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soapeee
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.04.24 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: soapeee on 24/04/2009 17:14:37
I know that a lot are unhappy with them in our systems. They do kill our Militia members so:
Should the minmatar kick them out? This will mean that we will have to fight them and destroy them to kick them out.
Minmatar Militia Vote now!
I vote yes
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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.04.24 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: soapeee Edited by: soapeee on 24/04/2009 17:14:37
I know that a lot are unhappy with them in our systems. They do kill our Militia members so:
Should the minmatar kick them out? This will mean that we will have to fight them and destroy them to kick them out.
Minmatar Militia Vote now!
I vote yes
No one will actively support this in here just incase they become the next targets. You have our support however. We are not afraid of them.
Just remember that Mirrorgod's alternative identity Jayden13 is now in the tribal liberation force and all your intel and discussions will be compromised.
Doesn't mean you can't get rid of them however. They are not exactly a force to be reckoned with, merely a mosquito that's landed on the arm of a giant..
While the giant is otherwise enganged he has not taken the time to swat the mosquito into the floor.
Keep poking the Giant, sooner or later he will take action.
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Graz'zt Khan
Minmatar Tribal Core
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Posted - 2009.04.24 19:42:00 -
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How many other threads about Heretics do we need to have?
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1053785&page=2
Is it possible to meld these together?
And another thing, you're not in the Minmatar Militia, please join first before you call for the militia to take action and make yourself part of it instead of watching from the sidelines. "That which does not kill you will make you stronger." - Nietzsche
"That which does not kill you may just leave you crippled, comatose, and in a nightmare of pain." - Graz'zt Khan |
Dame Death
Minmatar The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.04.24 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: soapeee Edited by: soapeee on 24/04/2009 17:14:37
I know that a lot are unhappy with them in our systems. They do kill our Militia members so:
Should the minmatar kick them out? This will mean that we will have to fight them and destroy them to kick them out.
Minmatar Militia Vote now!
I vote yes
I vote yes so the Heretic's get a good fight. Kick the minnies arse boys.
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soapeee
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.04.24 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Graz'zt Khan How many other threads about Heretics do we need to have?
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1053785&page=2
Is it possible to meld these together?
And another thing, you're not in the Minmatar Militia, please join first before you call for the militia to take action and make yourself part of it instead of watching from the sidelines.
... alt of milita
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Eran Mintor
Minmatar Stillwater Corporation
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Posted - 2009.04.25 02:12:00 -
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The Minmatar militia has had a long history of fighting pirates, and also harboring them. The most difficult time was when Red Box alliance was present in Huola and we had our hands full fighting both Amarr and Final Stand & company. I would say that was the most trying time for our militia yet, and what we experience now is just the aftermath. A lot of TLF pilots since then have left and moved on to "greener pastures" so to speak, where they feel more of a difference can be made by their actions. That is another discussion entirely...
The reason I bring up the old Red Box alliance is as follows: The truth is that the Matar forces have lost their focus and altered their dispositions. This internal problem began long before I retired but seems to have risen in severity in the time following my departure. I will not name-drop, but I found out just recently that one of the main militia corps actually set Heretics blue; a move that caused the newly formed militia alliance, "Kri'tak" to fall apart. This is unacceptable. The Tribal LIBERATION Front is a movement that was intended to free the enslaved populations in Amarr territory AND secure our own territories from enemies of the Minmatar! It has always been a mess of savages, pirates, and freedom fighters alike, but the difference now is there are no clear goals, unification, or leadership. The job is not being done, neither offensively nor defensively. Pirates roam uncontested and the Amarr press on our systems in Metropolis. I am ashamed simply put, and do feel partially responsible for allowing this to happen.
While in the militia, I pushed for corporations to put differences aside so that work could be done against the enemy instead of degrading into a civil war against our own. This seemed reasonable at the time, although today I believe I gave Mirror too much elbow-room that consequently allowed him to re-grow after the Nation was torn apart by a thief near the end of last year. He attempted to persuade the Minmatar by pleading he was loyal to our cause; that is a blatant lie. Mirror is loyal to no-one but himself and always will be. I can safely say this as I have known his character for some time, both from first-hand experience and insight that can only be given by his peers, or ex-lovers more specifically. He lives for nothing but blood-shed; race makes no difference. The reason he asks for Minmatar corporations to set him blue is to ensure that his fort in Amamake will be relatively secure, as a split militia is a force easily defeated. Don't allow him to make fools of yourselves, as I myself allowed him to do while I was enlisted.
