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Zyck
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.03.31 14:53:00 -
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No, seriously.
Highlights:
WASHINGTON - After more than a decade of work and $3.5 billion, engineers have completed the world's most powerful laser, capable of simulating the energy force of a hydrogen bomb and the sun itself.
The federal Energy Department will announce Tuesday that it has officially certified the National Ignition Facility at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, clearing the way for a series of experiments over the next year that eventually is hoped will mimic the heat and pressure found at the center of the sun.
The facility, the size of a football field, comprises 192 separate laser beams, each traveling 1,000 feet in one-thousandth of a second to converge simultaneously on a target the size of a pencil eraser.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2009.03.31 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 31/03/2009 15:06:40
Originally by: Zyck ...will mimic the heat and pressure found at the center of the sun.
Kinda curious how a laser is supposed to re-create the pressure at the center of the sun.
I know radiation can exert pressure but it is pretty freaking weak compared to a lot of other things.
An example:
Originally by: Wiki Radiation pressure is about 10^-5 Pa at Earth's distance from the Sun[3] and decreases by the square of the distance from the Sun.
For example, at the boiling point of water (T = 373.15 K), the pressure only amounts to 3 micropascals (about 2 pounds force per square mile).
SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure
-------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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MyOwnSling
Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.31 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 31/03/2009 15:06:40
Originally by: Zyck ...will mimic the heat and pressure found at the center of the sun.
Kinda curious how a laser is supposed to re-create the pressure at the center of the sun.
I know radiation can exert pressure but it is pretty freaking weak compared to a lot of other things.
An example:
Originally by: Wiki Radiation pressure is about 10^-5 Pa at Earth's distance from the Sun[3] and decreases by the square of the distance from the Sun.
For example, at the boiling point of water (T = 373.15 K), the pressure only amounts to 3 micropascals (about 2 pounds force per square mile).
SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure
It's the heat. Heat a gas and keep extremely well contained and the pressure inside the containment "chamber" will increase. This is my best guess. A laser like that would be able to generate a lot of heat in its target. -------------
Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face...
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2009.03.31 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: MyOwnSling It's the heat. Heat a gas and keep extremely well contained and the pressure inside the containment "chamber" will increase. This is my best guess. A laser like that would be able to generate a lot of heat in its target.
Huh...well that should make a satisfying boom!
The pressure at the center of the sun is something like 1 million tons per square centimeter. Don't think anything earthly will contain that! -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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MyOwnSling
Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.31 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: MyOwnSling It's the heat. Heat a gas and keep extremely well contained and the pressure inside the containment "chamber" will increase. This is my best guess. A laser like that would be able to generate a lot of heat in its target.
Huh...well that should make a satisfying boom!
The pressure at the center of the sun is something like 1 million tons per square centimeter. Don't think anything earthly will contain that!
Perhaps not. But, I suppose they could create a gigantic housing for like a cubic mm worth of gas and see what happens. One way or another, I look forward to the results. -------------
Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face...
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.31 15:29:00 -
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Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 31/03/2009 15:30:41
Originally by: Zyck
The facility, the size of a football field, comprises 192 separate laser beams, each traveling 1,000 feet in one-thousandth of a second to converge simultaneously on a target the size of a pencil eraser.
ok so once initial test have been performed we'll re-angle the laser skyward and place it in a giant dish that is visible from space and then the station will be fully operational.
/runs off to grab his black robe
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.03.31 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Terianna Eri on 31/03/2009 16:26:51 AMERICA, **** YEAH
Edit to be less dumb :P
This is pretty cool, seeing as the long-term goal is, i guess, a sustainable fusion reactor. And that would be awesome. __________________________________
Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.31 16:44:00 -
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Meh, it cant 'potentially create a black hole' like the LHC.Not impressed. Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.31 16:46:00 -
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Also, I have seen this
before
Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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Moejdal
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Posted - 2009.03.31 17:08:00 -
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No? |
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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Culmen
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:03:00 -
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Ok so the US has a Giga Pulse Laser... where did they park their Revelation?
and further more why do i even need a sig? |
Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Haraldhardrade Meh, it cant 'potentially create a black hole' like the LHC.Not impressed.
Actually the test run created a parallel universe in which we are now living.
This universe has more bree.
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Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Zetsubou Corp
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor This universe has more bree.
