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Renarla
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Posted - 2009.03.18 16:54:00 -
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Not caring about salvage or any of that, not caring about AFKing missions, what ship (other than the Kronos) would be the fastest L4 mission runner? As in, the fastest to simply kill the rats and complete the mission? I'd assume the Megathron? What setup would you use for this, without T2 guns?
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yrknat
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Posted - 2009.03.18 16:55:00 -
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Sentry domi.
5-6 rails
a few omni tracking links.
couple of magstabs.
sentry drone damage rigs.
garde II's.
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Renarla
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Posted - 2009.03.18 16:57:00 -
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Hm, really? I can't use T2 sentries though. (not even close) Would it still be good?
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation Blackguard Coalition
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Posted - 2009.03.18 16:57:00 -
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Domi, and I'd use:
[Dominix, Faction] Large Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Explosive Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Shadow Serpentis 350mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L Shadow Serpentis 350mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L Shadow Serpentis 350mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L Shadow Serpentis 350mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L Shadow Serpentis 350mm Railgun, Antimatter Charge L Drone Link Augmentor I
Sentry Damage Augmentor I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
Garde II x5 Warden II x5 Ogre II x5
I personally don't run with the 2x MFS setup - I prefer CPR's.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Liang Nuren
No Salvation Blackguard Coalition
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Posted - 2009.03.18 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Renarla Hm, really? I can't use T2 sentries though. (not even close) Would it still be good?
No. T2 sentries are a "must" for sentry domis.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Renarla
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Posted - 2009.03.18 17:01:00 -
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Okay, then. If I can't use T2 sentries, what's the next best? ^^;
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation Blackguard Coalition
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Posted - 2009.03.18 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Renarla Okay, then. If I can't use T2 sentries, what's the next best? ^^;
Ok, so you can fly marauders but don't have t2 guns or t2 drones?
Is faction an option or are you just look for a best-named fit?
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Renarla
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Posted - 2009.03.18 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Renarla Okay, then. If I can't use T2 sentries, what's the next best? ^^;
Ok, so you can fly marauders but don't have t2 guns or t2 drones?
Is faction an option or are you just look for a best-named fit?
-Liang
When did I say I could fly a marauder? I said excluding Kronos, because I can't fly it. And faction is not an option, T2 or best named (best named for the guns).
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation Blackguard Coalition
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Posted - 2009.03.18 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Renarla
When did I say I could fly a marauder? I said excluding Kronos, because I can't fly it. And faction is not an option, T2 or best named (best named for the guns).
..... Ok, I suppose. :)
[Hyperion, Best-Named-Hype] Large Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
100MN Afterburner II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Stasis Webifier II Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed
350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L 350mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge L
Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Hobgoblin II x5 Ogre II x3
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
Renarla
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Posted - 2009.03.18 17:22:00 -
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Erm, cap boosters for missions? O_o
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2009.03.18 17:22:00 -
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Well a sentry domi with T1 sentries is probably still the fastest since you cant use T2 nothing BS sized.
You can try a Megathron with 425s but you at least need a basis of lvl 4 skills in gunnery.
But yeah for that purpose I much prefer a Megathron over a sentry Domi, for the simple reason that you can move around and still do all your dps, as opposed to the domi that needs to stay at 0ms or then risk losing sentries. So with a Mega you can dictate range/kite/chase much easier. Suits my style much better, to each his own.
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TimMc
Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.18 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Renarla Erm, cap boosters for missions? O_o
You did say fast. Cap booster setups mean more damage mods instead of cap mods, so quicker missions.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2009.03.18 17:26:00 -
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Liangs setup is also a good one, but imo not the best for the purpose of speed npc popage. Reason being 425s got more range, more dps at range and got better natural tracking than a Hyperion. And more drones as well, for buggers that managed to get close.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2009.03.18 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: Renarla Erm, cap boosters for missions? O_o
You did say fast. Cap booster setups mean more damage mods instead of cap mods, so quicker missions.
WTB mid slot damage mods =)
But yeah ... allows more tracking stuff and webs
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Allahs Warrior
Gallente I.M.M
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Posted - 2009.03.18 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps
WTB mid slot damage mods =)
But yeah ... allows more tracking stuff and webs
WTB booster so I dont need ANY cap mods in my low, no power diagnostic, no cap power relays, nothing.