The trash-heaps that fly under the banner of Heretic Nation are no more of a threat to the Minmatar than Red Box was months ago. In fact, I wouldn't be afraid to say they are a much lesser threat. They can be fought, they can be killed, they can be defeated like any other mortal; but only if you seek to strengthen your own collective minds first. The reports I've received about the current situation in our militia is dubious.
Remember brothers & sisters that no war is not easily won. A lost battle does not mean a lost war yet if you do not push hard you will crumble. If you truly hope to make your efforts worthwhile as I believe many capsuleers do, be resilient and unwavering. Do not give in to the pressures that will stray you from the righteous path. The presence of Heretics and the blockade they put on the Osoggur gate in Amamake is nothing new, but should you hope to rid yourselves of their stench you must regroup and sharpen your wits first. Do not cast aside the work that must be done elsewhere either. I know it seems overwhelming at times but you must press on.
Heretics are a fading dream of deception and destruction, their time will come soon enough.
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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.04.25 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Dame Death
Originally by: soapeee Edited by: soapeee on 24/04/2009 17:14:37
I know that a lot are unhappy with them in our systems. They do kill our Militia members so:
Should the minmatar kick them out? This will mean that we will have to fight them and destroy them to kick them out.
Minmatar Militia Vote now!
I vote yes
I vote yes so the Heretic's get a good fight. Kick the minnies arse boys.
I think you are slightly misguided in your perception of heretics. The reason they want so many blues from Minmatar is so that they dont have to fight.
Mirrorgod is well aware that if they joined forces against him he would be completely outgunned and his little tyranny in Amamake would end.
Like any Tyrant he hopes to rule by fear instead of respect. For those of us that know him, theres nothing to fear, the rest of the m Minmatar are somehow decieved into believing they are more of a threat than they really are.
Eran o/ Shame you didn't stick around. As you know The Final Stand is straight forward and straight up in their intentions. We don't have to lie about who and what we are. Sometimes the best people are the guns for hire, the ones that fight for your cause because they are employed to do so, those guns for hire are not confused by dirty politics or blinded by emotion when it comes to the fight.
The Final Stand is this in a nutshell. We have one objective when we fight. Kill the targets. We no longer pirate, we aren't interested in bolstering our battle data for the sake of numbers. We kill who we are supposed to kill and leave the rest to lazy ganker's and dirtbag's like Heretics.
The Minmatar should have embraced us when they had the chance. We were not only willing to help their cause but to unite them and train them properly. Eran has sadly pointed out the problem with anyone wishing to help their cause. The Minmatar are unable to unite against anyone as they remain self serving and live in fear of the simplest of entities they could easily dispatch with.
What you may not realise is that Heretics are barely in the same vicinity as the Amarr as far as quality of pilots. You all actively go out and fight them daily and yet you somehow feel afraid of someone like Mirrorgod and Heretic's because they are flashy red?? Or is it because Mirrorgod once used the Minmatar as a meatshield while promoting himself as the greatest FC in the Universe just because he had the loudest voice?
There are corps in Minmatar who prove every time they engage that Heretics are worthless, if the rest of you followed suit Heretics would no longer be holding Amamake ransom.
While you all sit there allowing him to infiltrate your fleets and garner intel so that he can bring Heretics behind said fleets and pick off the straglers you are never going to get anywhere.
Quite frankly, those of you that are blue to Heretic Nation should be ashamed of yourselves, you are not fighting for the Minmatar cause, you are adding to its demise.
When you lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas!
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Hoggs
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.04.25 10:03:00 -
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Edited by: Hoggs on 25/04/2009 10:03:58
Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
I think you are slightly misguided in your perception of heretics. The reason they want so many blues from Minmatar is so that they dont have to fight.
We've been true to our cause since the day we formed - We don't trust any government. Especially that of the Amarr. While we don't support the minmatar government, the freedom fighters are fighting the amarr, a 'cause we support. So yes, you're right. We don't want to fight them, for their sake. We will however defend ourselves if they decide to get in the way of our business. It's no problem.
