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Mr M
Legion of Illuminated Social Rejects
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Posted - 2009.03.24 20:44:00 -
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whine v. whined, whin+ing, whines v.intr.
- To utter a plaintive, high-pitched, protracted sound, as in pain, fear, supplication, or complaint.
- To complain or protest in a childish fashion.
- To produce a sustained noise of relatively high pitch: jet engines whining.
v.tr. To utter with a whine.
n.
- The act of whining.
- A whining sound.
- A complaint uttered in a plaintive tone.
[Middle English whinen, from Old English hwnan, to make a whizzing sound.]
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers Reloaded
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Posted - 2009.03.24 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: clone 1
Originally by: Avon but I am better than that.
You have grown up in 4 years havnt you.
Originally by: Avon Ah bollox to it. This account and a secondary account have now been cancelled. Can't see the point in paying for the Dev's beer, they don't deserve it.
Linkage
And in fact I did indeed cancel both my accounts at that time. However, I was convinced to change my mind before either account actually expired.
Your point?
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Florio
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2009.03.24 20:49:00 -
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goons complaining of impropriety. lol.
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Mr M
Legion of Illuminated Social Rejects
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Posted - 2009.03.24 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: parthon does the name "KenZoku" upset anyone?
Me. My dad died that way
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2009.03.24 20:51:00 -
[365]
Epic Fail by CCP and their Band of Developers
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Eventy One
Magellan Exploration and Survey
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Posted - 2009.03.24 20:53:00 -
[366]
This thread is exactly like in game politics: BoB (BoBR) on one side with pets, Goon (and pets) on the other.
BoBR is say "s'ok" Goons are saying "Dev support"
Blah Blah Blah.
Doesn't anyone actually want to get past the rhetoric and know if this actually is special favour, a unique circumstance?
Simply Pro-ing and Con-ing isn't going to progress this debate. Finding out one other alliance who's been renamed is. It will show that CCP's claim of consistency is exactly that.
Otherwise, all the debate in the world is simply partisanship, and as someone above quoted, "Cabbage".
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Aetec Raa
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Posted - 2009.03.24 20:53:00 -
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The bottom line is that both BoB and Goonswarm have done some pretty amazing things within the context of the game. To be honest, both alliances have a reason to be proud of what they have done. In the case of T20, BoB has a big black eye. There really is no way around that. I realize that 90% of BoB probably had no idea what was going on with T20. He should have been both banned and fired for what he did. As far as I know, and I would welcome any proof to the contrary, Goonswarm did what they did within the mechanics of the games ruleset. If you have proof otherwise, please bring it forward.
BoBR, you guys know whether what happened allowed you to circumvent the intended ruleset regarding SOV space. If it did, do the right thing and ask CCP to reset your SOV. What good is victory if you know you cheated to get it? It's like beating off without lube. Feels good for a bit but the friction sores last for a long time. My point is that if you value the name of your alliance, don't ask CCP for a damn thing. Move forward, regroup and come back and spank the Goons within the mechanics of the game. T20 has set you guys back when it comes to hearing what you have to say. Especially when it comes to these borderline petitions. Take the challenge and make your name great again without any input from CCP. For those of us without a personal stake in this, it does look like favoritism from CCP, whether that conclusion is right or not.
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Al'Htaed
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Posted - 2009.03.24 20:53:00 -
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This will certainly not work in BoBRs favor as it fuels the blood lust of eve community even more.
The only question is, after years of abuse of a player driven "sand box" system EVE was supposed to be what will be the next thing CCP does for BOBR and interferes with the game balance in their favor.
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paracidic
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers Reloaded
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Posted - 2009.03.24 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Montasque
Originally by: Lyer If I could catch the goon tears about to flow in this thread I could end many a drought.
Yeah, goons suck, I get it. Instead of trolling can you please add some constructive criticism one way or another?
I'd love to hear the argument for how this is NOT favoritism.
The goon wants us not to troll and provide constructive criticism.
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parthon
Laughing Leprechauns Corporation Lotto Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.24 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: clone 1
Originally by: Avon but I am better than that.
You have grown up in 4 years havnt you.
Originally by: Avon Ah bollox to it. This account and a secondary account have now been cancelled. Can't see the point in paying for the Dev's beer, they don't deserve it.
Linkage
And in fact I did indeed cancel both my accounts at that time. However, I was convinced to change my mind before either account actually expired.
Your point?
you said it all in your last two lines
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Nick Curso
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers Reloaded
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Posted - 2009.03.24 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Al'Htaed This will certainly not work in BoBRs favor as it fuels the blood lust of eve community even more.
How is this not a good thing?
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Hubris
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Hubris on 24/03/2009 21:00:27 Hey everyone Avon (of bob/kenny/beavers) thinks its ok if there is a protest in jita that crashes the server over this. He stuck up for players to be able to protest in the 4S name debockle. "Avon - it was a peaceful protest" BTW the people that started the protest got banzored for crashing the server. I am not saying that we shoudld, unlike avon i am saying it would be a bad idea.
He also speaks at great lengths about the selective interpretation of rules "Avon - What I want are rules that are enforced fairly and equally. If something is not allowed, then it should be the same for everyone."