This post that I quoted reminds me that I can probably get a lot of kills going solo around lowsec in a t1 frig.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.18 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Renarla Erm, cap boosters for missions? O_o
Injected tank setups are win tbh. Even more so on a marauder. Rats normaly cough up enough 800 charges so you almost never need to buy any. |
Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2009.03.18 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Trevor Warps on 18/03/2009 18:31:20
Originally by: Allahs Warrior
Originally by: Trevor Warps
WTB mid slot damage mods =)
But yeah ... allows more tracking stuff and webs
WTB booster so I dont need ANY cap mods in my low, no power diagnostic, no cap power relays, nothing.
This post that I quoted reminds me that I can probably get a lot of kills going solo around lowsec in a t1 frig.
Edited out ... original response ...
If only you knew ... if only ...
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vanBuskirk
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.18 19:43:00 -
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Navy Mega might be an option; the extra lowslot gives more fitting for an extra damage or tracking mod, and it's a tougher ship so less likely to have to warp out.
And use the eighth highslot! for what, depends on your skills but I favour a cruise launcher.
---------------------------------------------- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
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TimMc
Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.18 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Allahs Warrior
Originally by: Trevor Warps
WTB mid slot damage mods =)
But yeah ... allows more tracking stuff and webs
WTB booster so I dont need ANY cap mods in my low, no power diagnostic, no cap power relays, nothing.
This post that I quoted reminds me that I can probably get a lot of kills going solo around lowsec in a t1 frig.
Pretty much.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation Blackguard Coalition
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Trevor Warps Liangs setup is also a good one, but imo not the best for the purpose of speed npc popage. Reason being 425s got more range, more dps at range and got better natural tracking than a Hyperion. And more drones as well, for buggers that managed to get close.
Trevor it must have hurt you to say that. At any rate, thanks :)
I assume you meant 425's on a Mega have better natural tracking than 350's on a Hype? Ya, but you get the extra mid on the Hype for a TC. OTOH, the Mega looks waaaay better. OTOH, the Hype has more turret DPS (less drone aggro problems). OTOH, the Mega has major CPU issues. Meh, the tradeoffs go on and on really.
At any rate, I got to thinking about the fit and I think it might be a smart move to trade the second TC for a TP. I don't tend to like that though, because you tend to withhold fire until the TP is ready to light someone up. Well, I do anyway.
In the end, the discussion is moot for me, because I run a sentry domi for missions. I've been thinking of buying a hype similar to the one above though and at least trying it out now that I have semi passable skills.
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.19 02:25:00 -
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Glass Cannon mission running mega. It worked when I used it on TQ but you will get some white-knuckle moments.
[Megathron, Mission (Rail)] Large Armor Repairer II Adaptive Nano Plating II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L 425mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge L Small Tractor Beam I
Auxiliary Nano Pump I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hornet II x5 Vespa II x5 Warden I x2
The tank is pretty damn thin so it's critical to kill things in a hurry along with carefull agro control. The medium drones do a much better job of moveing around between targets than heavies. |
Erika Bronz
Gallente The Wyld Hunt
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Posted - 2009.03.19 09:39:00 -
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If you can't fly a Domi in an efficient way, you will want to team up with one for some missions. It's nice to be able to swap to light drones for those very annoying elite frigs that orbit at point blank and tracking/signature-tank everything else. Also it's drones come in very handy when damped or jammed or tracking disrupted, which you will experience a lot. Even as poorly skilled in drones, Domi will do better than the other Gallente gunships, due to the fact that it can fit 6 bonused hybrids. A Navythron will outperform the Domi in some missions, but in general the Domi is the Gallente king of missions.
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2009.03.19 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren Trevor it must have hurt you to say that. At any rate, thanks :)
I assume you meant 425's on a Mega have better natural tracking than 350's on a Hype? Ya, but you get the extra mid on the Hype for a TC. OTOH, the Mega looks waaaay better. OTOH, the Hype has more turret DPS (less drone aggro problems). OTOH, the Mega has major CPU issues. Meh, the tradeoffs go on and on really.
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In the end, the discussion is moot for me, because I run a sentry domi for missions.
/me tips hat
Yeah well that too but i was more referring to the better tracking on equal guns, as I prefer 425s for missions as opposed to alot of players. And for the dps thing, hype might have a little more, but the more far out you are shooting, the more the Mega is out dpsing the Hype, because of 425s vs 350s range.
And yeah, a Mega is always thight on the fit, cpu is a pain, but it is part of his charm.
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