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Dorian 'Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.05 17:35:00 -
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A bit odd eh ? Well my friend convinced me to to purchase one, well two really one for each of my kids. I have not got one for me the wife and baby yet but you can't be too safe can you ? Anyway after buying the masks I delved a little futher into the subject area on the internet and I must say I was amazed at what you can buy, things like NBC suits, radiation monitors, radios that you can wind up no battery needed, gas masks and a plethora of other stuff. This is the site I visited but there are all sorts of other sites. I would like to know if anyone else has any erm 'survival' gear at home and what do you have ? Oh does anyone have a nuclear bunker in there back yard ?
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.05 17:46:00 -
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I do.
Some people shop at Old Navy, I shop at the Army/Navy.
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Thorliaron
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.04.05 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: Thorliaron on 05/04/2009 17:59:36
i have a helmet and body armor i never gave back, they aint asked for it back yet either
when the russians come i'll be ready, at work or at home!
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dr doooo
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Posted - 2009.04.05 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Dorian 'Gray A bit odd eh ? Well my friend convinced me to to purchase one, well two really one for each of my kids. I have not got one for me the wife and baby yet but you can't be too safe can you ? Anyway after buying the masks I delved a little futher into the subject area on the internet and I must say I was amazed at what you can buy, things like NBC suits, radiation monitors, radios that you can wind up no battery needed, gas masks and a plethora of other stuff. This is the site I visited but there are all sorts of other sites. I would like to know if anyone else has any erm 'survival' gear at home and what do you have ? Oh does anyone have a nuclear bunker in there back yard ?
I'm curious to know what country/area you live in, what motivated you to buy them, and are you thinking of getting more stuff?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.04.05 18:06:00 -
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Whoa, are we back in the '60s already ?
I think I still have a gas mask in the garage, but I doubt it's still working... it's probably 30 years old _ The problem with EVE || Fit a ship || Get some ISK |
kor anon
Amarr Seerauber-Vereinigung
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Posted - 2009.04.05 18:22:00 -
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I have a couple military issue gas masks. Restrictive, heavy, and make you sweat like a pig. I cant imagine wearing one for an extended period of time.
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Dorian 'Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.05 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: dr doooo
I'm curious to know what country/area you live in, what motivated you to buy them, and are you thinking of getting more stuff?
I live in the U.K. as to what motivated me well the current financial instability certainly played a part and the fact that goverment sources have actually said that there will be a terrorist attack of some kind that we can't prevent (although I think this is just a ruse to get the indentity card thing up and running) but I also think man made accidents or even natural disasters could cause potenial problems.
Will I buy more stuff? Well I think I probably will, I mean it can't hurt to be prepared right ? As long as I dont become a total nut job and start spending a disproportionate amount of my imcome/time on these things and/or get obsessive then I'll be O.K. I mean in the unlikely event that there is a nuclear chemical or biological attack chances are I wont be at home anyway !!
I must add though if money where no object I would have a nice big house with plenty of land and a nuclear bunker in which I would play EVE it would be my man shed.
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Dorian 'Gray
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.05 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Dorian ''Gray on 05/04/2009 18:54:00 Double post, forums fault
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dr doooo
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Posted - 2009.04.05 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Dorian 'Gray
Originally by: dr doooo
I'm curious to know what country/area you live in, what motivated you to buy them, and are you thinking of getting more stuff?
I live in the U.K. as to what motivated me well the current financial instability certainly played a part and the fact that goverment sources have actually said that there will be a terrorist attack of some kind that we can't prevent (although I think this is just a ruse to get the indentity card thing up and running) but I also think man made accidents or even natural disasters could cause potenial problems.
I'm surprised that they are still doing their thing, where they make an announcement about some kind of new terrorist threat, one or two days before some new 'anti-terrorist' law hits the media. You would think they would be ashamed to still be pulling this stunt, now that it is so well known and transparent.
Originally by: Dorian 'Gray Will I buy more stuff? Well I think I probably will, I mean it can't hurt to be prepared right ? As long as I dont become a total nut job and start spending a disproportionate amount of my imcome/time on these things and/or get obsessive then I'll be O.K. I mean in the unlikely event that there is a nuclear chemical or biological attack chances are I wont be at home anyway !!
I must add though if money where no object I would have a nice big house with plenty of land and a nuclear bunker in which I would play EVE it would be my man shed.
Didn't the MOD sell off some old cold-war nuclear bunkers a few years ago? It would be kinda cool to have one in your back garden, and you never know, may come in handy one day.