Anyway enjoy this walk down memory lane with your best bob/kenny/beaver buddy Avon.
Originally by: Avon Posted - 2005.11.09 23:37:00
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
I feel mistreated should i; A: Attempt to communicate with CCP trough diplomatic channels to convince them of their mistakes. or B: Crash the entire server, which serves no purpose other then inflicting our own grief onto others.
4S tried A. Repeatedly.
CCP then said that their name was gone and was not comming back and that option A was no longer open.
Those are the facts.
B would never have happened if CCP had looked fully in to the matter before telling the entire community that their descision would not be reversed, and that channel A was closed.
the same issue avon yet again
Originally by: Avon Posted - 2005.11.09 23:57:00
Originally by: Wrangler Ok, we need to calm down again. It's ok if you are angry about what happened, no matter what "side" you are on. But please don't start fighting each other over it. Smile
Shame on you Wrangler.
It isn't about sides, it is about truth and justice. It is about fairness and understanding. It is about doing the right thing.
he rage quits and cancels his accounts
Originally by: Avon Posted - 2005.11.10 11:22:00
I have already said my accounts have been cancelled, so why bother ranting at me?
We have seen the problems caused by selective enforcement of the EULA, and yet we also see a thread on this forum about the creation of can art. Can art and dumping shuttles are both in violation of the same clause in the EULA, and yet again we see selective enforcement.
We have seen a section of our community demonised unfairly, and now they are being treated as figures of hate. How can progress be made without compassion and forgiveness. These people have been wronged, and deserve justice. I value my principles, and I will stand by them.
"We win justice quickest by rendering justice to the other party. Mohandas Gandhi"
it seems that at one time est 2005 Avon actually was against selective enforcement of the rules........ best for last
Originally by: Avon Posted - 2005.11.10 11:49:00
Originally by: Mallikanth Of course it selective. You want everything allowed or everything banned?
I'll ignore the subtle flames and get to the real issue.
I don't want either everything banned or allowed, that isn't the issue with selective enforcement. What I want are rules that are enforced fairly and equally. If something is not allowed, then it should be the same for everyone. If something is allowed, then it should be the same for everyone.
How hard is that to understand?
This obviously isn't the Avon we all know currently or his merry band of beavers. Has to be a different alliance and person behind these rants. Please Avon do not quit the game this time in a crazy injustice fueled rage. -
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YuuLike FryLice
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:03:00 -
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Edited by: YuuLike FryLice on 24/03/2009 21:04:29
Originally by: paracidic
Originally by: Montasque
Originally by: Lyer If I could catch the goon tears about to flow in this thread I could end many a drought.
Yeah, goons suck, I get it. Instead of trolling can you please add some constructive criticism one way or another?
I'd love to hear the argument for how this is NOT favoritism.
The goon wants us not to troll and provide constructive criticism.
fair enough. but seriously though, how isn't it favoritism? it's common knowledge that unless you name yourself something offensive or patently rule-breaking or something, you aren't getting your name changed without disbanding your alliance. When Bob got disbanded, their leadership chose to put everyone under Kenzoku rather than creating a new alliance, and they should have to live with that decision or disband, just like any other alliance in the game would be forced to.
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Al'Htaed
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Curso
Originally by: Al'Htaed This will certainly not work in BoBRs favor as it fuels the blood lust of eve community even more.
How is this not a good thing?
it would be a good thing if you were Tri and didn't care about claming space. But you guys love claming space so yeah it sux.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:07:00 -
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I give a sh!t about goons crying, it is CCP's game and they can do what they want to do.
If goons dislike this game, they can quit any time and cancel their subscription. No one is forced to play a game which they dislike.
Funny thing is though that there are more devs in goonswarm than in any other alliance. Even more funny is that goons are trying to hush that up or try to downplay it. Goons talking about other alliances 'special' connection to ccp, haha.
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Kantar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers Reloaded
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:09:00 -
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Cmon Goons keep posting, I got a bet that this post gets more of 25 pages of whining.
PLS PLS PLS keep goin need that isk...............
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Nick Curso
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers Reloaded
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie I give a sh!t about goons crying, it is CCP's game and they can do what they want to do.
If goons dislike this game, they can quit any time and cancel their subscription. No one is forced to play a game which they dislike.
Funny thing is though that there are more devs in goonswarm than in any other alliance. Even more funny is that goons are trying to hush that up or try to downplay it. Goons talking about other alliances 'special' connection to ccp, haha.
I just like shooting things.
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Kuar Z'thain
Fraser's Finest
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kantar Cmon Goons keep posting, I got a bet that this post gets more of 25 pages of whining.
PLS PLS PLS keep goin need that isk...............
Does the CSM thread count?
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Othran
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:16:00 -
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I guess CCP never learn - its like watching the same crash time and time again.
I don't much care one way or another about BoB/Goons but I have more than an inkling about the history and what the hell were you thinking about CCP?
You have stuffed this totally. Again.
/me applauds unreal behaviour by GMs/devs
Quite staggeringly stupid. Really.
