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xxxak
Caldari O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.14 19:17:00 -
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This guide is based on approximately 3 years of playing and my ability to fly most T1 and T2 ships except for Gallente T2 cruisers and T2 BS.
I will not discuss the falcon because it is being changed now.
It is a matter of opinion, but I will briefly explain my views with each statement I make:
Best Damage Interceptor: 1) Taranis. Look at it's bonuses. It has a lot of damage, in fact you can hit almost 300 DPS with it. Yes it will die if it gets tackled down, but it will kill anything that can't tackle it. 2) Crusader: Decent damage, but the heavy cap use of lasers can cause problems. Only two mid slots kinna makes it less than perfect. 3) Crow: Missiles have been nerfed, but still decent at doing a bit of damage.
Best Tackle Interceptor: 1) Probably a tie between the Stiletto and Ares. Great speed and not TOO hard to fit. 2) Malediction is also very good.
Best Assault Frigate: 1) Ishkur. More than 200 DPS. Decent tanking options. Can fit rails or blasters and be effective.
Best DPS Cruiser: 1) Thorax. Look at its bonuses and drone bay. It is huge for DPS! Use medium blasters. 2) Vexor. Also great bonuses and drone bay. Great DPS. 3) Rupture. Good DPS. Range very limited unless you fit T2 guns however. Use AutoCannons. 4) Arbitrator. Decent DPS.
Best DPS/Solo HAC: 1) Ishtar. So many options, so much DPS, so easy to Solo. 2) Vagabond
Best DPS/Gang HAC: 1) Zealot. Range and DPS. Nuff said.
Best Tank HAC (and it has DPS!) 1) Sacrilege.
Best Recon: 1) Huginn/Rapier. Sorry I know a lot will disagree but it has some DPS, Webs are still very important, and a decent drone bay. 2) Curse/Pilgrim. Decent for small and medium gangs. Useless for larger gangs.
Best Battleships: 1) Amarr ships. They have the most Tank, the most DPS, and the most options.
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Drahkar
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Posted - 2009.04.14 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Drahkar on 14/04/2009 19:39:09 You forgot the Phantasm for best HAC at killing stabbed ratting Drakes. With a special fit, it can get 600 DPS. Great for maintaining combat patrols. |
xxxak
Caldari O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.14 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Drahkar You forgot the Phantasm for best HAC at killing stabbed ratting Drakes. With a special fit, it can get 600 DPS.
True. But as you saw I didn't mention any faction ships. But yes the Phant is amazing and I use it myself.
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Chalic
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Posted - 2009.04.14 19:35:00 -
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dude ive never managed to kill a stabbed drake before! If i was to ever meet such a combat patroler hero I would probably donate all my iskies to his glory
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Drahkar
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Posted - 2009.04.14 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: Drahkar on 14/04/2009 19:42:41 Edited by: Drahkar on 14/04/2009 19:37:06
Originally by: xxxak
Originally by: Drahkar You forgot the Phantasm for best HAC at killing stabbed ratting Drakes. With a special fit, it can get 600 DPS.
True. But as you saw I didn't mention any faction ships. But yes the Phant is amazing and I use it myself.
Originally by: xxxak I was maintaining a combat patrol of our Alliance's 0.0 entry point with a number of small ships late at night. We knew a neutral Drake was in the system ratting, but had not made visual contact with it.
I broke off from the main gang and scanned it down (directional), locating it in a belt.
I locked it down and started to shoot at it, while calling for my gang mates. Just then, it warped off. Stabs. ****ing Stabs.
Well, I proceeded to switch to a HAC and put a double point on it, while my gang mates also switched to double points.
We scanned it down again, and I warped to its most likely location (a belt). As I dropped out of warp, it warped in behind me. I scrammed it, and a friend arrived seconds later to also scram it.
I was using a special fit, and doing over 600 EM DPS a second. The Drake was fit for full kinetic/thermal shielding and only had 10,000 shield HP.
It died in less than 60 seconds between me and an AF.
Don't rat in my home.
Not that I'm mocking you but... I'm mocking you. Underlined the parts relevant to my previous post. Took the liberty of bolding random funny parts too.
Edit : above post is refreshing, understood without needing the explanation. +0.01 internets. |
xxxak
Caldari O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.14 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Drahkar Edited by: Drahkar on 14/04/2009 19:42:41 Edited by: Drahkar on 14/04/2009 19:37:06
Originally by: xxxak
Originally by: Drahkar ...
Not that I'm mocking you but... I'm mocking you. Underlined the parts relevant to my previous post. Took the liberty of bolding random funny parts too.
Edit : above post is refreshing, understood without needing the explanation. +0.01 internets.
In retrospect, that post was pretty hilariously stupid.
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Drahkar
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Posted - 2009.04.14 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Drahkar on 14/04/2009 19:52:56
Originally by: xxxak
Originally by: Drahkar ...
Not that I'm mocking you but... I'm mocking you. Underlined the parts relevant to my previous post. Took the liberty of bolding random funny parts too.
Edit : above post is refreshing, understood without needing the explanation. +0.01 internets.
In retrospect, that post was pretty hilariously stupid.
You just messed up your quotes and put my name on your stupidity while putting yours on my awesomeness. |
xxxak
Caldari O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.14 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Drahkar Edited by: Drahkar on 14/04/2009 19:52:56
Originally by: xxxak
Originally by: Drahkar ...
Not that I'm mocking you but... I'm mocking you. Underlined the parts relevant to my previous post. Took the liberty of bolding random funny parts too.
Edit : above post is refreshing, understood without needing the explanation. +0.01 internets.
In retrospect, that post was pretty hilariously stupid.
You just messed up your quotes and put my name on your stupidity while putting yours on my awesomeness.
