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Abe Vargas
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Posted - 2009.04.10 16:15:00 -
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I read that that Gallenteans have French origins, and I can infer a few others somewhat easily. Khanid, for example, might indicate a Mongolian descent, based on the il-Khanid Dynasty. Does anyone know what the official history behind the bloodlines is?
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.04.10 18:52:00 -
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You are focusing too much on single ethnicies as origins of the EVE Races. The EVE Races are a mixture of very different ethnic and social groups. That includes the Gallente.
The Gallente came from an independant Colony, that had their own Origin in the Tau Ceti Frenchmen. It is very likely that other ethnicies or groups joined them even during the start of their Colony. Saying, the Gallente are French is making things far too simple.
The Caldari have their own origin in the employees of a Megacorporation from beyond the EVE Gate, who stranded on a barely terraformed world.
The Amarr came from a unified Catholic Church that once only settled a single continent on their own Homeworld.
Nothing else is known about the other Races, but it is very likely that they also came from a mixture of groups, that settled in EVE.
A Gallente would likely not even understand what you mean by calling him/her french and the same can be assumed of all other races.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Sir Substance
Minmatar MagiTech Alliance Inc. MagiTech Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.11 00:11:00 -
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i concur. no race is singly descended from a given ethnicity.
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BrysonBennington
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Posted - 2009.04.12 03:38:00 -
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Mais Non, Je parlez vous une petite francais du les monde Earth.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.04.12 14:47:00 -
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Caldari are kind of an Asian/American influence, atleast in culture with Megacorps a part of everyday life.
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Grek Forto
Malevolent Intentions Dark Solar Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.12 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker Caldari are kind of an Asian/American influence, atleast in culture with Megacorps a part of everyday life.
But the general naming of stuff and such (not ships) suggests that they are Finnish/Japanese.
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.04.12 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon The Amarr came from a unified Catholic Church that once only settled a single continent on their own Homeworld
Fluff says that they're from The Conformist phalanx of the Unified Catholic Church (note the capitalization).
Note that Catholic is derived from the greek "katholikos" and only means "universal". It doesn't necessarily mean that they're catholics, or even Christian (though almost certainly monotheistic, and most likely a christian sect of some sort). But even after being unified and settling Amarr they've gone through 18 millennia or memetic mutation. Thinking that their origin has anything but the faintest influence on their current way of life is like thinking that most modern french worship the celtic gods (and that's just 2000 years of history). ______________________________________________ -My respect can not be won, only lost. It's given freely and only grudgingly withdrawn. |
JordanParey
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.04.12 22:30:00 -
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....and here begins 18 millionth thread on this..
/flame suit on
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Rachel Silverside
Caldari K Directorate
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Posted - 2009.04.14 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel
Originally by: Deviana Sevidon The Amarr came from a unified Catholic Church that once only settled a single continent on their own Homeworld
Fluff says that they're from The Conformist phalanx of the Unified Catholic Church (note the capitalization).
Note that Catholic is derived from the greek "katholikos" and only means "universal". It doesn't necessarily mean that they're catholics, or even Christian (though almost certainly monotheistic, and most likely a christian sect of some sort.
****ing mormons -------------------- i play momorpugers |
RichtigesPortraitFuerTyr
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Posted - 2009.04.14 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Rachel Silverside
Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel
Originally by: Deviana Sevidon The Amarr came from a unified Catholic Church that once only settled a single continent on their own Homeworld
Fluff says that they're from The Conformist phalanx of the Unified Catholic Church (note the capitalization).
Note that Catholic is derived from the greek "katholikos" and only means "universal". It doesn't necessarily mean that they're catholics, or even Christian (though almost certainly monotheistic, and most likely a christian sect of some sort.
****ing mormons
Correction: ****ing mormons with lasers.
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.04.14 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Reeth on 14/04/2009 16:48:32 There are a lot of races and bloodlines in eve and it does seem pretty clear that CCP made most if not all of them with a specific race/culture in mind.
Ive always seen the Amarrian Races as Semitic and Mongolian.
Caldari... British, German and Japanese.
Gallente... French and Chinese.
Minmatar... American and Icelandic.
And is it just me or is CCP eliminating Earth stuff from eve? The Gallente description no longer mentions France and the Bestower no longer has a cross on it.
