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Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.05.02 20:57:00 -
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Farewell, mighty Drake. You served the Caldari Empire well for 9 long years. You were a valued asset and a sturdy steed to many hundreds of thousands of Capsuleers. Soon I fear you will become the official property of a select group of null sec neckbeards. A fate you didn't earn but the mighty nerf bat is hungry and your number came up.
I will keep the copies I have in memory of the once great Drake. You will be missed. |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
156
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Posted - 2012.05.02 20:58:00 -
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I will miss it too, but then I will gladly jump into a new one instead for more awesome pew pew! |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
149
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Posted - 2012.05.02 20:58:00 -
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? On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton where the dripping patchouli was more than scent, It was a sun-á |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
328
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:00:00 -
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Just someone complaining about change before it has even happened. |
Judas II
7th Space Cavalry
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:06:00 -
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Skydell wrote:Farewell, mighty Drake. You served the Caldari Empire well for 9 long years. You were a valued asset and a sturdy steed to many hundreds of thousands of Capsuleers. Soon I fear you will become the official property of a select group of null sec neckbeards. A fate you didn't earn but the mighty nerf bat is hungry and your number came up.
I will keep the copies I have in memory of the once great Drake. You will be missed.
Somewhat less than 9 years. Tier 2 BC's got introduced in 2006. But in any case; about freaking time the Drake gets a tweak. |
Stetson Eagle
ROC Academy The ROC
18
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:21:00 -
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Let's say the tweak is something unimaginative like 5% resistances -> 7,5% damage, with kinetic damage bonus removed. A t2 HAM drake with rage and 4 bcu's would be pushing 670dps. 10% damage bonus would result in 750dps.
That being at 17km the second alternative doesn't look too bad, although the first seems more likely, hopefully with a missile speed bonus. PVE wise we'd have a decent belt ratter in either case, PVP wise a higher DPS nanodrake sounds interesting especially in a frigate ganking setup. |
Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
353
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:26:00 -
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OP isn't one about facts. That much is clear.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:27:00 -
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Judas II wrote:Skydell wrote:Farewell, mighty Drake. You served the Caldari Empire well for 9 long years. You were a valued asset and a sturdy steed to many hundreds of thousands of Capsuleers. Soon I fear you will become the official property of a select group of null sec neckbeards. A fate you didn't earn but the mighty nerf bat is hungry and your number came up.
I will keep the copies I have in memory of the once great Drake. You will be missed. Somewhat less than 9 years. Tier 2 BC's got introduced in 2006. But in any case; about freaking time the Drake gets a tweak. Oh...because the other 4 "tweaks" it has gotten didn't count? EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Micheal Dietrich
Standards and Practices
379
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:29:00 -
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It's a damn shame that it's DPS is going to come in line with the other BC's. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:34:00 -
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The Drake's change only actually makes me more likely to fly it, TBH. This is coming from someone who has hated Drakes from day one. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
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Judas II
7th Space Cavalry
3
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:35:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Judas II wrote:Skydell wrote:Farewell, mighty Drake. You served the Caldari Empire well for 9 long years. You were a valued asset and a sturdy steed to many hundreds of thousands of Capsuleers. Soon I fear you will become the official property of a select group of null sec neckbeards. A fate you didn't earn but the mighty nerf bat is hungry and your number came up.
I will keep the copies I have in memory of the once great Drake. You will be missed. Somewhat less than 9 years. Tier 2 BC's got introduced in 2006. But in any case; about freaking time the Drake gets a tweak. Oh...because the other 4 "tweaks" it has gotten didn't count?
I did not say the Drake hasn't got tweaked before. I'm just saying it needs a(nother) tweak at this point of time. |
Armoured C
PLAYBOYS
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:37:00 -
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everyone should know that amarr is the way
any may the heavens open the way to lazers and all that they consume :D |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
117
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:38:00 -
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Unfortunatly this is typical CCP.
"We broke Moon-goo over a year ago, made it possible for large alliances to have no-risk pvp in big ships. So lets nerf the Drake!"
Seriously, there are so many things that need fixing, and instead they choose to focus on the poor man's BC....
By the time they get around to doing something about moon-goo, it won't matter. 10 trillion isk can keep you in operation for a long time....
In before the "u mad". No I don't fly drakes, could really care less.
But CCP once again seems to have lost focus on what's important in the game....
Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
45
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:41:00 -
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Yeah, about time all those Drake battlecruisers used in fleets got some loving attention.
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Oh, sorry, thought you said TORNADO |
Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:41:00 -
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Armoured C wrote:everyone should know that amarr is the way
any may the heavens open the way to lazers and all that they consume :D
I agree with that but I expect Damnation to be on the chopping block soon enough. Yet another glass canon in EVE because we all know EVE needs more glass canons. |
Pertuabo Enkidgan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:54:00 -
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What's going on? Did I miss something? |
Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
46
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:58:00 -
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Pertuabo Enkidgan wrote:What's going on? Did I miss something? No.
