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Jonnas Blane
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Posted - 2009.03.31 06:40:00 -
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I was wondering my self one evening, why does particular ship does not have bonus for particular race for which it was intended to fly with in the first place. For example, wouldn't it be cool if Caldari ships would have bonuses just for Caldari race, or Galente ship bonuses only for Galentians. I mean it's kind a stupid if u select one race and u can fly all ships without any "consequences", u selected Caldari race you would have special bonuses only if u fly Caldari ships....
Don't know if this subject was brought up before, but I think this is idea that should be considered and maybe included in some future expansions...
Fly safe, Jonnas Blane
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Dennmoth Ferdier
CINDER INDUSTRIALS
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Posted - 2009.03.31 06:48:00 -
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That would totally suck, to put it bluntly.
CCP has always favored the open-ended approach in eve.
What got me playing eve was the insane variety and the ability to be and use anything with one char. Not like in WoW when you have to make like what, 10 characters to be able to try out everything.
Why on earth would you want that kind of iron-barred system?
But fortunately, no such thing will ever be implemented, when you think about it. ------ Heart for isk, Balls for risk. |
Zaran Darkstar
Divine Slaves
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Posted - 2009.03.31 06:49:00 -
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Cause CCP doesn't want to limit players for choices they may have made early on when they were ignorant |
Dargaro Inozowa
Gallente 0REC0RE
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Posted - 2009.03.31 06:49:00 -
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That wouldn't work at all. Just because something is from Tokyo, doesn't mean it only works 150% better for Japanese citizens and 25% worse for everyone else.
Unless there was a breaking news story i missed?
Also, this just wouldn't work as so many players, that have worked years for skills to properly pilot a certain ship, would be put out in the cold. Which is basically everyone I'm sure.
Beware: Forum trolls 135km ahead. |
Altair Sovaar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.31 07:30:00 -
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Edited by: Altair Sovaar on 31/03/2009 07:30:25
Originally by: Dargaro Inozowa Just because something is from Tokyo, doesn't mean it only works 150% better for Japanese citizens and 25% worse for everyone else.
My thoughts exactly.
If some racial bonuses were ever to be introduced, this method would be bad. It *would* be possible and realistic to introduce some general bonuses, like Caldari pilots always having a small (5%) advantage in missile damage/velocity or shield amount. Then again, I don't really think it's necessary.
Different race to our chars means what different nationality means to us. Simple as that. It mainly influences our looks and the way we behave. However, in case of the latter, I don't think many people would be capable to roleplay well on this level. Oh well =)
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Joe
Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.
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Posted - 2009.03.31 07:47:00 -
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Ship bonus's and industry bonus's might not be applicable, but it should effect how you interact with Npcs.
Why would an Amarrian Agent give a Minmater pilot the time of day, let alone offer them missions, or even run Research and developement projects?
Race has only ever effected Ceo's ability to run a multicultral corp (Re: Ethnic relations skill) and its pretty much a joke.
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Jonnas Blane
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Posted - 2009.03.31 07:51:00 -
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Yeah, i could not agree more with u guy's, limitations would kill sole foundation of eve which is variety. But, u have gone in totally different direction here, point is not to limit other players, in this case other races, and they should not be limited. Idea was to "award" those players which are flying their own race ship, something like 5% missile dmg for Caldari or 5% turret dmg for Gallente.
But now that i heard what others have to say...maybe you are right, and race should not matter afterall...
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bnogo
Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.03.31 08:22:00 -
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i agree, ship racial bonuses would be bad.
an idea i toyed with though was faster training times on racial weapons/ew/ships or whatever.
most obvious would be ships. i.e. caldari pilots train caldari ships 5% faster than a gallente pilot could. and vice versa. maybe implement some sort of penalty for other races? not sure how to balance it.
in the end it would only be time that gets lost but you could still be effective in other races ships, just takes you longer to get there.
but it's not something i need. just a thought i had once.
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Telschak
Gallente Legion Of The ShiningStar
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Posted - 2009.03.31 08:24:00 -
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that would be racist
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.03.31 08:42:00 -
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Quote: I mean it's kind a stupid if u select one race and u can fly all ships without any "consequences"
No, it's kinda great.