Quote: Like any Tyrant he hopes to rule by fear instead of respect. For those of us that know him, theres nothing to fear, the rest of the Minmatar are somehow decieved into believing they are more of a threat than they really are.
I don't see them fearing us? MirrorGod's kindly offering blues to all milita enlisted corperations, why would you fear someone who does that?
Quote: As you know The Final Stand is straight forward and straight up in their intentions. We don't have to lie about who and what we are. Sometimes the best people are the guns for hire, the ones that fight for your cause because they are employed to do so, those guns for hire are not confused by dirty politics or blinded by emotion when it comes to the fight.
Wasn't it TFS who let the pirate crusade against the minmatar?
Quote: We no longer pirate, we aren't interested in bolstering our battle data for the sake of numbers.
Sorry, outright lie here. Every time your CEO posts on Galnet, it's something about kill statistics.
Quote: The Minmatar should have embraced us when they had the chance. We were not only willing to help their cause but to unite them and train them properly. Eran has sadly pointed out the problem with anyone wishing to help their cause. The Minmatar are unable to unite against anyone as they remain self serving and live in fear of the simplest of entities they could easily dispatch with.
Again, was't it TFS who led the pirate crusade against the minmatar? Why do you think they should trust you?
Quote: What you may not realise is that Heretics are barely in the same vicinity as the Amarr as far as quality of pilots. You all actively go out and fight them daily and yet you somehow feel afraid of someone like Mirrorgod and Heretic's because they are flashy red??
Again, why should they be afraid of us? We don't want to ruin their cause, unfortunately our place of business is amamake, which has nothing to do with the militia basing there. Best we can do is offer them blue standings.
Quote: Or is it because Mirrorgod once used the Minmatar as a meatshield while promoting himself as the greatest FC in the Universe just because he had the loudest voice?
MirrorGod never once spoke of himself in such a manner.
Quote: There are corps in Minmatar who prove every time they engage that Heretics are worthless, if the rest of you followed suit Heretics would no longer be holding Amamake ransom.
Oh? Also, I wasn't aware we were holding amamake ransom. We live here.. Offering free blues to the militia wouldn't be a very good way to ransom now, would it?
Quote: Quite frankly, those of you that are blue to Heretic Nation should be ashamed of yourselves, you are not fighting for the Minmatar cause, you are adding to its demise.
What's your point? We don't fight for the minmatar cause. They fight for the minmatar cause. We're simply doing what we can to not get in their way. Unfortunately we also live in amamake.
Quote: When you lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas!
Uh, sure~
(Posting was probably a waste of time, you'll simply ignore what I've said and find something else to rant about~)
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Angry Fist
Minmatar Tribal Core
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Posted - 2009.04.25 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Eran Mintor I will not name-drop, but I found out just recently that one of the main militia corps actually set Heretics blue; a move that caused the newly formed militia alliance, "Kri'tak" to fall apart. This is unacceptable.
To be clear, Eran is referring to my corp, Tribal Core here. Let me set the record straight on a sequence of events that seem to be so misunderstood.
The Kri'tak Minmatar militia alliance fell apart for various reasons, but the Heretics were indeed the catalyst for its final demise. They were still in the militia at the time and causing trouble. A vote was called in the alliance to wardec them and force them out of the militia. Because of Tribal Core's history with the Heretics we voted against the wardec, preferring to solve the issues via negotiation instead.
We lost the vote, but attempted to stall the wardec in a last ditch attempt to avert a civil war amongst the militia. An internal militia wardec was so utterly counter to everything we stood for we knew we had to fight as hard as possible to prevent going down that route. Ultimately though we would've sided with the other alliance corps and respected the vote no matter the cost.
Alas, the other alliance corps grew impatient and left the alliance, and some even the militia, before we had a chance to exhaust our last diplomatic options.
Subsequent to this the Heretics did actually leave the militia and offer to set standings to all Minmatar militia corps and we set blue to them to avoid unfortunate accidents. We maintain this NAP with them to this day.