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Kate Stormbringer
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kate Stormbringer Edited by: Kate Stormbringer on 24/03/2009 17:11:27 Can you please explain how it is normal procedure to circumvent the usual sov mechanics and monetary issues when changing alliance name by petitioning it to the gms, perhaps by providing previous examples? As no rules had been broken by disbanding the original alliance, how can this warrant special treatment now? If this isn't now special treatment, please explain to me the procedure Pandemic Legion would have to follow to gain a name change without paying the 1 billion isk fee and loss of sovereignty. Thank you.
Quote: Hi XXXX, GM Y Z here.
Thank you for contacting customer support.
Please accept our sincere apologies for the inconvenience.
However we can't change your alliance name as we have a strict policy about it.
You can find more infos about it here https://support.eve-online.com/Pages...cle.aspx?id=37
Best regards, GM Y Z EVE Online Customer Support
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YuuLike FryLice
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie it is CCP's game and they can do what they want to do.
Well, since we now own Bob's broken-rich region, how about CCP starts spawning us ammo and interdictor BPOs?
Originally by: Gnulpie Funny thing is though that there are more devs in goonswarm than in any other alliance. Even more funny is that goons are trying to hush that up or try to downplay it. Goons talking about other alliances 'special' connection to ccp, haha.
There's more ANYONE in goonswarm than any other alliance. We're the easiest alliance in the game to infiltrate. We are also very newbie-friendly and don't have stupid rules like "no [corp] in fleets, they suck" or "no t1 cruisers".
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Quaristice
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Eventy One This thread is exactly like in game politics: BoB (BoBR) on one side with pets, Goon (and pets) on the other.
BoBR is say "s'ok" Goons are saying "Dev support"
Blah Blah Blah.
Doesn't anyone actually want to get past the rhetoric and know if this actually is special favour, a unique circumstance?
Simply Pro-ing and Con-ing isn't going to progress this debate. Finding out one other alliance who's been renamed is. It will show that CCP's claim of consistency is exactly that.
Otherwise, all the debate in the world is simply partisanship, and as someone above quoted, "Cabbage".
Har har har epic fail fail fail FAIL!!! Im neither a goon "pet" or a bob "pet" and I think the whole thing is bull****.
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Svett
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers Reloaded
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:25:00 -
[383]
[nelson] Haa haaa! [/nelson]
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NeoTech
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:27:00 -
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Now, i bought this char a few years back but i'm not really happy with its name, CCP can you please change the name of it? If you can please respond, though i'll probably petition a name change soon for good measure, after 2 months dicussing time i'd appreciate the name change because i deserve it for no apparent reason. ty.
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elohllird
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers Reloaded
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: NeoTech Now, i bought this char a few years back but i'm not really happy with its name, CCP can you please change the name of it? If you can please respond, though i'll probably petition a name change soon for good measure, after 2 months dicussing time i'd appreciate the name change because i deserve it for no apparent reason. ty.
i like your name x x x
here have a hug
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Thresh Avery
Best Path Inc. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Known Edited by: Agent Known on 24/03/2009 15:35:31 Edit: I don't believe KenZoku had sov when they first petitioned for their name back, so it wouldn't be fair to have to lose what they gained simply because the petition took so long.
This was a quote from the first page. As far as i know KenZoku were a BoB-alt alliance that existed for cap building. If that really was the case then yes, KenZoku would have had sov because i believe you either need sov 3 or sov 4 (constellation capital) to build capital ships.
Aside from that, logic would indicate KenZoku did hold sov, otherwise there would have been no strong reason for BoB to join that alliance instead of just making a new one. They traded the ability to keep sov in a few constellations for not being able to choose their own name, yet thanks to CCP they now have both.
CCP, this is a terrible mistake. Once again you've proven just how untrustworthy you are and that you obviously favour BoB. Do everyone a favour and revert the name back to KenZoku or just come out and turn Band of Brothers Reloaded into an NPC corp or faction with unconquerable stations in Delve. That way we atleast know what we're dealing with.
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Cendaliaa
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Cendaliaa on 24/03/2009 21:31:44 BoB shows maturity as always
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NeoTech
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: elohllird
Originally by: NeoTech Now, i bought this char a few years back but i'm not really happy with its name, CCP can you please change the name of it? If you can please respond, though i'll probably petition a name change soon for good measure, after 2 months dicussing time i'd appreciate the name change because i deserve it for no apparent reason. ty.
i like your name x x x
here have a hug
Thanks, btw m8, can you spare a billion? seeing as a billion isn't alot of isk and i'm kind of short on the wallet deal. I promise i won't be using it against BoBR, please send it to me and i'll post a reply telling people how awesome BoBR is. (no i'm not kidding, really, can i have a billion isk?!?!?)
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Kuar Z'thain
Fraser's Finest
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Thresh Avery ...otherwise there would have been no strong reason for BoB to join that alliance instead of just making a new one.
Goons abused game mechanics to prevent BoB from creating a new alliance.
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Phobos v2
Big Bangs Emporium Langers R'Us
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Posted - 2009.03.24 21:36:00 -
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My god can you all get over yourselves |
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