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Dragonwell
Department of Defence
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Posted - 2009.03.31 08:43:00 -
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Edited by: Dragonwell on 31/03/2009 08:44:07
Originally by: Zaran Darkstar Cause CCP doesn't want to limit players for choices they may have made early on when they were ignorant
I felt more than a tinge of sarcasm here.
I've thought about this myself, but this runs completely against the grain of, if you want to delve into the game lore aspect, what a pod pilot is. For an OOC approach, this would be a blow to character diversity (A seemingly contradictory statement), shunting people into a certain race's ships merely because there's an extra bonus to be had. Depending on what that bonus is, I'm thinking this would radically alter the PVP landscape.
In short, not signed.
Edit: Brevity win: What Trainin said. *** Awake in a Space-Dye Vest Struggling with Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence Falling Into Infinity toward a New Millennium While trapped inside this Octavarium. |
Jonnas Blane
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Posted - 2009.03.31 08:58:00 -
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I think that the most of you would agree that some difference between the races is needed, beside the looks.
But this is sensitive subject because there is a thin line to cross between implementing variety and enforcing limitations...
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.03.31 09:05:00 -
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Edited by: TraininVain on 31/03/2009 09:10:18
Originally by: Jonnas Blane I think that the most of you would agree that some difference between the races is needed, beside the looks.
No, not really.
I mean it doesn't particularly add anything to the game other than serving to frustrate players.
When you've played for a little longer you'll see that it would be overly limiting to tie players to one set of tools when those tools are not simply equivalents to one another but often have slightly different uses.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.31 09:09:00 -
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Somebody has a racial bonus to allcaps. -
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Molock Saronen
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Posted - 2009.03.31 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Jonnas Blane Yeah, i could not agree more with u guy's, limitations would kill sole foundation of eve which is variety. But, u have gone in totally different direction here, point is not to limit other players, in this case other races, and they should not be limited. Idea was to "award" those players which are flying their own race ship, something like 5% missile dmg for Caldari or 5% turret dmg for Gallente.
But now that i heard what others have to say...maybe you are right, and race should not matter afterall...
Originally by: Jonnas Blane I think that the most of you would agree that some difference between the races is needed, beside the looks.
But this is sensitive subject because there is a thin line to cross between implementing variety and enforcing limitations...
No thanks, I'd prefer making my own choices. Because that kind of 'racial' bonuses has been tried before. And leads to less diversity one way or another. By the player's own choice, or by peer pressure. How would you like it, when you tell your corp mates your going to train Amarr and get a mail from your corp stating they would like you to stick to Caldari 'because you got 5% extra(missile) damage'? Does that still feel like an award? |
Sasu Odaie
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Posted - 2009.03.31 11:00:00 -
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This just in
Scientists have found that when a Jamaican shoots you with a MAC-10, it hits you twice as hard. Twice as hard!!
In addition, white people have been found to have a genetic proficiency for muskets. The british army have decided to adopt muskets for just this reason!
On top of these revolutionary findings, cars actually GO FASTER if you're german. The world is upside down, man!
Anyone see a rationale? Because it's pretty much the same thing. We're not elves and dwarfs, we're all humans. Teach a man to shoot a gun or drive a car and he'll have exactly the same potential results as the next guy. Same goes for EVE. And for the record, QFT: it's kinda great.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.03.31 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jonnas Blane Yeah, i could not agree more with u guy's, limitations would kill sole foundation of eve which is variety. But, u have gone in totally different direction here, point is not to limit other players, in this case other races, and they should not be limited. Idea was to "award" those players which are flying their own race ship, something like 5% missile dmg for Caldari or 5% turret dmg for Gallente.
But now that i heard what others have to say...maybe you are right, and race should not matter afterall...
That's not a reward for specialization, it's a punishment for cross-training.