We're trying to troll CCP into nerfing the Drake. This way they'll keep their sights off the projectile weapons.
Win - Win
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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
53
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Posted - 2012.05.02 22:00:00 -
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Skydell wrote:Farewell, mighty Drake. You served the Caldari Empire well for 9 long years. You were a valued asset and a sturdy steed to many hundreds of thousands of Capsuleers. Soon I fear you will become the official property of a select group of null sec neckbeards. A fate you didn't earn but the mighty nerf bat is hungry and your number came up.
I will keep the copies I have in memory of the once great Drake. You will be missed.
Wasn't around for nine years ??
Tal
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xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
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Posted - 2012.05.02 22:33:00 -
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Skydell wrote: mighty Drake.
your post broke at this point.
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
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Posted - 2012.05.02 22:42:00 -
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Skydell wrote:Farewell, mighty Drake. You served the Caldari Empire well for 9 long years. You were a valued asset and a sturdy steed to many hundreds of thousands of Capsuleers. Soon I fear you will become the official property of a select group of null sec neckbeards. A fate you didn't earn but the mighty nerf bat is hungry and your number came up.
I will keep the copies I have in memory of the once great Drake. You will be missed.
I, too, irrationally fear change. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
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Posted - 2012.05.02 22:44:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Unfortunatly this is typical CCP. "We broke Moon-goo over a year ago, made it possible for large alliances to have no-risk pvp in big ships. So lets nerf the Drake!" Seriously, there are so many things that need fixing, and instead they choose to focus on the poor man's BC.... By the time they get around to doing something about moon-goo, it won't matter. 10 trillion isk can keep you in operation for a long time.... In before the "u mad". No I don't fly drakes, could really care less. But CCP once again seems to have lost focus on what's important in the game....
You are not what is important to the game. Developing an actual system to replace moongoo is what is important to the game. Having something that actually works instead of just slapping together whatever the community is demanding at that moment. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
149
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Posted - 2012.05.02 23:51:00 -
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Pohbis wrote:Pertuabo Enkidgan wrote:What's going on? Did I miss something? No. We're trying to troll CCP into nerfing the Drake. This way they'll keep their sights off the projectile weapons. Win - Win
CCp don't seem to have a grudge with dps. They seem to have a grudge with tank. EVE holy twinity
- Go fast - Die fast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg-_HeVNYOk
Save Derpy! |
Nephilius
Knights of Athena Star Council
381
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Posted - 2012.05.03 00:01:00 -
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Quote:Quote:"I want to keep my easy mode ship that requires no thought nor talent to fly!"
Drake sucks. People fly it because it's made for stupid people. Anyone defending it is revealing their intelligence. Congratulations, you win the Shallow End of the Eve Pool Award for this thread! Good job, way to be simple minded! :) Let me break this down as best as I can for the thread at large... COMMUNITY: Fix Incursions, FW, Assault frigates and Botting! CCP: Ok, I see, I see. Oh, I know, let's nerf the Drake! SHALLOW THINKERS: Nerf the Drake? Brilliant! Hurray CCP! DEEP THINKERS: Nerf the...wait, wha? CCP: Aren't you happy now? DEEP THINKERS: How does that solve the real problems plaguing this game? CCP: Lookee here! *holds up wand with spinning wheels and bright lights* This is the visual representation of the Drake nerf! Isn't it awesome? SHALLOW THINKERS: *mesmerized* Wow, it's better than I ever imagined... DEEP THINKERS: Wait, no! How can this be a solution? We have bigger issues to worry about here than one ship! SHALLOW THINKERS: Shut-up! Your dumb because you are opposing the nerf! You must be ridiculed and silenced! DEEP THINKERS: It's spelled 'you're' with an apostrophe and an E at the end! We still want to know how this addresses problems that truly need to be fixed. SHALLOW THINKERS: Shut-up noob! L2p! DEEP THINKERS: Surely you aren't buying this... SHALLOW THINKERS: DEATH TO DRAKES! DEEP THINKERS: *fingers pinching the bridge of their noses* You have got to be kidding me, you really don't get it do you? SHALLOW THINKERS: Umad bro? Lulz! CCP: We knew you guys would approve! =) I think that just about sums it up.
I just had to post this again... To call me a Carebear is a misnomer...while it is true that I am hairy like a bear (or two russian women), I really don't care.-á Like, at all.-á Call me an Apathybear.-á Just don't call if you need assistance. |
xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
64
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Posted - 2012.05.03 00:04:00 -
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Nephilius wrote:Quote:Quote:"I want to keep my easy mode ship that requires no thought nor talent to fly!"
