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Miko Taeel
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:06:00 -
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Jstar999 wrote:
1Of9 wrote:
DazedOne wrote: I have an idea CCP, make your crappy unified inventory optional. It is beyond horrid!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for making my corp hangers in that crappy interface, now I have to do more work to find items. Make this optional like you did with that crappy ass captains quarters like most of us aren't using. I would think you would of learned your lesson from that debacle. apparently not. Only positive thing I can say is I like the missilie effects. You guys need to pull your heads out of your collective you know what and start listening to your damn players. How many of them told you that inventory crap you slapped together sucks nuts???????? MOST OF THEM!!!!!!!!!
CCP LISTEN TO THIS MEN HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+1
just copied from the Inferno feedback thread since the devs responsible for this SH**** seem to have vanished in thin air
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Mrs Adama
Und3r Th3 Influ3nc3
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:09:00 -
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Why in the heck does my cargohold button next to my hud NO LONGER opens up my ships cargohold in a neat box that I customized 2 years ago. Instead I have a huge box where I have to click a second button scroll down click yet a third time to open in a seperate window? Then have to do this all over again when I close it? And salvaging is a pain in the back side? Why do I no longer have a neat box pop up to where I can loot. Now I have a huge box show up with EVERYTHING I own all over the 7500 solar systems and wh's and why do I have to scroll down 70 pos guns 30 ewar pos mods just to access anything easily? WHY? Did the CSM have anything to do with this? I doubt that they were pushing for this, if I'm wrong I'm sure someone will post here that I am. Make it possible to let ppl choose which UI we want and you will see hands down that we want the old system back because it was SIMPLE. I again ask why I can't hit one button to open cargohold and move it to another window which used to take one click. Please tell me how you can possibly make the old way of doing this any easier???? |
Soniver Rozaklis
Stampeding Beasts Rising Phoenix Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:11:00 -
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Ok i was one of the those who kinda liked new change...now i am still on that side. Yeah sure, it has some flaws, but it's not that terrible as most of you are describing. I am not a miner, so fortunately i don't know that "pain". Also i am living in w-space so there is not many jumps/dock/undock. So from my point of view it's working quite good.
I had incorporated whole inventory window as tab together with log and notepad window. Surprisingly it's kept there even after relog to game. So i don't have problem with this.
One big flaw i see there is no ability to setup some filtering of visible containers. I can see there every POS module in the list and i don't care about most of them. This should be solved at least by making "favorite" and/or "ignored" list of containers. On top of that could be just filter by type.
Also please make text "My filters" clickable. Trying to hit that small arrow icon to expand list of filters is painful.
It was told here before, but that price display should be hidden by default. It's not that interesting information for the most of the time.
And one thing i missed in the "old" system ... changing order of columns (Name, Quantity, Group, Slot, Size...). I really would like to move Volume after Quantity. |
Tiger's Spirit
Troll Hunters INC.
118
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:12:00 -
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Faith Patrouette wrote:This new inventory system is appaling as it is now, I wont say much different then most that have replied here, But I do want to say this: We have seen the lack of communication from CCP before, the not taking feedback from playerbase seriously, not responding to serious complaints and ideas. Remember this CCP? Last time this complete and utter shutdown of communications happened, Hillmar came out with an apology.. Quote:*snip* We really do have something that no one else has. EVE is still unique in the real and virtual world. This is our vision for her, and we want so badly to take you there. But getting there is not an entitlement. It will take hard work, open communication and, above all else, collaboration with you. The greatest lesson for me is the realization that EVE belongs to you, and we at CCP are just the hosts of your experience. When we channel our passion for EVE constructively, we can make this vision a reality together.
But enough talk from me. We all know that much quoted phrase, GÇ£ItGÇÖs not what you say, itGÇÖs what you do,GÇ¥ that will make the difference here. From now on, CCP will focus on doing what we say and saying what we do. That is the path to restoring trust and moving forward. So hillmar and devs responsible for this new UI.. you said back then, there was a serious lack of communication that needed to be fixed, that there needed to be collaboration with the playerbase. Yet, 60 pages later, not one of the responsible devs have responded, worse even, when tested and shot down by playerbase on SISI, devs should have already stopped themselves before going live with this. We watch what you say (in this case, nothing) And we watch what you do (in this case, hide and ignore playerbase yet again) Hillmar, never forget valuable lessons learned in the past, apologies will only get you respect when made sincere and not repeated every half a year.
Agreed with you, i wrote similar things earlier.