The idea has been brought up many times before and struck down just as many times, often by CCP. __________________________________
Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Liberator Girl
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Posted - 2009.03.31 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Liberator Girl on 31/03/2009 11:49:26 in my opinion there should be additional bonus for each ship for its own race. not limit the bonuses only to race. leave how it is just add a bonus so that caldari pilots would fly better certain ships. for me its fair
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.03.31 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jonnas Blane I was wondering my self one evening, why does particular ship does not have bonus for particular race for which it was intended to fly with in the first place. For example, wouldn't it be cool if Caldari ships would have bonuses just for Caldari race, or Galente ship bonuses only for Galentians. I mean it's kind a stupid if u select one race and u can fly all ships without any "consequences", u selected Caldari race you would have special bonuses only if u fly Caldari ships....
Don't know if this subject was brought up before, but I think this is idea that should be considered and maybe included in some future expansions...
Fly safe, Jonnas Blane
This is not WoW! ALL chars should have the ability do do anyhting adnf ly all ships if they just train for them!
Very bad ida!
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Ripcha Headov
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.03.31 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Liberator Girl Edited by: Liberator Girl on 31/03/2009 11:49:26 in my opinion there should be additional bonus for each ship for its own race. not limit the bonuses only to race. leave how it is just add a bonus so that caldari pilots would fly better certain ships. for me its fair
So falcons have extra ECM bonus to caldari toons? that would be truely horrible.
Speaking as someone who has taken the time to cross train for every races T2 frigs and cruisers and 3/4 T2 bs's, i think its a terrible idea. If that happened i would want to get a racechange to amarr
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Catelco
Segunda Fundacion T o r m e n t u m
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:08:00 -
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This could make sense with T3 ships as they supposedly get harmonized with their pod pilot, so in this scenario an additional (and always small, around 3%) racial bonus on some racial trait may be interesting.
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Adaera
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:19:00 -
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Get out. ___________________
I for one welcome our new bee overlords |
Foulque
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:28:00 -
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/has Achura Alt
/DO NOT WANT TO BE STUCK IN CALDARI CRAP ________
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Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari Firestar Drive Yards
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jonnas Blane I was wondering my self one evening, why does particular ship does not have bonus for particular race for which it was intended to fly with in the first place. For example, wouldn't it be cool if Caldari ships would have bonuses just for Caldari race, or Galente ship bonuses only for Galentians. I mean it's kind a stupid if u select one race and u can fly all ships without any "consequences", u selected Caldari race you would have special bonuses only if u fly Caldari ships....
Don't know if this subject was brought up before, but I think this is idea that should be considered and maybe included in some future expansions...
Fly safe, Jonnas Blane
Ini the same way I get a bonus for wearing my white guy pants, and my best friend gets a bonus for his chinese guy haircut and my other half gets a bonus for jamaican and english shoes (being of mixed parentage)? :(
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Catelco
Segunda Fundacion T o r m e n t u m
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ryoji Tanakama
Ini the same way I get a bonus for wearing my white guy pants, and my best friend gets a bonus for his chinese guy haircut and my other half gets a bonus for jamaican and english shoes (being of mixed parentage)? :(
No. In the same way that a student at M.I.T. would probably had a better salary than someone that studied at a bad university.
If you want RP reasons, just say that best amarr flying schools are in amarr empire, so pilots trained there will fly amarr ships a little better.
Sorry I just reported this message instead of replying it
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Davination
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.31 12:57:00 -
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so... would Germans get a bonus to top speed when driving BMW's, and Italian's a bonus to agility when driving a Lamborghini?
:)
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Warrio
Southern Cross Incorporated Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.03.31 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: Warrio on 31/03/2009 14:09:12 Terrible idea.
However, some racism in terms of loyalty point gains for factions would be nice to see though the RP sort of eliminates this too since pod pilots are meant to be a class of their own, far above race. |
EFT Warrior
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Posted - 2009.03.31 14:34:00 -
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Capsuleers are freelancers, who may experience prejudice from other races, but they are a rare breed in EVE, as out of the (probably hundreds of) billions of people in New Eden there are only a few hundred thousand pod pilots, and are elevated to demi-gods in the eyes of everyone else.
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Pearre Dash
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Posted - 2009.03.31 14:47:00 -
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this is the worst thread ever
if you do not inherently realize just what a terrible idea this is you should just get out
gas
ban
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.31 14:58:00 -
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