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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Disaster Masters
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Posted - 2009.04.24 03:19:00 -
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Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 24/04/2009 03:20:53 Been practicing scrambling destroyers at a gate but every time even with very fast lock it says the "warp the target is doing is preventing" or "the warp scrambler deactivates as the target is not locked".
However looking at the alt I'm using hes taking approximately 5 seconds to enter warp which is a lot more then Im seeing on my end and should be an easy lock.
Is ping going to affect the warp time on my end? As in, if my ping is high I will get less of a window to scramble on my end.
Im thinking it goes like this:
1. (5 sec to warp)Target client (i am decloaking and warping) -> .5 sec Server 2. (4.5 sec to warp) Server (target) -> .5 sec My client 3. (4 sec to warp) (3 sec to scramble) (I am targetting and scrambling)My Client -> .5 Server
and so on till I get a scramble or till it warps out of range?
Yeah I know 500ms is a really high ping but I live in Australia and use a unwired service which is dictated by my employer.
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Amish Juggernaut
Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm Flailing Tube Research
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Posted - 2009.04.24 03:55:00 -
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Yes.
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Disaster Masters
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Posted - 2009.04.24 04:34:00 -
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Bad system then. Seriously need a war scripted interdiction sphere. Ganking Buddhist Nun |
Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.24 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona Bad system then. Seriously need a war scripted interdiction sphere.
Since CCP are very well aware of this, the system is 'working as intended'.
You are again railing against the fact that players often have an 'escape option'. War scriptable interdiction spheres merely will cause a mass dieout of targets in high-sec. Better lots of hard-to-catch targets than very few easy to catch ones.
Empire wars against unwilling targets are meant to be very frustrating.
Speaking of bad systems, alt scouts to use for spying and bypassing war mechanics as you do is a bad system. ____
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Disaster Masters
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Posted - 2009.04.24 06:52:00 -
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Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 24/04/2009 06:52:23 Who doesnt use alt scouts? destroyers or below should not be immune from warfare in any security. Ganking Buddhist Nun |
H Lecter
Gallente The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.04.24 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 24/04/2009 06:52:23 Who doesnt use alt scouts? destroyers or below should not be immune from warfare in any security.
They are not immune, just hard to catch if the pilot isn't stupid.
If you manage to land in smartbomb range with a battleship, locking time is not such an issue anymore.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.04.24 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona destroyers or below should not be immune from warfare in any security.
Pathetic. Of course they NEVER die in high sec do they? :eyeroll:
Try using your two non combat alts to remote sensor boost you.
A destroyer does not take 5 seconds to get to warp unless its plated up the wazoo.
You didn't even mention what ship you are trying this in.
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Disaster Masters
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Posted - 2009.04.24 09:33:00 -
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Im speaking specifically of the warp mechanics at gates in high sec with small ships. They are indeed immune to putting a point on them. Even with sensor boosting. Try it out. Ganking Buddhist Nun |
Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.04.24 10:24:00 -
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Way to not read or respond to a word I said.
REMOTE SENSOR BOOSTING
WHAT SHIP ARE YOU USING
YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG TRUST ME
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The Tzar
Malicious Intentions The Church.
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Posted - 2009.04.24 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona Im speaking specifically of the warp mechanics at gates in high sec with small ships. They are indeed immune to putting a point on them. Even with sensor boosting. Try it out.
Confirming that a double boosted HIC or even a BC catches most things.
If your not scramming them, fit more sensor boosters; locally or remotely. __________________________________________
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Th0rG0d
Caldari Pilots From Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2009.04.24 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Way to not read or respond to a word I said.
REMOTE SENSOR BOOSTING
WHAT SHIP ARE YOU USING
YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG TRUST ME
Must troll thread.....
Spank, she probably wont answer your questions because if you read here Cloaking 101 you see that
Originally by: Infinity Ziona Im much better then you are.
No sense trying to talk sense or question her methods... Sorry
And yes Ziona, I took the only relevant thing you said in that thread, and put it here. I am sure your attitude is still the same though And no, I am not going to add anything relevant to this thread, because you already know more then me
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.04.25 12:22:00 -
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Don't worry, I'm all over that thread too.
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.04.25 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona Im speaking specifically of the warp mechanics at gates in high sec with small ships. They are indeed immune to putting a point on them. Even with sensor boosting. Try it out.