"CCP didn't listen to playerbase. Lot of players tell to CCP at least 1 month ago what is the problem with their new inventory system, some member created videos from mistakes, but CCP answer was this :
CCP Arrow wrote:
"In the sessions the whole team observed the live feed and took notes on everything the participants did. We don't do User Tests because we don't believe you when you say there is a problem, we want to address it correctly and by seeing it in action with our own eyes, we can more easily find a solution to the problems you have found."
So, where is the CSM when the playerbase need them ? Why need moving to Jita or Amarr to shot monuments if the playerbase need attention ???
Just 1 year passed and CCP make same mistake again. They want lose in every years 20k players and they want fixing their mistakes in every year to bring them back ? This is the smartest solution ?"
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Rebel Mal
The Red Templars Guardians of Serenity
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:13:00 -
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What can I add to what most have said? Suffice to say, I have cancelled my account with CCP and will let it run out. Same old, same old, CCP you do not listen to your paying customers.
It really needs a mass cancellation of accounts to make them sit up and take notice in my opinion. I feel so very let down once again. :( |
YourDeathAngel
Pure Dutch Damage Corp Care Factor
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:17:00 -
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*wonders what's going on in Iceland
- alright, after this great inventory upgrade now let's continue with the captains quarter adding removable pillows to the couch - did anyone say some newbies are posting comments in the forum about the UI? - told ya, you don't have to play the game to make a great upgrade for it! - two more patches and we are there - we can sell to Microsoft as new explorer with animated starship screensafer |
Viola Wolf
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:26:00 -
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I like the new inventory window. Yeah it seems clunky at first, but that's only because it's different from what I'm used to using. There's a lot of "stuff" packed into one window and I think they did a good job of organizing it. I like it more every time I use it. Now there's no need for four or five windows cluttering up the display. And if I would like a new window, the option is there (shift click). |
Alex Logan
Ministry of Destruction SCUM.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:31:00 -
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This is FAIL. You guys broke something which was working very well.
If we wanted filters and forms we could have simply gone to google search or something.
Now it will take us ages to do what we want.
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
2363
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:36:00 -
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Patch notes for today's patch.
Some fixes to the Unified Inventory issues people have been running into. I know this doesn't cover everyone's concerns, just posting this in the relevant threads so everyone is aware of the current status. CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |-á@ccp_guard |
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Bo Deepzone
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:36:00 -
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Alex Logan wrote:
-1... or should i say -92475827345
Number out of boundary, server node killed. Please retry. |
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Soniver Rozaklis
Stampeding Beasts Rising Phoenix Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:42:00 -
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You see this people ? So many anger around here and telling that CCP does not communicate ... of course, because they were fixing it ! Latest patch notes sounds promising and i think it will eventually work out pretty well. |
Kblackjack54
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:42:00 -
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Tried again to work with this inventory **** up, and thatGÇÖs about as respectful as I feel I want to be about it, I have no idea what CCP were actually trying to achieve here but what ever it was this pair of morons that put it together appear to have allowed the ego to run away with there common sense.
Mining now becomes utterly inefficient, a constant round of clicking menus on a large screen that utterly obscures the game, I recall the hype about the stunning visuals, would not call this inventory screen stunning, large difficult to navigate, utterly useless to miners methods of working.
Simply opening your cargo hold to transfer from a can requires a long series of clicking menus, then shift clicking to open the can, which oddly now opens in the main menu, follow CCP's designers methods and I 'm sure you will eventually get something workable to appear on the screen, but fly to the pos and back and you have the whole exercise to go through yet again to get back to were you wanted and needed to be, able to transfer from a can to your cargo hold, efficient, I think not, intuitive, In know not were you go that idea from.
Lets look at a mining PoS base, several hangars maybe a couple of Arrays, built to facilitate mining ops, as it stands unless you know in advance exactly which structure you need to access your going to be there a while flying from one to another, 3000 meter opening limit, to find what you want, and each time your going to have the same click fest failure stream until your required target opens.
The lag involved with this exercise is extreme at time as it would appear each time the whole menu has to refresh, that is for every structure listed, bit odd to say this is an assist to players when for so long they have had this one complaint uppermost when trying to interface with CCP, Lag is not good, adding to it is not good.
Research the history of this abomination and you find that throughout it's history players have been telling CCP Arrow and his Butt buddy this is a REALLY BAD IDEA, and in spite of Hilmars promise to listen these two went right on ahead and forced it into the game.
Not got to trying to sort corp operations out yet but from the reaction of our SRP manager, he logged off in disgust as he found it impossible to work with the thing saying if he had wanted to play a spreadsheet he would open MS office.