Drake sucks. People fly it because it's made for stupid people. Anyone defending it is revealing their intelligence. Congratulations, you win the Shallow End of the Eve Pool Award for this thread! Good job, way to be simple minded! :) Let me break this down as best as I can for the thread at large... COMMUNITY: Fix Incursions, FW, Assault frigates and Botting! CCP: Ok, I see, I see. Oh, I know, let's nerf the Drake! SHALLOW THINKERS: Nerf the Drake? Brilliant! Hurray CCP! DEEP THINKERS: Nerf the...wait, wha? CCP: Aren't you happy now? DEEP THINKERS: How does that solve the real problems plaguing this game? CCP: Lookee here! *holds up wand with spinning wheels and bright lights* This is the visual representation of the Drake nerf! Isn't it awesome? SHALLOW THINKERS: *mesmerized* Wow, it's better than I ever imagined... DEEP THINKERS: Wait, no! How can this be a solution? We have bigger issues to worry about here than one ship! SHALLOW THINKERS: Shut-up! Your dumb because you are opposing the nerf! You must be ridiculed and silenced! DEEP THINKERS: It's spelled 'you're' with an apostrophe and an E at the end! We still want to know how this addresses problems that truly need to be fixed. SHALLOW THINKERS: Shut-up noob! L2p! DEEP THINKERS: Surely you aren't buying this... SHALLOW THINKERS: DEATH TO DRAKES! DEEP THINKERS: *fingers pinching the bridge of their noses* You have got to be kidding me, you really don't get it do you? SHALLOW THINKERS: Umad bro? Lulz! CCP: We knew you guys would approve! =) I think that just about sums it up. I just had to post this again...
it deserved to be posted again. rare do you see truth in a post so clearly. |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
120
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Posted - 2012.05.03 00:41:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Beekeeper Bob wrote:Unfortunatly this is typical CCP. "We broke Moon-goo over a year ago, made it possible for large alliances to have no-risk pvp in big ships. So lets nerf the Drake!" Seriously, there are so many things that need fixing, and instead they choose to focus on the poor man's BC.... By the time they get around to doing something about moon-goo, it won't matter. 10 trillion isk can keep you in operation for a long time.... In before the "u mad". No I don't fly drakes, could really care less. But CCP once again seems to have lost focus on what's important in the game.... You are not what is important to the game. Developing an actual system to replace moongoo is what is important to the game. Having something that actually works instead of just slapping together whatever the community is demanding at that moment.
I'm sorry you don't understand the issue. Let me clarify.
CCP redid moon-goo balance awhile back, in order to balance things out. It appears now that was the sloppiest, worst planned balance in the history of the game. Yet here we are almost two years later, CCP has made a mockery of PVP in 0.0 with no risk PvP for a few big alliances. You think maybe they should have addressed it long before now? It's not moon-goo itself, it's the concentration of isk in just one set of moons that has created this joke.
So instead of addressing the real imbalance, they attack one of the side-effects. Supercaps. Supercaps were never overpowered. The issue was the number of them being built because CCP put so much isk into some people's pockets they had nothing else to spend it on. What they should have done is immediately address the problem that they created, rather than put a bandaid on it.
So how much time should they need to fix such a serious, game-breaking issue?
Looking to stamp out apiphobia in my lifetime..... |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1429
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Posted - 2012.05.03 01:21:00 -
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Ioci wrote:Pohbis wrote:Pertuabo Enkidgan wrote:What's going on? Did I miss something? No. We're trying to troll CCP into nerfing the Drake. This way they'll keep their sights off the projectile weapons. Win - Win CCp don't seem to have a grudge with dps. They seem to have a grudge with tank. EVE holy twinity - Go fast - Die fast
I wonder about this.
A really interesting way to fly is to have to use movement as part of your tactics. A lot of tanking is just sitting there. I have ships that heavily rely on moving and maintaining the ability to keep moving. Yet I have seen other mission runners and it appears that it's all about how much damage you can take just sitting there.
Kind of silly. And boring. |
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
390
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Posted - 2012.05.03 01:30:00 -
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I do not understand why this upsets people. The only people this should upset at all are wormhole drakers. With a tank nerf and a DPS boost, the Drake will be better for every role it has, including missions, ratting, and PvP, while being slightly worse at tanking wormholes.
Why do you want it to have super tank! Ferox #1 |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
549
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Posted - 2012.05.03 02:03:00 -
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tank nerf, PVPDPS buff, honestly my only problem is it hurts new players but its kinda needed. |
Bane Necran
424
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Posted - 2012.05.03 02:04:00 -
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Good Riddance. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
157
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Posted - 2012.05.03 02:14:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:tank nerf, PVPDPS buff, honestly my only problem is it hurts new players but its kinda needed.
I don't think so. New players won't know the old drake, and by jove, they will actually learn some sort of actual combat tactic. |
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