I am confusing with my combination of ELITENESS AND STUPIDITY HUH?
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.04.14 20:05:00 -
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Which does the most DPS per second?
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Cade Morrigan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.14 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Zaqar Which does the most DPS per second?
Would this be the rate of change of DPS? DPS Squared? or just DPSS?
"As I activate each launcher, my DPSS increases by another 100DPS..."
Yeah that works. |
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Zackaryel
Caldari Echolalia. Shangri-La.
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Posted - 2009.04.14 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Zackaryel on 14/04/2009 20:16:32
Originally by: xxxak
Best Battleships: 1) Amarr ships. They have the most Tank, the most DPS, and the most options.
Pretty obvious to guess what battleships you fly. Oh, and eerrr, no.
If you want to post some sort of guide, you should be objective, not subjective imo. ---------- http://www.youtube.com/user/Zackaryel http://zackaryel.mybrute.com |
xxxak
Caldari O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.14 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Zackaryel Edited by: Zackaryel on 14/04/2009 20:16:32
Originally by: xxxak
Best Battleships: 1) Amarr ships. They have the most Tank, the most DPS, and the most options.
Pretty obvious to guess what battleships you fly. Oh, and eerrr, no.
If you want to post some sort of guide, you should be objective, not subjective imo.
Actually, I fly Raven most of the time. I fly all 4 races of BS though.
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Drahkar
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Posted - 2009.04.14 20:46:00 -
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You fly the Raven most of the time? It shows. Amarr BS have the most options right? |
God's Secret
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Posted - 2009.04.14 21:06:00 -
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Where is the guide!?
Also, Amarr BSs have 'options'!?.. like what?.. larger rims and improved exaust? Amarr BSs are the least versatile of them all..
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xxxak
Caldari O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.14 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Drahkar You fly the Raven most of the time? It shows. Amarr BS have the most options right?
Amarr is the only race with a decent sniper, decent tank, and decent tank/gank BS for pvp.
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You Want
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Posted - 2009.04.14 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Cade Morrigan
Originally by: Zaqar Which does the most DPS per second?
Would this be the rate of change of DPS? DPS Squared? or just DPSS?
"As I activate each launcher, my DPSS increases by another 100DPS..."
Yeah that works.
lol.
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Therran Promitz
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.14 23:42:00 -
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Your forgot Nightmare for best "ranged facemelter"
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2009.04.15 01:21:00 -
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Strangely enough, I agree with most of what OP said.
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.15 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: xxxak Amarr is the only race with a decent sniper, decent tank, and decent tank/gank BS for pvp.
If we forget the Rokh (sniper, tank/gank and tank) and the Raven (gang DPS) exist.
I'd add the Eagle with the Sac as best tanking HAC as well. With crystals and blue pill, the Eagle would tank much more than a Sac. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
Xiozor
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Posted - 2009.04.15 04:55:00 -
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Originally by: xxxak
Originally by: Drahkar You fly the Raven most of the time? It shows. Amarr BS have the most options right?
Amarr is the only race with a decent sniper, decent tank, and decent tank/gank BS for pvp.
Only exceptions being
Gallente: Megathron is a good sniper, can be fit with a good tank, and both the Dominix and the Megathron can tank + gank.
Minmatar: Tempest is a good sniper, neuting AC Tempest and a Typhoon also can tank + gank.
Caldari: Rokh is a good sniper, Blaster Rokh and Torp Raven both being good tank + gank.
Other than those 3 though, you are totally correct.
What are these options you speak of? You must mean average drone bays, 3 mid slots and non-changeable damage types? Clearly far more options there than a Typhoon, Tempest, Dominix or Raven would give you, ----------------------------------------------- Mr.Kippling just launched a nuclear holocaust at third world countries! ... But he does make exceedingly good cakes. |
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Bai ZongTong
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.04.15 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Drahkar
Not that I'm mocking you but... I'm mocking you.
that is pretty low level noob posting. even worse than OP. ---
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Bai ZongTong
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2009.04.15 16:35:00 -
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Also i think OP knows a great deal about ships and it would be fun to 1v1 sometime. ---
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar OVERLOAD. Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2009.04.15 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 15/04/2009 17:58:34
Originally by: xxxak
Best Recon: 2) Huginn/Rapier. Sorry I know a lot will disagree but it has some DPS, Webs are heavily nerfed and wont keep frigates at range unless you permamwd, and a very small drone bay. 1) Curse/Pilgrim. Decent for small and medium gangs. Useless for larger gangs.
Fixed. Unless you are saying a recon vs a single frigate can be called a fight.
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xxxak
Caldari O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.15 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Bai ZongTong Also i think OP knows a great deal about ships and it would be fun to 1v1 sometime.
I would be happy to duel you. Contact me in game.
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.04.15 18:17:00 -
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so, how much did the final e-bay bid go for?
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TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance
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Posted - 2009.04.15 18:48:00 -
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Thank you for your incredible insight into ships, I hope I may use this knowledge to do over 600 DPS per second.
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Korrakas
Caldari Legion of Ascension Beyond Ascension
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Posted - 2009.04.15 22:14:00 -
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i think you can fit for 600 DPS a sec-ahahahahahahahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
lol
Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't have holidays. I don't leave the forums unattended. I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
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Rilwar
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.04.15 23:02:00 -
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I would like to point something out here... THE FUNNY
---O-H--S-H-I-T---
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Khornne
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.16 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Rilwar I would like to point something out here... THE FUNNY
You were faster than me. :sadface:
-- Khornne's Teamspeak Server Service
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Allaera
Caldari Kisogo research group
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Posted - 2009.04.20 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Therran Promitz Your forgot Nightmare for best "ranged facemelter"
Not really as OP has already stated he doesn't fly T2 BS
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