Get you collective heads out of each others asses and please take a look at this rubbish from the point of view of the players in game, not that of your ego's guysn or is this Sony trying to finish off EVE in favour of there new toy DUST as the whole thing smells of console.
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Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
201
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:49:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Patch notes for today's patch.Some fixes to the Unified Inventory issues people have been running into. I know this doesn't cover everyone's concerns, just posting this in the relevant threads so everyone is aware of the current status.
NOTHING of my problemes are fixed with this new patch. Where can I deactivate Mr. Arrows sh!t UI? Where can I remove my Drone Bay from my station hangar, from my ship hangar, from all my station containers, from all my wrecks? I demand hundreds of independent windows, which I can adjust as I WISH! Not as some Id!ot from Arrows team might think I wish! And bring this guy Arrow here. He has to say something about his incompetent work!
KILL THE ******* UI and bring back the old one. Otherwise you troll you customers. As long as you CCP guys never ask your customers, what THEY want, YOU have to redo it as often till you have satisfied ALL!
ROLL BACK! |
Soniver Rozaklis
Stampeding Beasts Rising Phoenix Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 11:59:00 -
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You should calm down. Yelling at people usually doesn't solve anything...
Edit: You can hardly satisfy ALL people, everyone has different taste of how it should look and work. |
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
57
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:00:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:[url=http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp]Patch notes for today's patch.[/url
From the patch notes....
A texture issue that occurred on female avatarGÇÖs ankles has been fixed
Phew, now everything will be ok
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Ronin Delavega
Belteaters
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:00:00 -
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Dont like it.
It takes a long time to open if you have alot of gear. Its too big.
I prefered how it was. If it aint broken dont fix it. |
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
57
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:01:00 -
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Rommiee wrote:From the patch notes.... A texture issue that occurred on female avatarGÇÖs ankles has been fixed Phew, now everything will be ok
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Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:04:00 -
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Soniver Rozaklis wrote:You should calm down. Yelling at people usually doesn't solve anything...
Edit: You can hardly satisfy ALL people, everyone has different taste of how it should look and work. CALM DOWN? NO! They ignore us. They ignore us since the release ov EVE. NO Arrow in this formus says something about his own encumbered crap UI. CCP had ALL the feedback from the player testers but they ignored us. I WILL NEVER CALM DOWN TILL THIS CRAP UI IS BURNED. |
Steijn
Quay Industries
73
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:10:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Patch notes for today's patch.Some fixes to the Unified Inventory issues people have been running into. I know this doesn't cover everyone's concerns, just posting this in the relevant threads so everyone is aware of the current status.
Fixed an issue where the new Unified Inventory would reopen every time a character jumped, docked, undocked or otherwise performed a session change.
not true, still does it. |
Ishanmae
Binding Energy
14
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:10:00 -
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Callidus Dux wrote:Soniver Rozaklis wrote:You should calm down. Yelling at people usually doesn't solve anything...
Edit: You can hardly satisfy ALL people, everyone has different taste of how it should look and work. CALM DOWN? NO! They ignore us. They ignore us since the release ov EVE. NO Arrow in this forum says something about his own encumbered crap UI. CCP had ALL the feedback from the player testers but they ignored us. I WILL NEVER CALM DOWN TILL THIS CRAP UI IS BURNED.
No Arrow here might mean he's checking things out and trying to fix things... Please, don't calm down, rage quit, but give me your stuff first! |
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Gnast
Cohortes Vigilum Curatores Veritatis Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:13:00 -
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Soniver Rozaklis wrote:You should calm down. Yelling at people usually doesn't solve anything...
Edit: You can hardly satisfy ALL people, everyone has different taste of how it should look and work.
If there are a cosmetic change that doesnt really affect the player exprience, then fine, CCP can mess around with it. That being stats of ships and grafix.
But when they change the UI, it can improve or ruin the player exprience. IF it leads to clutter of the screen, harder to manage, many more mouseclicks to accomplish the same things AND last but not least; LAG aka frustration, then it needs to be made OPTIONAL. Like the captains quarter. |
Soniver Rozaklis
Stampeding Beasts Rising Phoenix Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:17:00 -
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I believe this is just beginning and they will improve it in time, you just need to be patient. Anger and rage is not really helping anything. It's heading in right direction in my opinion and i already starting to love it.
Only thing i am missing is to make "favorite containers" or hide those i don't care about. It's hard to navigate through tree full of POS modules that are not relevant for me.
