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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.04 06:38:00 -
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wait wait wait, tell me if I've got this right.
YOu want people to stop pushing their way of playing the game on you. Because, as you say, you don't think other people should leave you alone and stop trying to force you to play different. Which is what they do, they are playing eve the way they want to. They want to be pirates in a space mmo. That's pretty cool if you think about it, they are a bunch of nerds sitting at computers roleplaying that they are pirates. So really when one of them calls you a carebear nerd, just remember you're being insulted by someone who is playing a video game about space ships and taking it seriously.
So take your own advice. Don't force your play-style on other people. If they wan to play in the sandbox by being that bully who knocks down your sand castle yo spent hours doing? guess what, that's eve. It's the only game with a truly real sandbox environment. And that is how they choose to play the game, space pirates. BAsicly they are changing the way eve is played. More and more corps are going to start running hulkageddons. One day getting ganked while mining will be a real possibility.
There isn't 3 separate sandboxes to play in here, it's eve, it's less of a game then a bunch of objects thrown into a world, and then they just sort of let a bunch of us go nuts in it. They didn't set up a market with preset prices. players choose the prices on their own.
So what you want is allready whats going on here. Your mining game is not being changed by CCP, it's evoling socaily. Which could only happen in eve. it's Awesome. |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.04 06:50:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Malcanis wrote:Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Why force your play style on others? Because I can. Why play EVE otherwise? Malcanis you of all people are no pirate...you're as pathetic as the others. If you were as badarse as you think you are you'd be tearing up the kill boards and raking in the loots. :)
he supports the vision and the essence of the game. Even if he doesn't play every role you can play in eve, he loves that he plays a game that allows for so many professions and play styles to exist. Go play a one player game. Or a game like guild wars 2. It's great I swear, awesome PvP, great PvE area, fun boss battles, real , whatever I don't need to advertise it, my point is guildwars 2 is not a sandbox, but it's also a good game, so if you don't like playing eve online, don't play it. There are other good MMOs! |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.04 07:14:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Sri Nova wrote:Saia Tae Arragosa wrote: I disagree. I think the people that wanted null sec got it and when they got it they discovered it was boring as **** and or they had to kowtow down to some ******* of a corp leader and be at the persons beck and call all the time and that created a lot of angst. Face it...null and low sec are broke because the players broke it. To many arseholes play in null and low sec and because they can't get their rocks off in null and low sec any longer, they decide to move back into high sec to just be the griefers they are and have always been.
Oh it is very true that the players are to blame . The players in high sec who hole up and have unintentionally forced CCP to change their vision of the game . The players in low sec that made low sec into the wretch that is now. The players in null sec have tried to make utopias but the mechanics are not there. the players could try harder but it always fails, ends up in civil war, or becomes overrun so yeah, it still comes down to the players (but they could use a lil more help from CCP) . However lets not forget the players in high sec also effect the game, when a majority of them decide to hole up in high sec this creates a major shift in game play . One cannot expect no ramifications. (this very fact is pivotal as to why their is so much angst) CCP is torn on the issue as well they introduced npc corp taxes to push people out, and into player corps. With the end result anticipated that more people would end up in null . Yet they introduce incursions to add more content into high sec. A strong high sec makes for a weaker null and until this is resolved you will have issues. Many of the people in null are not hateful greifers they are the people trying to play the original vision of eve . And the more that high sec is buffed (with players and mechanics) the more this vision will be dimmed. If CCP removed high sec they'd be shutting their game down in months. Face it, for all the crying the null sec players want to do about high sec, high sec players contribute just as much subs if not more than the low sec. High sec is CCP's bread and butter. If anything CCP should be shoring up its PvE game and trying to get more people involved in EVE. As it is now their new player churn rate is extremely high. New people start, find out that EVE is not as good as people make it out to be and the game lacks solid PvE and they leave. Low sec and null sec is the niche portion of EVE game play and it will always be that way...dozens of MMO's with FFA pvp rules shows us that. Look at any of the biggest ffa pvp titles...oh wait...their aren't any!
Who said anything about REMOVING high sec?
The game is working as intended, what you are asking for is to remove highsec, and replace it with your stupid carebear wonderland. |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.04 07:26:00 -
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I mean hell I never even got a level 4 mission agent untill my 2nd year playing eve online. When they finally back in 2005 let you tag along with a friend and get some of that standings boost and quest rewards.
Before i could play missions with friend and get rewards, sometime sI flew in missions with friends for free. Because it was fun.
And I never needed to buy many ships, my alliance replaced my losses. And on small gangs and ones I'm in charge of I have a solid datacore mining operation. I can afford my own equipment when we aren't in a major war with a ship replacement plan.
so in a way you don't even need to ever do a mission in this game but you can still play in high sec wars. That is part of highsec you can live there for a whole year and never run a mission. |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.04 07:47:00 -
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Sri Nova wrote:You dont have to agree with it , just understand that your vision and their vision is going to differ, and this creates the conflict that this thread is about .
Correction, it creates the conflict that is eve itself, and what drives every part of the game forward. |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.04 08:38:00 -
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Quote:Dors wrote:
I support people blowing crap up. I want them to blow stuff up. It is how industrialist and miners make their living. You and the others of null and low sec have tons of space and lots of things to blow up, but instead of fighting it out amongst yourselves, because that would be to hard and difficult and go against the games design, you instead take out your angst on new players and or players that don't wish to partake in your game of who has the biggest virtual e-peons.
The last paragraph sums up the whole thread. Null bears are shooting pinatas in high sec. Why? Because their alliance leaders are too afraid to do a real fighting so they do not loose their space and army of minions to command. So everone is just sitting on tech moons and sends the bored plebs of their null empire to enjoy some breads and circuses in high sec. But really could not give a dam about it the whole Null Sec might as well disappear tomorrow it is so boring.
You want make null more interesting again? Remove local like in WH's. Until then it is one boring blob fest with too easy logisitics and jump bridge networks that make any interesting activities impossible. [/quote]
it's actually how funny how obvious of a change it would be to remove local from 0.0 now a days. |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.04 19:54:00 -
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SMT008 wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Hisec people, on the other hand, rarely think of 0.0.
That's not because they don't give a ****. That's because they either fear it or don't know anything about it. Ignorance.
so wouldn't it be awesome if FW was a safe way to learn 0.0 warfare in a safe setting that gives you bonuses and NPC run events. I know it's not as sandbox open as real 0.0, but I think a lot of people that got in FW back when it came out, they didn't go back to highsec, they left for real alliances and 0.0 warfare. I think FW alone got at least 8000 new players into 0.0 for what it's wroth. |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.04 20:39:00 -
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Alotta Cleavage wrote:Nerds bullied IRL can now be the bullies.
Right, which lets people like me be in anti-pirate corps. We fight pirates. You can't kill just one part of eve without effecting lots of other peoples way they choose to play eve as well. |
MotherMoon
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Posted - 2012.05.06 00:06:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Bane Necran wrote:You keep quoting things out of context intentionally No, I just cut your quotes short to answer specific points or to reduce the irrelevant rambling. Quote:trying to put words in my mouth, and are blatantly trying to twist and manipulate things. You're confusing me with you again, since you're the one trying to change the order in which things were stated and assigning your arguments to me. Quote:You're only good at sounding right, not being right. Good thing, then, that I happen to be right too: that the numbers do not show that there are more people in highsecGǪ you know, that whole uncertainty thing I said at the beginning before you injected your density argument.
When tippia and mothermoon agree on something, it's time to stop trying to convince people your right |
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