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Agromos nulKaedi
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:03:00 -
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Okay so, you know, the Rifter is an awesome ship, but, uhm.. there are lots of other ships, mmkay?
Is there any thought of looking at the balance of the tech-1 frigates to make them a bit more balanced with each other, and removing some of the annoying quirks in their design?
Tristan is a fun ship but they need a significant (non-newb-friendly) bankroll to fit, does anyone even use the Amarr and Minnie missile boats at all? The light speed-frigates aren't able to fit a full standard tackler kit - they seem like perfect 'hey kid, go fly this junker and tackle some stuff for us until they swat you like the gnat you are' ships, but they can't fit the full normal tackler toolkit to do it. Does anyone even use the newbie mining frigates other than for the first few hours? They have oddly small cargo holds.. some of them are very pretty ships and I wish the hulls would be useful for something.. How many people use the T1 ewar frigates, for that matter?
Sure, I fully expect that people will grow out of frigates after awhile and start flying shinier t2 hulls and battleships, but it would be nice to see more variety in the puppy ships people actually chose to fly. |
Remistor Callaway
Talos Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:05:00 -
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so basically you want all the advantages of a t2 in a t1 huh? Without the training time and the price tag...
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Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:11:00 -
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waste of dev time
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:14:00 -
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Preliminary Inferno Balance Changes for Frigates.
I think it is a mistake. They should start with T1 Cruisers who are overshadowed currently by Battecruisers. Especially the Shield Cane which is faster then most non Minmatar Cruisers / Anything Armor with Neuts, more Guns and 2 Damage Bonus.
But it is a step in the right direction. |
Danel Tosh
EVE Protection Agency Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:16:00 -
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I think this is a valid opinion. T1 frigs need to be improved so that they can compete. most of the issues I have with them is that many cant fit all T2 mods without powergrid or cpu issues. hopefully we could see some changes to that with CPU rigs and such this summer. CCP said somthing about taking some of the former mining frigates and turning them into combat frigs. the tormentor is one of them i believe. |
Torneach
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:22:00 -
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It would be nice if every ship had some sort of role. As it stands, battlecruisers and T2 cruisers seem to rule the cluster. |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.05 03:07:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Preliminary Inferno Balance Changes for Frigates. I think it is a mistake. They should start with T1 Cruisers who are overshadowed currently by Battecruisers. Especially the Shield Cane which is faster then most non Minmatar Cruisers / Anything Armor with Neuts, more Guns and 2 Damage Bonus. But it is a step in the right direction.
Quite a logical step as far as I'm concerned. Start at the bottom and work your way up; that way you avoid problems with trying to fit something in where you don't have room because you have accidently capped a role or class by preventing it from competing with ships that fall into a category above it.
A systematic approach is always the best approach for this and other reasons. You can't just randomly select something and start tearing it apart without first taking a proper measurement of its position in relation to everything else. If you jump into the middle like that, you've eliminated perspective because you have nothing to base it on as all the rest will be changed later to somehow fit around that place where you started.
This result in things either becoming very messed up and horribly balanced, or in you going back and changing things that you did in one place to make room for things you need to do in another. Sometimes multiple times. It may not be ideal for these ships to be as they are now, but they have been that way for awhile and it is better to live with them temporarily than cut things up and make a mess of it.
At least I think so. Alliance Auction - EVE Rogues: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1215438#post1215438 |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 03:28:00 -
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Remistor Callaway wrote:so basically you want all the advantages of a t2 in a t1 huh? Without the training time and the price tag...
Congratulations on not reading the thread and making yourself look like a jerk.
He said he wanted all t1 frigates to be useful which is pretty much what everyone wants and what CCP is doing |
Tarn Kugisa
Space Mongolian Pinked
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Posted - 2012.05.05 04:51:00 -
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