I don't think it is an exaggeration to say Tribal Core is the Minmatar militia corp most sympathetic to the Heretics, but even our patience grows thin. Continued aggression against TLF pilots and the blockading of vital systems in Minmatar space is not something we will tolerate for much longer.
We lost an entire alliance through giving the Heretics the benefit of the doubt before. We will not make such mistakes again. Dazzle us with your cooperative attitude or prepare to say goodbye to Amamake.
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Marcos Dirritu
Minmatar Fearless Scouts
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Posted - 2009.04.25 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Hoggs They fight for the minmatar cause. We're simply doing what we can to not get in their way. Unfortunately we also live in amamake.
I'd like to put emphasis on this.
Heretics do what they can to not get into the way of the militia, while living right in the central supply route for the war.
MirrorGod promised quite a while ago to move to Huola to pirate there. First when Red Box was around there, to help the militia fight them. Then, when his presence in Amamake meant that his pilots were firing more on Minmatar Militia pilots than Amarr Militia pilots, despite his best promises that that was not the case.
Now, of course, if Heretics do what they can to not get into the way of the militia, this means that they are sadly not organized enough to relocate their base of operations by three jumps.
Sorry to hear so.
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Ophey Won
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.04.25 13:03:00 -
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Dear Minmatar Militia
There is a very easy way to avoid all this trouble. Have all pilots join player based corp that has blues with Heretics. Or have your corp seek blues with Heretics. Its that easy. Any one who is willing to do this will find no problem getting in or out of Amamake.
Second, Any Minmatar Militia corp that has blues with us and needs help taking out a Amarr fleet has but to ask us for help. We would be more then happy to help you eliminate any force that stand against you.
Here is the question you have to ask your self. If you where able to remove Heretics from Amamake would the next pirate corp that moves in be willing to do the same for the Militia corps?
Love us or hate us dose not matter. We are more then willing to allow the Minmatar Militia to do there jobs and even help when need if they seek blues with us. Believe it or not, we do not do this to help our selfs but to help you. Fewer targets never helps a pirate corp.
I am not a diplomat and may have spoken out of turn. But I am only repeating what I have heard MirrorGod say before.
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TorrusTron
Caldari Taiidan Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.25 15:30:00 -
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dont vote. Fight!!
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Sophie Starsparrow
Minmatar Cwn Annwn Clan Independent Faction
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Posted - 2009.04.25 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Hoggs
We've been true to our cause since the day we formed - We don't trust any government. Especially that of the Amarr. While we don't support the minmatar government, the freedom fighters are fighting the amarr, a 'cause we support. So yes, you're right. We don't want to fight them, for their sake. We will however defend ourselves if they decide to get in the way of our business. It's no problem.
If this was true, you would not fire on Militia neutrals unless attacked first. You have made clear your intention is to shoot all TLF members that are not blue to you. This is the part I am having trouble with. Not firing on Militia members unless attacked is in line with what you say you want, and takes into account that there are undesirable elements in the militia. Instead, you have announced you will fire on any who have not bowed down to you. And so-called "Defenders of the Republic" defend your right to do it.
The Militia forces are on the brink of civil war. This could easily be avoided if Heretics would simply change their policy to allow firing only on those Militia pilots that 'get in their way.' Instead, it has been turned into a power grab, an attempt to make the militia subservient to Heretics.
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Teddy Tazer
Minmatar Vard School of Cryo Cuisine
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Posted - 2009.04.25 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: Teddy Tazer on 25/04/2009 18:06:05 Even though I think this just another attempt by the amarr to convince minmatar miltia to turn on it's allies, I will vote. NO.. Heretics might not be the nicest folk in the warzone, but they do kill other pirates/mercs/militants that wouldnt hesitate to pop a minmatar militia ship.
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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.04.25 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ophey Won Dear Minmatar Militia
There is a very easy way to avoid all this trouble. Have all pilots join player based corp that has blues with Heretics. Or have your corp seek blues with Heretics. Its that easy. Any one who is willing to do this will find no problem getting in or out of Amamake.
Second, Any Minmatar Militia corp that has blues with us and needs help taking out a Amarr fleet has but to ask us for help. We would be more then happy to help you eliminate any force that stand against you.
Here is the question you have to ask your self. If you where able to remove Heretics from Amamake would the next pirate corp that moves in be willing to do the same for the Militia corps?