It's a good thing that CCP is aware of this and is working on a fix...
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Disaster Masters
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Posted - 2009.04.25 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: The Tzar
Originally by: Infinity Ziona Im speaking specifically of the warp mechanics at gates in high sec with small ships. They are indeed immune to putting a point on them. Even with sensor boosting. Try it out.
Confirming that a double boosted HIC or even a BC catches most things.
If your not scramming them, fit more sensor boosters; locally or remotely.
Originally by: CCP Nozh
Originally by: Nichola Kreed damn it, another change that nerf solo and boost blob.
Actually, the agility was preventing solo pvp as targets were able to warp out before getting scrambled.
SOLO PVP ;) Someone tell me how to sensor boost myself pleeze. Ganking Buddhist Nun |
Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.04.25 17:47:00 -
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Edited by: Intigo on 25/04/2009 17:52:05 You are terrible, Infinity Ziona. Please do us a favour and do not post any more. :(
"Yes, I am better then you"
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Noddah Spah
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Posted - 2009.04.26 02:44:00 -
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Quote: Who doesnt use alt scouts?
I don't, but that's only because I like solo killing.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.04.26 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Noddah Spah
Quote: Who doesnt use alt scouts?
I don't, but that's only because I like solo killing.
I don't either. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic |
Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Disaster Masters
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Posted - 2009.04.27 13:32:00 -
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Blackbird - 3 x targetting systems subcontroller rigs, 4 x sensor booster II with scan res scripts - 1499 res
- can lock autopilot buzzard - cant lock autopilot condor - cant even begin to lock autopilot shuttle
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.04.27 15:13:00 -
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Quote:
- cant even begin to lock autopilot shuttle
So, I stupidly got podded by a WT caldari battleship in high sec because I setup autopilot on a shuttle and went taking a dump ( ). What magic did he work?
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Disaster Masters
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Posted - 2009.04.28 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Quote:
- cant even begin to lock autopilot shuttle
So, I stupidly got podded by a WT caldari battleship in high sec because I setup autopilot on a shuttle and went taking a dump ( ). What magic did he work?
Probably sensor boosted and you got unlucky n landed a little far from the gate. Lagspike? Smartbomb? Depends on your killmail. Ganking Buddhist Nun |
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.04.28 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona Blackbird - 3 x targetting systems subcontroller rigs, 4 x sensor booster II with scan res scripts - 1499 res
- can lock autopilot buzzard - cant lock autopilot condor - cant even begin to lock autopilot shuttle
quoting this for the lols
you are awear these things stack
PLEASE who ever you brought your character from just give it back.
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this....ill just copy paste this
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this
did you get the message?
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Disaster Masters
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Posted - 2009.04.30 08:02:00 -
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Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 30/04/2009 08:05:01
Originally by: Armoured C
Originally by: Infinity Ziona Blackbird - 3 x targetting systems subcontroller rigs, 4 x sensor booster II with scan res scripts - 1499 res
- can lock autopilot buzzard - cant lock autopilot condor - cant even begin to lock autopilot shuttle
quoting this for the lols
you are awear these things stack
PLEASE who ever you brought your character from just give it back.
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this....ill just copy paste this
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this
did you get the message?
Very aware they stack you moron. 1500 scan res should be enough to lock EVERY ship. Why? Because it effectively leaves my blackbird entirely defenseless. I trade ecm or shield for lock time. I get? Nothing for it.
I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP.
That enough for you?
Passive - having an alt scout. having a alt locate. having an alt probe.
Active - affecting a target ship with a module, bumping a target ship, moving a npc into a smartbomb of a target ship, anything that actively contributes to the target dying.
GET IT?
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Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.04.30 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 30/04/2009 08:05:01
Originally by: Armoured C
Originally by: Infinity Ziona Blackbird - 3 x targetting systems subcontroller rigs, 4 x sensor booster II with scan res scripts - 1499 res
- can lock autopilot buzzard - cant lock autopilot condor - cant even begin to lock autopilot shuttle
quoting this for the lols
you are awear these things stack
PLEASE who ever you brought your character from just give it back.
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this....ill just copy paste this
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this
did you get the message?
Very aware they stack you moron. 1500 scan res should be enough to lock EVERY ship. Why? Because it effectively leaves my blackbird entirely defenseless. I trade ecm or shield for lock time. I get? Nothing for it.
I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP.