And about time too! ____________________
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Drakoulia
Caldari The Night Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.31 19:05:00 -
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They shootin' mah spaceships!
But seriously, what would it do to 'stuff' if aimed up? ---
Originally by: The Mittani Don't touch that! Don't open the refrigerator! The spy is in the refrigerator!
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Zyck
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.03.31 19:09:00 -
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I'd imagine at that temperature it would probably vaporize anything organic.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.03.31 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Haraldhardrade Meh, it cant 'potentially create a black hole' like the LHC.Not impressed.
Well, it allegedly could compress hydrogen to over 1 million atmospheres, allegedly rendering it metallic (as opposed to "just liquid"), so... you never know. Black hole, maybe not... but neutronium, heh, would be cool _ Create a character || Fit a ship || Get some ISK |
Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2009.03.31 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zyck I'd imagine at that temperature it would probably vaporize anything organic.
It will vaporize anything...organic or otherwise. If it delivers temps on the order of the core of the sun we are talking temperatures in excess of 15,000,000¦ C (27,000,000¦ F). There is no solid matter I am aware of that can withstand that (except perhaps Unobtainium). Whatever that laser touches will have a hole punched through it right quick.
-------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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Lawl Clistina
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Posted - 2009.03.31 19:44:00 -
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Edited by: Lawl Clistina on 31/03/2009 19:44:31 what a waste of money |
Taedrin
Gallente Golden Mechanization Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.03.31 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lawl Clistina Edited by: Lawl Clistina on 31/03/2009 19:44:31 what a waste of money
According to the article, they are using such technologies to guarantee that their nuclear weapons will work without having to resort to nuclear testing (something which the USA has agreed not to do in compliance with certain international treaties.)
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Elora Danzik
Caldari Idiots In Spaceships
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Posted - 2009.03.31 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Huh...well that should make a satisfying boom!
The pressure at the center of the sun is something like 1 million tons per square centimeter. Don't think anything earthly will contain that!
Where's the Kaboom. There was suppose to be an Earth shatteriing Kaboom.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.03.31 21:41:00 -
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Quote: more than a decade of work
I love how they can hide this stuff for so long.
starts searching for youtube videos by crazy people who were bloging about it 5 years ago :P
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Joseph 9
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.31 21:42:00 -
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With regards to containment. The target will be sat in this thing, which will almost certainly be sat inside some form of concrete containment chamber. The x-ray flash when the lasers hit a target will be pretty potent. I wouldn't be surprised if they produce a small amount of radioactive material in the thing.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.31 21:42:00 -
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The US is turning the moon into what I like to call a "Death Star"
Pomp FTW!!! |
Jago Kain
Amarr Ramm's RDI
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Posted - 2009.03.31 22:06:00 -
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(all together now)
That's no moon!!!
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.31 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 31/03/2009 15:30:41
Originally by: Zyck
The facility, the size of a football field, comprises 192 separate laser beams, each traveling 1,000 feet in one-thousandth of a second to converge simultaneously on a target the size of a pencil eraser.
ok so once initial test have been performed we'll re-angle the laser skyward and place it in a giant dish that is visible from space and then the station will be fully operational.
/runs off to grab his black robe
GO TO HELL MOON!
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Suction Aspiration
Band of Devs Reloaded
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Posted - 2009.04.01 02:51:00 -
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Did not read thread. But, this is geneous, lets simulate the Sun on Earth. Burn us up, wtf?
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Super Whopper
I can Has Cheeseburger
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Posted - 2009.04.01 03:52:00 -
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Finally we have developed a weapon against those Jovians!!
WE ARE COMING FOR YOU!
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Gabrialle
Amarr Sanctuary Logistical Industries Inc
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Posted - 2009.04.01 09:15:00 -
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gee so its either kill the universe/create blackhole with the LHC or burn us all crispy with lasers that make suns on Earth...choices choices...
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Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.01 11:40:00 -
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Gotta be an april thing. To begin with, the sun is an enigma and even scientists are not sure what makes it as hot as it is since it's hotter than our calculations can account for. Secondly, as someone already posted, even the gov't can't keep something like this a secret for very long and for 10 years, I doubt it.
Oh yes, the Gank Geddon is parked on the dark side of the moon where they've been working on it for seven years.
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