'll see that pilots weren't getting the warning due to the time sync bug, those are the pilots waiting for their promised sec status refund.
read:
Vaju Enki wrote:Nice excuse |
Sirinda
Lead Farmers Academy Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2012.04.28 14:11:00 -
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Seriously, this issue was confirmed by a dev to be the result of two operations on the server not communicating the way they should.
In extension, that means those of you jerking off to the OP's plight are either trolling or illiterate, and your posts have too few typos in them for the latter to apply.
Then again, OP, if I were you, I'd think hard about whether the EO forums are the medium that will get you what you want the fastest. You're just making yourself a target here. |
Be4st
CASCADE OF SPECTRES Comic Mischief
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Posted - 2012.04.28 14:23:00 -
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Sirinda wrote:Seriously, this issue was confirmed by a dev to be the result of two operations on the server not communicating the way they should.
In extension, that means those of you jerking off to the OP's plight are either trolling or illiterate, and your posts have too few typos in them for the latter to apply.
Then again, OP, if I were you, I'd think hard about whether the EO forums are the medium that will get you what you want the fastest. You're just making yourself a target here.
I know but I have not had a reply from CCP. I even resubmitted my bug report asking this question and they replied with the same "Thank you for reporting. We are already aware of this problem" BS. Its like they never even read my update.
I like feeding the trolls. It shows me how many people cannot read let alone write properly. Maybe they should jack in EvE and go for some games they might understand. ie: www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
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Posted - 2012.04.28 14:58:00 -
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Be4st wrote: I know but I have not had a reply from CCP. I even resubmitted my bug report asking this question and they replied with the same "Thank you for reporting. We are already aware of this problem" BS. Its like they never even read my update.
I think it's going to take CCP awhile to sift through every single one of the petitions and grade who is being a lying F-head about their sec status. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Sentinel Smith
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.28 15:04:00 -
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Aside from Harassment and Immediate gameplay issues [ stuck mission ], I would expect a week+ before you get a response.. Probably longer because they are getting flooded with petitions for replacing ships/sec status because of that bug..
Just sit back, relax, and wait :) They will get to you :) |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
615
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Posted - 2012.04.28 15:15:00 -
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Sentinel Smith wrote: Just sit back, relax, and wait :) They will get to you :)
Some Frankie may assist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyl5DlrsU90 There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.28 15:25:00 -
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They won't. |
Kriegman
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.04.28 15:45:00 -
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I should apply for a refund on all my alts too. Damn pods are just so tasty, its hard to resist. |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.04.28 15:55:00 -
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Why are people even bothering to petition? Everyone knows that losing some sec is a totally ineffectual punishment and you can rat back up from -10 to +5 in an hour or two - and make billions while you do so!
(see various suicide gank threads) Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Be4st
CASCADE OF SPECTRES Comic Mischief
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Posted - 2012.04.28 17:18:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Why are people even bothering to petition? Everyone knows that losing some sec is a totally ineffectual punishment and you can rat back up from -10 to +5 in an hour or two - and make billions while you do so!
(see various suicide gank threads)
I know this and if I had actually clicked the CONCORD warning, I would have never podded those 2 guys. Hence the petitions CCP are currently getting.
And for the record, achieving a +5 from -10 in a few hours is a lie. I frequently turbo-rat and can only get from say -4 to -2 in an hour while in 0.0 killing BS rats bouncing from system to system |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
615
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Posted - 2012.04.28 17:45:00 -
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Malcanis wrote: you can rat back up from -10 to +5 in an hour or two (see various suicide gank threads)
No.
Just........no. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Sid Hudgens
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Posted - 2012.04.28 17:57:00 -
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I think a big part of the issue is that the "pilot is an outlaw" overview category is no longer accurate. It now includes pilots who are outlaws (ok to pod without concord/sec status hit), as well as pilots who are not outlaws, but have GCC (podding will get you concorded and you will take a 30% sec status hit in jita.)
You should get a popup but the situation is a little confusing now that they have changed the "pilot is an outlaw" status to include anyone with GCC. "....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
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Zora'e
Nasty Pope
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Posted - 2012.04.28 17:59:00 -
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Wait.. I was always under the impression that if the pod was red (flashy or otherwise) it was fair game... Now granted I've been gone for a while and just recently came back.... but did something change?
If so would someone be kind enough to link where this change is listed, because my initial search isn't showing me anything (and two subsequent searches show nothing as well.). In EVE Online...-á-áA Friend will calm you down when you are angry after getting Ganked.., but a Best Friend will fly along beside you commanding a Strike Group singing "Someones Gonna Get It!!!".-á ~Zora'e |
qDoctor Strangelove
Beware of the Red Fox
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Posted - 2012.04.28 18:07:00 -
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Zora'e wrote:Wait.. I was always under the impression that if the pod was red (flashy or otherwise) it was fair game... Now granted I've been gone for a while and just recently came back.... but did something change?
If so would someone be kind enough to link where this change is listed, because my initial search isn't showing me anything (and two subsequent searches show nothing as well.).
Damn it people...!!! This is something YOU SET in your OVERVIEW SETTINGS.
Please, for the love of God, do not PeeVeePee in empire if you have NO IDEA what you are doing.
1: FIX your overview. 2: Make sure you have some useful filters for your overview. 3: Turn off 'Auto Target Back' 4: Make sure your clone is upgraded. 5: Make sure you do not have you mining forman mind link in your skull. 6: Look up in the right corner of your screen... Yellow or RED timers, use brain! 7: Make bookmarks. 8: Take OFF your pants. 9: Get a bottle. (You will need to take a **** sooner or later) 10: Speak in LOCAL. That makes it all more social when you are out hunting for loot. |
Zora'e
Nasty Pope
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Posted - 2012.04.28 18:08:00 -
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Sid Hudgens wrote:I think a big part of the issue is that the "pilot is an outlaw" overview category is no longer accurate. It now includes pilots who are outlaws (ok to pod without concord/sec status hit), as well as pilots who are not outlaws, but have GCC (podding will get you concorded and you will take a 30% sec status hit in jita.)
You should get a popup but the situation is a little confusing now that they have changed the "pilot is an outlaw" status to include anyone with GCC.
Ahhh that would be the change they made. Seems like they didn't think things through (as usual) when they made this change. In EVE Online...-á-áA Friend will calm you down when you are angry after getting Ganked.., but a Best Friend will fly along beside you commanding a Strike Group singing "Someones Gonna Get It!!!".-á ~Zora'e |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
615
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Posted - 2012.04.28 18:14:00 -
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Welp, they have 5 hours and 45 minutes to do a hot fix. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd
615
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Posted - 2012.04.28 18:18:00 -
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oops There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing. |
Sid Hudgens
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Posted - 2012.04.28 19:00:00 -
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See this post.
CCP Masterplan wrote:So here's the rules: * You can freely kill a pod if the pilot is an outlaw (below -5 sec status) * You can't kill a pod if the pilot just has a GCC. If you try, you'll get the non-suppressible "Are you sure? CONCORD will wtfpwn you if you do this" dialog This has always been the case
Normally someone with GCC will show up as red. What changed with Escalation was that we removed a special case in the UI that suppressed this red if they had GCC AND were in a pod. Now someone with GCC will always show up as red, regardless of their ship. However you will stil get punished if you kill a GCC pod BUT only if you click 'Yes' to the CONCORD question.
I do agree this can be a little confusing, and we're looking at adjusting it a little based on feedback such as this.
"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
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