That enough for you?
Passive - having an alt scout. having a alt locate. having an alt probe.
Active - affecting a target ship with a module, bumping a target ship, moving a npc into a smartbomb of a target ship, anything that actively contributes to the target dying.
GET IT?
No, you shouldn't be able to lock every ship ingame. Stop crying and if you want to kill Frigates that are running away go to 0.0.
You're terrible at PvP and a terrible poster on the forum. Why won't you just go away? You're like a louder Siigari. >_> |
Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Disaster Masters
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Posted - 2009.04.30 09:29:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: Infinity Ziona Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 30/04/2009 08:05:01
Originally by: Armoured C
Originally by: Infinity Ziona Blackbird - 3 x targetting systems subcontroller rigs, 4 x sensor booster II with scan res scripts - 1499 res
- can lock autopilot buzzard - cant lock autopilot condor - cant even begin to lock autopilot shuttle
quoting this for the lols
you are awear these things stack
PLEASE who ever you brought your character from just give it back.
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this....ill just copy paste this
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this
you need one of your "solo pvp alts" to get in a remote sensor boosting ship. i believe that either the onerios or the t1 version has bonuses for this
did you get the message?
Very aware they stack you moron. 1500 scan res should be enough to lock EVERY ship. Why? Because it effectively leaves my blackbird entirely defenseless. I trade ecm or shield for lock time. I get? Nothing for it.
I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP. I DO NOT ACTIVELY USE ALTS TO PVP.
That enough for you?
Passive - having an alt scout. having a alt locate. having an alt probe.
Active - affecting a target ship with a module, bumping a target ship, moving a npc into a smartbomb of a target ship, anything that actively contributes to the target dying.
GET IT?
No, you shouldn't be able to lock every ship ingame. Stop crying and if you want to kill Frigates that are running away go to 0.0.
You're terrible at PvP and a terrible poster on the forum. Why won't you just go away? You're like a louder Siigari. >_>
Yes, when you fit your ship for maximum sensor boosting to the point it has no offense or defense you should be able to lock any ship. This is obviously why the devs are going to change it.
As for your personal attacks not interested. As for going away, how about NO? |
Jan'z Kolna
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2009.04.30 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Yes, when you fit your ship for maximum sensor boosting to the point it has no offense or defense you should be able to lock any ship.
I guess you meant 'lock in time to tackle' , because you know, dampened dread can lock any ship .... eventually.
Anyway,if you were talking about tackle, that'd be simply dumb argument.Your BB with silly fit has scan res of ~1500mm, that's about 50% less than my seboed stiletto.
My inty can catch ships which are actively trying to get away , not autopiloting lol.
Seems you don't understand game mechanics... cruisers aren't for catching frigates , regardless of fit.That's job for interceptors, isn't name 'interceptor' a hint? You didn't notice high base scan res?
What would you use for hitting nails, hammer or screwdriver? Right tool for a job ,mate. ( in case you're wondering, it's hammer).
Think more, and please, don't come with ecm-fit merlin complaining it can't jam reliably.
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Disaster Masters
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Posted - 2009.04.30 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jan'z Kolna
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Yes, when you fit your ship for maximum sensor boosting to the point it has no offense or defense you should be able to lock any ship.
I guess you meant 'lock in time to tackle' , because you know, dampened dread can lock any ship .... eventually.
Anyway,if you were talking about tackle, that'd be simply dumb argument.Your BB with silly fit has scan res of ~1500mm, that's about 50% less than my seboed stiletto.
My inty can catch ships which are actively trying to get away , not autopiloting lol.
Seems you don't understand game mechanics... cruisers aren't for catching frigates , regardless of fit.That's job for interceptors, isn't name 'interceptor' a hint? You didn't notice high base scan res?
What would you use for hitting nails, hammer or screwdriver? Right tool for a job ,mate. ( in case you're wondering, it's hammer).
Think more, and please, don't come with ecm-fit merlin complaining it can't jam reliably.
your interceptor doesnt have an inherent ability to lock something other then scan res. Thus if I fit enough boosters on a battleship and got its scan res high enough it would lock as good as a inty. Thus you are wrong.
If you added a nice large weight to the end of that screw driver it'd function as a hammer as well.
Your inty with sensor booster cannot catch a shuttle with its 0 align time. Ganking Buddhist Nun |
Jan'z Kolna
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2009.04.30 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: Jan''z Kolna on 30/04/2009 14:49:33
Oh, you simply are argument-proof...