Love us or hate us dose not matter. We are more then willing to allow the Minmatar Militia to do there jobs and even help when need if they seek blues with us. Believe it or not, we do not do this to help our selfs but to help you. Fewer targets never helps a pirate corp.
I am not a diplomat and may have spoken out of turn. But I am only repeating what I have heard MirrorGod say before.
If this were the case your actions would prove this instead of your data records being littered with Minmatar Militia kills. You would not have spies in the Minmatar Militia so that you can follow their fleets around and attack those fleets. This has happened often and there is no denying it.
People are not stupid. As much as you, Mirrorgod and his lap dog want to try and sugar coat things and divert people from the devious intent you so obviously have, people are starting to wise up.
Its not hard to put Militia in an overview, if Heretics were truely supporting the Minmatar cause they would not be ganking Minmatar Militia as it came through the Osoggur gate. You have neutral scouts on the Osoggur side so dont even pretend you dont know what targets are coming through, your pilots shoot everyone they can.
Mirrorgod has always been one for saying one thing and doing another. He is unable to stick to his word because his main objective is feathering his own nest and propping up his own ego.
Yes Hoggs I ignore you. Why? Because you are a lap dog that runs the data statistics and for the entire time Heretics were in faction war you were planetside. You simply voice an opinion based on what you are told by Mirrorgod and nothing else. So most of what you say is worthless propaganda and not worth bothering with. This will be the first and last time I address you, I will not dignify your drivel with rebuttal's when I know you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
The Final Stand did not lead an assault based solely on the Minmatar when they were pirates, they shot and killed everyone, just like Heretics do. Unlike Heretics, we do not shoot our blues. Heretics however shot their blues four times during their stint in the Pirate Coalition, hence why they were removed from it. The Final Stand does not try and convince people their intentions are one thing whilst doing another.
Trying to convince people we are as bad as Heretics is ridiculous. We no longer pirate as we have numerous contracts and high sec war dec's running each week. Were we to pirate we would not be able to conduct these war dec's in high sec. You can try and convince people till you are blue in the face that The Final Stand are low life s****bags like yourselves, our record, our data boards and our clients think otherwise.
The Final Stand pride themselves on sticking to their word. That is who and what we are. When we say we will do something, no matter how long it takes, we will do it.
If Heretics had even 1/4 the integrity and honour my corp has, there wouldn't be discussions like this about Heretics on Galnet.
Time you woke up and realised that.
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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.04.25 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: MirrorGod Nothing of value will ever be lost or gained in this war aside from violence, chaos and the glory of slaughtering your enemies. Once that wears off (or, in my case, ceases to be in great enough volume to make it worth while), You'll realize that occupying another factions systems is rather meaningless. But do carry on.
Now that sums up Mirrorgods views and intentions. He is not interested in the Minmatar cause anymore than I am interested in playing the Cello. He wants as many targets as he can get his hands on with the least amount of resistance so that he can Rule a low sec system he belives is his own.
If you take the time to filter through his Alliance data records you will also see that there are far more Minmatar militia deaths than there are Amarr deaths recorded.
But those of you that are still afraid of this idiot can keep on supporting the destruction of your own faction if you must.
Interesting point to take note of. When Heretic's and Outbreak first joined the Militia there were several large pirate corps in Amamake, between them and the Militia they cleaned that system out of pirates and it was a rather safe place for Minmatar Militia to be for a very long time. It wouldn't take much to make it so again.
Funny how now the protector becomes the one doing all the damage. I often wonder if this was not Heretic's intention all along. They had been run out of every other system they had been in up until this point. Now they have cleverly devised a plan to keep themselves reasonably safe from eviction by having half the area blue.
Food for thought?
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Ophey Won
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.04.25 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Ophey Won on 25/04/2009 20:03:11 Who the hell are you Ms. Goddess. You have never been in Heretics. How do you know what MirrorGods intentions are. You sure would like people to hate Heretics that is clear from your post here. The real question is why. Why should the Militia take your or your corps word for any thing. I agree they can decide for them selfs. Some may remember what it was like when the final stand was roaming in the war zone.