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.17 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth Edited by: Mr Reeth on 14/04/2009 16:48:32 There are a lot of races and bloodlines in eve and it does seem pretty clear that CCP made most if not all of them with a specific race/culture in mind.
Ive always seen the Amarrian Races as Semitic and Mongolian.
Caldari... British, German and Japanese.
Gallente... French and Chinese.
Minmatar... American and Icelandic.
And is it just me or is CCP eliminating Earth stuff from eve? The Gallente description no longer mentions France and the Bestower no longer has a cross on it.
Where did you get that info from?
As for the removal of French things...it may be for what you said but also 'cause CCP want people to stop playing Caldari, and they avoid Gallente 'cause they're 'French' and that...silly I know...
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.04.17 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Seriphyn Inhonores
Originally by: Mr Reeth Edited by: Mr Reeth on 14/04/2009 16:48:32 There are a lot of races and bloodlines in eve and it does seem pretty clear that CCP made most if not all of them with a specific race/culture in mind.
Ive always seen the Amarrian Races as Semitic and Mongolian.
Caldari... British, German and Japanese.
Gallente... French and Chinese.
Minmatar... American and Icelandic.
And is it just me or is CCP eliminating Earth stuff from eve? The Gallente description no longer mentions France and the Bestower no longer has a cross on it.
Where did you get that info from?
As for the removal of French things...it may be for what you said but also 'cause CCP want people to stop playing Caldari, and they avoid Gallente 'cause they're 'French' and that...silly I know...
I didn't get this info from anywhere really. It's more about my own interpritation of portraits, back story and naming traditions.
The True Amarr and the Ni-Kunni just look Semitic to me and the names of systems and people sound Semitic. The Khanid have always seemed like Mongolians. And somebody said earlier the name Khanid is Mongolian.
The Mega Corp nature and love of the state seem very British and German to me, Civire being Brits and Deteis being Germanic. The naming tradition and the looks of the Achura are Japanese, there's no question there.
As for the Gallente I really have no solid basis other than a general feeling for saying the Jin-Mei are Chinese. And the Gallente Are kown to be French. But I have no idea what the Intaki are.
The Tribal nature of the Minmatar Reminds me very much of America. In America you have all these seperate groups of people. You have Little Italy, Little Ukraine, China Town, Little Tokyo, Spanish Harlem, South Boston (Irish) and a whole bunch of others. It really wouldn't surprise me to see it all break down into tribes someday. The naming traditions are very Icelandic but other than that I don't see anything Icelandic about them.
But there are a crap load of other races aren't there?
What about the Jove, Sleepers and minor bloodlines you never hear much about?
Anyone have a complete list?
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.17 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth The Tribal nature of the Minmatar Reminds me very much of America. In America you have all these seperate groups of people. You have Little Italy, Little Ukraine, China Town, Little Tokyo, Spanish Harlem, South Boston (Irish) and a whole bunch of others. It really wouldn't surprise me to see it all break down into tribes someday. The naming traditions are very Icelandic but other than that I don't see anything Icelandic about them.
Tribal nature? There's no question it's based off Africa...millions of tribes there...
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.04.19 04:17:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth I didn't get this info from anywhere really. It's more about my own interpritation of portraits, back story and naming traditions.
The True Amarr and the Ni-Kunni just look Semitic to me and the names of systems and people sound Semitic. The Khanid have always seemed like Mongolians. And somebody said earlier the name Khanid is Mongolian.
The Mega Corp nature and love of the state seem very British and German to me, Civire being Brits and Deteis being Germanic. The naming tradition and the looks of the Achura are Japanese, there's no question there.
Friends of mine tell me that the Amarr language (names, places) is similar to Persian. Also the name Ardishshapur is pretty much a dead give-away when you know that the first two kings of the second persian empire were "Ardeshir" and "Shapur". Khanid is indeed similar to Mongolian (in Amarrian Khanid means "little lord", in Mongolian Khan is Lord), but Khan as a title was/is spread all across the mongolian and turkish domains being incorporated into most turkish and mongolian dialects.
Caldari supposedly has a language structure that is reminiscent of the finnish-ugrian language group (for example, as the spelling goes it uses both short and long consonants and short and long vowels, which is quite unusual) ______________________________________________ -My respect can not be won, only lost. It's given freely and only grudgingly withdrawn. |
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