All other things are just small glitches. |
disasteur
Tellcomtec Incorporated. Preatoriani
27
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:19:00 -
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Steijn wrote:CCP Guard wrote:Patch notes for today's patch.Some fixes to the Unified Inventory issues people have been running into. I know this doesn't cover everyone's concerns, just posting this in the relevant threads so everyone is aware of the current status. Fixed an issue where the new Unified Inventory would reopen every time a character jumped, docked, undocked or otherwise performed a session change. not true, still does it.
there is just one issue with the new inventory crap, and that is its existence throw it in the recyclebin will fix this and many other crap so called improvements |
Krystyn
Serenity Rising LLC Vanguard.
2
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:23:00 -
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Half my corp quit the game ever these wonderful 'improvements' that nobody asked for..thanks CCP |
disasteur
Tellcomtec Incorporated. Preatoriani
29
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:30:00 -
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Krystyn wrote:Half my corp quit the game ever these wonderful 'improvements' that nobody asked for..thanks CCP
just wondering how many people are willing to quit this game, cus of the crap inventory issue
i for one will not log in until its fixed or improved (or better the old style)
ps.
and no you cant have my stuff either |
Soniver Rozaklis
Stampeding Beasts Rising Phoenix Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:37:00 -
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Are you really people so hot headed ? Some thing has changed and it's quite different from what you were used to. That's true, is that really reason to start quiting ? Every change is painful from the start, but it WILL eventually sort out for most of us. You just need to be patient and look at it from objective point of view not like: "mom, they broke my toy, i hate them !". |
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
204
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:39:00 -
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Ishanmae wrote:Callidus Dux wrote:Soniver Rozaklis wrote:You should calm down. Yelling at people usually doesn't solve anything...
Edit: You can hardly satisfy ALL people, everyone has different taste of how it should look and work. CALM DOWN? NO! They ignore us. They ignore us since the release ov EVE. NO Arrow in this forum says something about his own encumbered crap UI. CCP had ALL the feedback from the player testers but they ignored us. I WILL NEVER CALM DOWN TILL THIS CRAP UI IS BURNED. No Arrow here might mean he's checking things out and trying to fix things... Please, don't calm down, rage quit, but give me your stuff first!
I will not rage quit. I want, that CCP rolls back his sh!t. This is a difference! BTW: Why do you think that I should give all my stuff to someone I dont know nor like? |
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
204
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:43:00 -
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Soniver Rozaklis wrote:Are you really people so hot headed ? Some thing has changed and it's quite different from what you were used to. That's true, is that really reason to start quiting ? Every change is painful from the start, but it WILL eventually sort out for most of us. You just need to be patient and look at it from objective point of view not like: "mom, they broke my toy, i hate them !".
You are online since: 2012.03.09. If you were online since 4 years you would know that it would be stupid to be patient with CCP till they have changed things. The need te be kicked in theyr a$$. Otherwise they do not recognize the paying customer base. Sad but true. |
Soniver Rozaklis
Stampeding Beasts Rising Phoenix Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:49:00 -
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Callidus Dux wrote:Soniver Rozaklis wrote:Are you really people so hot headed ? Some thing has changed and it's quite different from what you were used to. That's true, is that really reason to start quiting ? Every change is painful from the start, but it WILL eventually sort out for most of us. You just need to be patient and look at it from objective point of view not like: "mom, they broke my toy, i hate them !". You are online since: 2012.03.09. If you were online since 4 years you would know that it would be stupid to be patient with CCP till they have changed things. The need te be kicked in theyr a$$. Otherwise they do not recognize the paying customer base. Sad but true.
Well i am developer in RL and i know how paying customers can be pain in ass. You can hardly ever to satisfy them, they will always just see errors and things than could be better. So now when i am on other side, i know how it's hard for them have it and i know that yelling at them is not really solution. It just slow things down and some real issues and suggestion from here are easily lost in that spam in here. |
Zwoot
Dark Fusion Industries Limitless Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.23 12:50:00 -
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I won't scream in anger or anything but imo this UI change is 100% fail.
I liked having many windows opened at the same time. It gave me good overwiev and control of what I was displaying at any given time. For me, this change is 100% bad and unnecessary. It wasn't broken in the first place just because some devs hates right-click menus
Tried doing some casual mining and really TRIED to understand how the mind of Arrow and his goons worked when they constructed this menace but I just couldn't wrap my head around it. This new UI makes Eve boring and tedious to play...looting wrecks, mining, sitting at a POS and trying to move stuff around...all a nightmare right now.
I live in a WH so I have only tested the new UI briefly with an alt in a station but with similar feelings.
Wonder if it's dumb prestige that allows this kind of untested, unwanted crap that makes it HARDER to handle your inventory to reach TQ. |
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