First ,you complained you can't catch stuff at gates.
Turned out you were trying to do it using Blackbird.
So your point is you want to be able to catch everything in your seboed BB. Choosing wrong tool for the job,then complaining it doesn't exactly work.
'because it's wrong' or 'because I want it ' is not an argument. Well, maybe it is - for a child.
We are fitting out ships weighing out gains and drawbacks. 1500 scan res on BB doesn't work and you have no ecm, no tank.... why not to abandon concept then?
But no, you chose to whine and demand change to game mechanics.
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Thus if I fit enough boosters on a battleship and got its scan res high enough it would lock as good as a inty. Thus you are wrong.
scan res high enough on BS?
FYI maelstrom, 6xSeBo /scan res script , all skills lvl 5 - scan res 465mm stiletto, no scan res mods, no skills whatsoever - scan res 925mm
thus , BS will never lock as good as inty thus I am right
unless you demand to change maelstrom to have 12 medslots , just for your convenience - you could then fit enough sensor boosters to barely match stiletto's base scan res
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Your inty with sensor booster cannot catch a shuttle with its 0 align time
imagine, it can.Not always, but it can.And first, you were talking about AUTOPILOTING shuttles, then you switched to alleged shuttle's 0sec align time. Talk about consistent argumentation....
BTW about hammers and screwdrivers - visit your daddy's shed sometime, check how it would work out
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Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.30 15:51:00 -
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Ziona,
We already have been through this before. If everyone can catch ships, everyone will catch ships, and those who don't want to be caught will stop playing.
The game intends for you to fail at what you are trying most of the time.
The game has some ways to force people to fight, and some ways for people to avoid fighting. The people that are escaping you have sacrificed the ability to fly larger ships same as you sacrificed some midslots on a Blackbird to try and catch people.
The status quo is and must be that wolves fail to catch most sheep, or else sheep will become extinct fast. |
FlyinS
Caldari Planetary Industry and Trade Organization
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Posted - 2009.04.30 16:47:00 -
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If you're "hunting" autopiloting ships why are you whining that you have no shield? Is someone off taking a shower going to fire back at you?
Seriously, do you listen to yourself?
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar Disaster Masters
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Posted - 2009.05.01 02:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jan'z Kolna Edited by: Jan''z Kolna on 30/04/2009 14:49:33
Oh, you simply are argument-proof...
First ,you complained you can't catch stuff at gates.
Turned out you were trying to do it using Blackbird.
So your point is you want to be able to catch everything in your seboed BB. Choosing wrong tool for the job,then complaining it doesn't exactly work.
'because it's wrong' or 'because I want it ' is not an argument. Well, maybe it is - for a child.
We are fitting out ships weighing out gains and drawbacks. 1500 scan res on BB doesn't work and you have no ecm, no tank.... why not to abandon concept then?
But no, you chose to whine and demand change to game mechanics.
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Thus if I fit enough boosters on a battleship and got its scan res high enough it would lock as good as a inty. Thus you are wrong.
scan res high enough on BS?
FYI maelstrom, 6xSeBo /scan res script , all skills lvl 5 - scan res 465mm stiletto, no scan res mods, no skills whatsoever - scan res 925mm
thus , BS will never lock as good as inty thus I am right
unless you demand to change maelstrom to have 12 medslots , just for your convenience - you could then fit enough sensor boosters to barely match stiletto's base scan res
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Your inty with sensor booster cannot catch a shuttle with its 0 align time
imagine, it can.Not always, but it can.And first, you were talking about AUTOPILOTING shuttles, then you switched to alleged shuttle's 0sec align time. Talk about consistent argumentation....
BTW about hammers and screwdrivers - visit your daddy's shed sometime, check how it would work out
Good god.
1. This BB is a test ship. 2. My target was my alt autopiloting. 3. The difference between a 0 align afk shuttle and a 0 align time piloted shuttle is . They are the same. 0 align time after jumping. 4. The battleship argument was theoretical. If it had a high enough scan res it would catch as well as an inty. The name battleship means squat if its sufficiently boosted. 4. Im not demanding to change game mechanics, they were being changed prior to this post being made. Travelling in a shuttle or frig in high sec will no longer mean your 100% safe. Yay Ganking Buddhist Nun |
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