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TradingBabe
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Posted - 2009.03.27 05:33:00 -
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Are you going to continually listen to all the whiners and nerf all the diversity, all the strategy, all the fun out of eve online?
You've nerf'ed so many ships as a result, and yes some were called for like the Cruise Kestral which was just bad design, but others are just making eve dull and boring!
Azuru, was designed to work around 40km since it has a web scram range. So why did damps get nerf'd into uselessness? Mainly because they we're fitted to every ship going! They should've been ajusted so they we're only useful on the Gallente Recon ships, instead of nerf'ing them.
Then was the speed nerf, together with missile nerf's... these never really made much difference to me since I never flew them but there loss makes eve a duller place. I mean yes, all the nano ***'s were a real pita but i miss the fun of trying to catch them. Coming up with strategies while on the field was interesting, they kept people on there toes.
Now the falcon nerf is coming and tbh, I know this isn't going to make a blind bit of difference since all the wow clan will be here but it has to be said. I mean, it wasn't that long ago the falcon actually had a buff. The same kinda buff the Azuru should've had in that EW was changed so it wasn't much use on other ships, but very effective on the proper EW boats! Yet now youÆre choosing to nerf the Falcon into uselessness by making it short range, killing its jam strength.
Why not just buff (note i said buff, not nerf) the Rook so it can be used at closer range so it can be used in small roaming gangs. Keep the falcon as the long range, EW only ship which it's currently good at. Hell, even buff the Azuru so it can have a reason to use damps again!
I mean, Do you really want a game where all you do is Target and click F1, F2, F3 though... ? Do all the whiners want it? Or is eve just played by people who don't want to think and believe they should be able to insta everything they target?
At Least I never wasted training time on the Rapier.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.03.27 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: TradingBabe Azuru, was designed to work around 40km since it has a web scram range.
Dear TradingBabe,
You are a completely and utter failure. Go away.
With glowly regards, -People who have a clue
Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
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Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.03.27 06:57:00 -
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Edited by: Faife on 27/03/2009 06:57:39 i too use my Jita alt to complain about pvp. --
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Botty Spanka
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Posted - 2009.03.27 07:20:00 -
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Edited by: Botty Spanka on 27/03/2009 07:20:28 Everyone knew the Falcon was due for a nerf the moment the buff of stupidly epic proportions hit it a while back. It's just the way CCP does things. The sledgehammer approach keeps Eve in perpetual beta, gives the developers something to do, continually robs the long term player base of millions of skill points, and encourgaes them to train up something else instead of quitting from boredom.
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Grek Forto
Malevolent Intentions Dark Solar Empire
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Posted - 2009.03.27 07:31:00 -
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I'm happy the nano***s were nerfed...
Srsly..
They were pain in the behind...
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Kelshron
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Posted - 2009.03.27 07:44:00 -
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Any details about this upcoming Falcon nerf ?
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Jek Tar'qul
Gallente Ferrum Superum
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Posted - 2009.03.27 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kelshron Any details about this upcoming Falcon nerf ?
none other than its going to make you cry...alot.
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Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.27 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: TradingBabe Are you going to continually listen to all the whiners and nerf all the diversity, all the strategy, all the fun out of eve online?
You've nerf'ed so many ships as a result, and yes some were called for like the Cruise Kestral which was just bad design, but others are just making eve dull and boring!
TradingBabe, you sort of countered your own point. The nerfs are made precisely because the diversity suffers. Once almost everyone starts flying a certain type of ship, or use a certain kind of module/fitting, because it is far better than any other, diversity will drop.
You can still fly nano-ships, but not on all hulls anymore, and certainly not as effective as they were. Because before 90% of what you met were nano-ships. That killed diversity. Nerfs brought diversity back. You barking up the wrong tree.
You are someone who is mourning your favorite WTFpnwage setups, because you tend to gravitate to the FotM setups that are better (on average) than other setups. ____
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Arvald
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.03.27 10:48:00 -
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hey op, shut the hell up, its not your game you dont code it you dont manage it so just shut it, no one cares how you think the game should evolve and no one cares that your only strategy's got nerfed and your too stupid to adapt. suck it the hell up. (god damn im on on a roll tonight, is it just me or do i hear a forum ban impending >_>)
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Mashie Saldana
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2009.03.27 10:58:00 -
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I agree with you OP, boost the Azure now!
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.03.27 11:14:00 -
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And here I was thinking that I was a little too hard on the OP....
High five, my GD brethren, let us smack the noobs into oblivion!
Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
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Ervol Libra
Amarr Pinky and the Brain corp
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Posted - 2009.03.27 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Faife Edited by: Faife on 27/03/2009 06:57:39 i too use my Jita alt to complain about pvp.
hey faife o/ i'll use my indy alt to complain about pvp
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.27 11:31:00 -
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Since nano nerf the diversity in pvp has increased alot. ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.27 11:34:00 -
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Quote: yes some were called for like the Cruise Kestral which was just bad design, but others are just making eve dull and boring!
Stopped reading here as we all know what the differentiator is for the OP. -
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Armoured C
Gallente Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.27 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jek Tar'qul
Originally by: Kelshron Any details about this upcoming Falcon nerf ?
none other than its going to make you cry...alot.
oooh boy and i thought my day was going to be boring
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Armoured C
Gallente Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.27 12:50:00 -
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alsdo i think eve need to shout something
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.03.27 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Quote: yes some were called for like the Cruise Kestral which was just bad design, but others are just making eve dull and boring!
Stopped reading here as we all know what the differentiator is for the OP.
Aww, you did better then I did, I got to;
Quote: Are you going to continually listen to all the whiners and nerf all the diversity, all the strategy, all the fun...
I've decided I don't want people using melodrama to convince me of their arguments validity.
Someone above apparently said it was another Falcon whine, I salute this person for their reading diligence.
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Janya Rykayn
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Posted - 2009.03.27 13:06:00 -
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Quote: is eve just played by people who don't want to think and believe they should be able to insta everything they target?
If that were the case, and if CCP were catering to that mindset, wouldn't they tend to leave certain imba ships the way they are?
It's a MMORP. Rules change in MMORPs. If you don't like it, find some other spreadsheet to waste time in. I've heard good things about OpenOffice.
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Zaraki KenpachiSan
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Posted - 2009.03.27 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: Zaraki KenpachiSan on 27/03/2009 14:49:01
Originally by: Vaal Erit
Dear TradingBabe,
You are a complete and utter failure. Go away.
With glowly regards, -People who have a clue
Quote for life.
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TimMc
Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.27 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Grek Forto I'm happy the nano***s were nerfed...
Srsly..
They were pain in the behind...
Aye... We still get HAC gangs but at least they can be killed now. As much as I cried about my interceptor no longer going 12km/s... its alot more fun to die than be immortal.
I support CCPs move on the ECM ships, changes sound interesting.
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Icutty Lotz
The-Kissaki
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Posted - 2009.03.27 15:57:00 -
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details:ECM thread in GDF
falcon from the looks of it is gona be at about 80km to not miss any jams to falloff 150k looks to be max jam range(with jams lost to falloff)
and id give up my falcon for the sexiness they are adding to the rook
the scorp i hope they don't go though with because it destroys the ship
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia What about me with red eyes and leather?
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Nerogk Shorn
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.03.27 16:02:00 -
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Personally, though the OP is hitting all of the wrong examples, her main point is dead on. When you look at it, CCP has changed a lot so that the flavors of the races are nearly gone. Yes, they get bonuses to their weapon types, but they have continually made the weapon types more and more like eachother for the sake of balance. Many of the ships were also "balanced" and also made very similar to each other. EVE ships really are becoming more bland, and i really think that CCP needs to start thinking outside the box a little more. Most new ships can already have their bonuses guessed whether it be a tanking bonus or a damage or ROF bonus.
This is the reason why many keep screaming about how Caldari and certain Minmatar ships suck so much at PVP in comparison to the other races. It's cause the ships are generally the same, just slightly worse which in EVE makes them nearly obsolete. There are of course, some exceptions to this rule in terms of creative ships with none other like it such as the Domi and Raven. The thing is, almost all of those ships that are unique are used to a great degree, unless their uniqueness in actuality blows (eg Lachesis).
I know it's harder to balance apples and oranges, but the EVE world would be a lot more fun if there really were more types out there. Spend some serious time and energy figuring out balancing without making things more the same. It will TAKE serious time and energy as well as testing, but EVE would be better off because of it.
The Bulbasaur Wizard D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
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Sweaty Minge
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Posted - 2009.03.31 11:43:00 -
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ibtl
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Ranik Sandaris
Caldari The Centurions Eternus Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:37:00 -
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Non constructive information |
Blutomus Maximus
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: TradingBabe Are you going to continually listen to all the whiners and nerf all the diversity, all the strategy, all the fun out of eve online?
Yes.
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