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Crimsonjade
Amarr Secret Service
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Posted - 2009.04.05 19:32:00 -
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with Global terrorism on the rise and it can affect anyone anywhere, being prepared seems like a wise idea. the Army was nice enough to teach me to plan ahead and be prepared.
have a tornado shelter built into my house that i guess could be a bunker, but tbh radiation permeates everything. so unless you are completely self sustaining its a tad overkill for any type of bunker
do have a 2kw backup generator runs on natural gas and have couple solar panels i want to install so i can cut my carbon footprint a little.
do have a NBC suit but been using it when i paint a car or anything else :)
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Nuala Reece
Caldari Starlancers SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE
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Posted - 2009.04.05 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: dr doooo
I'm surprised that they are still doing their thing, where they make an announcement about some kind of new terrorist threat, one or two days before some new 'anti-terrorist' law hits the media. You would think they would be ashamed to still be pulling this stunt, now that it is so well known and transparent.
Indeed - the most recent announcement of the perfectly obvious (that no amount of security can indefinitely prevent determined people from making some sort of attack - 20 odd years of domestic terrorism in Ireland already showed us that many times over) came in the last week; some people have suggested that the most recent announcements may have had more to do with trying to scare protesters away from the G20 summit than having any kind of actual immediate value to the general public. Certainly there's a big difference between saying 'we know there'll be an attack in the next week, based on reliable evidence' and saying 'there's likely to be some kind of attack, at some point, somewhere in the country'.
That difference, incidentally, is the same difference between saying 'the new Harry Potter book will be published and on sale next Tuesday' and 'we've got a room full of chimps and as many typewriters as they need and we know, given enough time, they'll have the new Harry Potter book finished and ready to ship'. One of those statements will have people queing outisde Waterstones next week, while the other will only result in a better piece of literature
I have to say I think you're being over cautious Dorian. Considering a biological attack would be much more likely to be covert, it could be days before anyone even knew a hazardous substance was out making gasmasks pretty pointless unless you plan for your kids to wear them all the time they're outdoors (this, incidentally, would significantly increase the chances of them suffocating to death). And for a so-called 'dirty bomb' if you're close enough to be seriously affected you'd probably be at more risk from the conventional explosive than the radioactive material. Gas mask pretty pointless in that case too.
Fear, as Frank Herbert wrote, is the mind killer
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.05 20:48:00 -
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There is actually a number of supplies I keep in my vehicle simply because of the amount of mountainous driving I do.
On one side of the box I have 2 small utility army shovels (shovel/pic adjustment + basic survival kit in the handle), several feet of rope, a machete, a fishing kit including lures/bobbins/hooks, and 2 gallons of fresh water.
On the driver side of the box I have several extra clothes including warmer jackets, a folded up 4x6 tarp, and a comforter blanket. I also keep 2 high powered flashlights back there (one has a fold out basic tool kit), my towline, my jumper cables, and my box containing my tie downs.
In the netting behind the box I have multiple gloves and cold weather mask/head gear, a first aid kit, and several military food kits. A very basic bow and several arrows sit on my gun rack and a roadside repair kit sits on the box itself.
In the center console I have 50ft of twine, a compass, a multipurpose knife, and a hobo kit (camping silverware). There's also a bottle of aspirin but that was from my drinking days.
Now at home I've got several weeks of canned food saved up but its more for the times where I may get snowed in for several days at a time. What I would like some day is a generator in the garage because my town only has one set of powerlines coming into town and if they go down then we're all out of power for a while. I've got many ways to heat the house without electricity but that doesn't stop food from thawing out in a powerless fridge.
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Omaku Toba
Minmatar Tribal Core
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Posted - 2009.04.05 20:57:00 -
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Used to have one from my brothers time in the Navy but not seen it for a while. I don't live in London which seems to be the favourite muslim target and the IRA didn't seem to be that into chemical attacks so I'm probably good without one in the North West. ...
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.04.05 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 05/04/2009 21:31:54
Originally by: Omaku Toba London which seems to be the favourite muslim target
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Originally by: Akita T Whoa, are we back in the '60s already ?
I think I still have a gas mask in the garage, but I doubt it's still working... it's probably 30 years old
Try changing the filters, may still work. We have several gas masks still in the attic, although I'm not exactly prepared for anything myself to be honest.
Edited because I snapped and arguably I shouldn't have.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Zetsubou Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.05 21:38:00 -
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If I ever acquire an underground bunker in preparation for the zombie/raptor/alien apocalypse, I suppose I might as well buy a gas mask too. The zombie infection may be airborne you know. ____________________
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente War is Bliss
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Posted - 2009.04.05 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly If I ever acquire an underground bunker in preparation for the zombie/raptor/alien apocalypse, I suppose I might as well buy a gas mask too. The zombie infection may be airborne you know.