This comes down to one thing. If the Militia member wish to move around in the war zone, and not worry about Heretics or even to have us help them. All they have to do is seek blues with us.
Heretics Is anti government. The most tyrannical government out there is the Amarr. We stand opposed to the Amarr the most. Their for we give support to privately own corps fighting the Amarr. We will not support government run corps.
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Ophey Won
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.04.25 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: BloodSoaked Goddess
Originally by: MirrorGod Nothing of value will ever be lost or gained in this war aside from violence, chaos and the glory of slaughtering your enemies. Once that wears off (or, in my case, ceases to be in great enough volume to make it worth while), You'll realize that occupying another factions systems is rather meaningless. But do carry on.
Now that sums up Mirrorgods views and intentions. He is not interested in the Minmatar cause anymore than I am interested in playing the Cello. He wants as many targets as he can get his hands on with the least amount of resistance so that he can Rule a low sec system he belives is his own.
If you take the time to filter through his Alliance data records you will also see that there are far more Minmatar militia deaths than there are Amarr deaths recorded.
But those of you that are still afraid of this idiot can keep on supporting the destruction of your own faction if you must.
Interesting point to take note of. When Heretic's and Outbreak first joined the Militia there were several large pirate corps in Amamake, between them and the Militia they cleaned that system out of pirates and it was a rather safe place for Minmatar Militia to be for a very long time. It wouldn't take much to make it so again.
Funny how now the protector becomes the one doing all the damage. I often wonder if this was not Heretic's intention all along. They had been run out of every other system they had been in up until this point. Now they have cleverly devised a plan to keep themselves reasonably safe from eviction by having half the area blue.
Food for thought?
The Funny thing is it was the final stand who tried to bring in the United to try to take over Amamake. United is a pirate corp. Did you forget that Ms. Goddess. I do remember seeing both TFS and United camping gates in the area.
Secondly as far as MirrorGods comments about the faction war and who is winning or if their can be a winner. I do think he was talking about the way system are taken. Everyone who has been in faction war know that the taking of systems mean little or nothing in the war. It take week or even mouths to take a system and dose not help you in any way. The problem with faction war is there is no objective. No matter how many systems you take or how many ships you kill there is no end in site. If that where to change you might see more people joining the war.
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Neu Bastian
Minmatar Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2009.04.25 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ophey Won
Heretics Is anti government. The most tyrannical government out there is the Amarr. We stand opposed to the Amarr the most.
Yet, you camp the Ossogur gate while the forces of Amarr amass in a single-station system 4 jumps away. Your words are empty.
And for everyone else reading who cares, frankly: shoot them, avoid them, or bow to them; but DO. Talk is cheap, so is democracy.
Neu
Quote:
Neu Bastian Valklear Guard - CEO
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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.04.25 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Neu Bastian
Originally by: Ophey Won
Heretics Is anti government. The most tyrannical government out there is the Amarr. We stand opposed to the Amarr the most.
Yet, you camp the Ossogur gate while the forces of Amarr amass in a single-station system 4 jumps away. Your words are empty.
And for everyone else reading who cares, frankly: shoot them, avoid them, or bow to them; but DO. Talk is cheap, so is democracy.
Neu
^^This
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.04.25 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Neu Bastian
Yet, you camp the Ossogur gate while the forces of Amarr amass in a single-station system 4 jumps away. Your words are empty.
And for everyone else reading who cares, frankly: shoot them, avoid them, or bow to them; but DO. Talk is cheap, so is democracy.
Neu
When our scouts detect amarr fleets camping the TLF headquaters station, we often scare them off. Three or more times a night we'll stop into kamela to find the Amarr fleet passive and docked.
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TheBlackFleet
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Posted - 2009.04.26 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: TheBlackFleet on 26/04/2009 00:11:48
Lets take a look at the statistics:
Hairyticks have killed 37 Minmatar ships since the 20th of this month and have only killed 19 Amarr ships since the 20th of this month...
Minmatar Losses from her
Amarr Losses from her
Now who are the hairyticks suppose to be shooting? Amarr? I think not! from the numbers its Minmatar!
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Evanda Char
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.04.26 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ophey Won Dear Minmatar Militia
There is a very easy way to avoid all this trouble. Have all pilots join player based corp that has blues with Heretics. Or have your corp seek blues with Heretics. Its that easy. Any one who is willing to do this will find no problem getting in or out of Amamake.