Raptor? I haven't heard of that one before.
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.04.05 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: TraininVain on 05/04/2009 21:54:25 Biochem weapons are woefully ineffective. It's the nailbombs you should be afraid of
edit "Dirty bombs" are pretty lol too.
The real effectiveness of these kind of weapons as a tool of terrorism comes from their lack of obvious immediate effects. Great for causing unease I suppose.
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.04.05 22:14:00 -
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I live in the middle of the east coast hot zone so I pretty much will be gone with the first ray of nuclear war so no worries about a bunker.
As for chemical warfare I have my plastic sheets and duck tape to cover the doors and the windows.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Gambit Stryder
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Posted - 2009.04.05 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: Gambit Stryder on 05/04/2009 23:04:14 I have a gas mask that I made into a bong (ingame).
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.04.06 00:49:00 -
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A gas mask isn't going to help unless it fits perfectly and won't help against nerve agents that can be absorbed through the skin... which is all of them as far as I know
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overcorpse
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Posted - 2009.04.06 02:01:00 -
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Their called respirators nowadays not gas mask's.I did have a s10 respirator when i was in the army,Then i ended up making them for a living.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Zetsubou Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.06 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: ReaperOfSly If I ever acquire an underground bunker in preparation for the zombie/raptor/alien apocalypse, I suppose I might as well buy a gas mask too. The zombie infection may be airborne you know.
Raptor? I haven't heard of that one before.
Oh, you will... ____________________
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari Lemuria Prospecting
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Posted - 2009.04.06 08:39:00 -
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I don't really have any contingency plan stuff, except armaments.
So I guess when the bombs start a-droppin' i'll be first in line for Ghoulification... ah well.
Off to the Underworld!
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Hat Lion
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Posted - 2009.04.06 08:54:00 -
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I live in a sleepy suburban part of a sleepy suburban town, well-removed from just about anywhere.
Don't really see the point of taking any personal precautions - Obama's positive statement on nukes yesterday + a complete wind-down of biological and chemical programs in most countries since the end of the Cold War means I don't think I have anything to fear. At any rate, states aren't stupid enough to do anything that might warrant a nuclear attack on them by the UK. Aside from that, terrorists these days are hugely incompetent. Out of three terrorist attacks that have actually known to have been attempted, only one has been successful, on 7/7. The funny Prestwick bombings involved a Jeep on fire crashing into a security bollard and then stopping, whilst not blowing up, killing one of the attempted bombers and setting the rest on fire, as well as earning them a beating up from a few local Scottish guys. The 21/7 bombings involved four guys simultaneously not being able to blow themselves up.
So no, I doubt that any state with biological, chemical or nuclear weapons is stupid enough to launch them against the UK at the moment, and that any terrorists will not only a) go to London rather than my sleepy hometown but b) be totally incompetent to boot.
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Ryysa
Paisti Paisti Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.06 09:01:00 -
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I got a hardcore soviet gasmask somewhere... One of those that makes you look like an elephant, because it's filter is worn on the belt.
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.04.06 12:01:00 -
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I do have one in one of my drawers from the soviet occupation. Dunno if it's still working .. prolly is. They made em to last a while.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.06 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: ReaperOfSly If I ever acquire an underground bunker in preparation for the zombie/raptor/alien apocalypse, I suppose I might as well buy a gas mask too. The zombie infection may be airborne you know.
Raptor? I haven't heard of that one before.
I think that he means Rapture
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.06 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: dr doooo
Didn't the MOD sell off some old cold-war nuclear bunkers a few years ago?
You might be thinking of this
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Kephael
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.06 12:25:00 -
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I don't think gas masks would protect against a biological attack, which is probably more realistic for terrorists to carry out than a chemical attack that is defeated by gas masks. __________________________________________
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Zetsubou Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.06 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kephael I don't think gas masks would protect against a biological attack, which is probably more realistic for terrorists to carry out than a chemical attack that is defeated by gas masks.
Chemical attacks are much much cheaper though. You just need a concentration of some toxic (preferably heavy) gas and a small explosive to distribute a cloud of it. Biological attacks require R&D to find a nasty enough virus or bacteria, and even if such an attack is successful, a terrorist would have a hard time convincing anyone it was their doing rather than a natural occurance. Remember, terrorism is about making people afraid of terrorists. It's difficult to do that with germs.
As for a nuclear attack, that's nigh-on impossible for a terrorist to achieve. ____________________
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