Would it not be just as easy for you to check who you are engaging before you shoot them?
-Eva-
Electus Matari - taking it one bad guy at a time |
Ophey Won
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.04.26 00:25:00 -
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we do. If they are not blue we shoot. it that easy.
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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.04.26 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ophey Won we do. If they are not blue we shoot. it that easy.
In other words, you do not give a rats ar** about the Minmatar cause or shooting the Amarr as everyone is stating so clearly.
Heretics just wants to run a dictatorship in Amamake so they feel like they are important and have everyone kissing their rear ends whilst still killing everything else they can.
Stop posting Heretics. We all know what you are made of and only the stupid people reading this think you are even remotely genuine.
Mirrorgod is scared out of his mind that the Minmatar would turn on him and stop his little operation in Amamake, because without all these blues he would have been wiped out long ago.
It's only a matter of time before people start wising up and turn on you MG, I hope your ego doesn't stop you from being prepared logistically for that day.
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Sophie Starsparrow
Minmatar Cwn Annwn Clan Independent Faction
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Posted - 2009.04.26 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ophey Won This comes down to one thing. If the Militia member wish to move around in the war zone, and not worry about Heretics or even to have us help them. All they have to do is seek blues with us.
Yes, it does come down to this one thing. They need to ask your permission? Not the TLF's or the Republic's or Shakor's? Yours?
I have finally realized what has been bothering me about all this. It is backwards. Heretics should be asking the Militia corps for blue standing, not the other way around.
37-19? Really? Interesting.
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Hoggs
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.04.26 02:31:00 -
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Edited by: Hoggs on 26/04/2009 02:32:24 Alright, let's clear something up here. We're pirates. We shoot anything that's not blue. We will not set anyone blue who will not return thr favour. Blues shooting us is enough reason to set them neutral and shoot back. TLF is government run, and will never set us blue, as such, we will not support this corperation, and will not treat them as blue.
Comprehende?
BloodSoaked, for someone who's never met mirrorgod in his life, you seem to think you know alot about him. To everyone here, I'd say it's quite safe to say you're only stating hate-induced assumptions. Keep posting, there's no doubt every time you post, we move furthur from Amamake!
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Esna Pitoojee
Amarr TalCorp Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.04.26 03:03:00 -
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You reap what you sow; Heretics were allowed into you territory, and now you find that they have 'misrepresented' themselves.
A quick look into their history would have found that the Heretics are friendly to no one but themselves. ----------------------------------------------
Say "Amarr ships suk, lol." I dare you.
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Vincent Death
Caldari K Directorate
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Posted - 2009.04.26 03:12:00 -
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I do not understand why Heretic Nation are so wrong in their actions. They are taking a course which they believe to be profitable and in their own best interests. They have no responsibility or duty to adhere to some loosely defined cause. The only cause that you should follow is your own. If enough pilots feel that it is in their best interests to remove Heretic Nation, then they will be removed.
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BloodSoaked Goddess
Amarr THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.04.26 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: TheBlackFleet Edited by: TheBlackFleet on 26/04/2009 00:17:17
Lets take a look at the statistics:
Hairyticks have killed 37 Minmatar ships since the 20th of this month and have only killed 19 Amarr ships since the 20th of this month...
Minmatar Losses from hairyticks
Amarr Losses from hairyticks
Now who are the hairyticks suppose to be shooting? Amarr? I think not! from the numbers its Minmatar!
It doesn't matter how many facts you produce, Heretics will make 100 times the excuses, accuse people of feeding hate filled propaganda into Galnet against them, the usual.
Notice in all those kills the majority are actually corps and not the tribal liberation force, most of those corps not prepared to pander to the tyranny of a lowlife pirate or not even knowing who he is.
Their excuses are flawed, their reasoning flawed and the more they try and turn the facts around and divert from the reality of what they do, the more people start to realise just how hypocritical and devious Heretics are.
It would seem that Hoggs views on being anti government don't quite fit into the reality of their actions. You can't force people into blue'ing you just because you think they should, so your ego increases.
Start getting real. You can accuse me of having personal agenda's all you want to, if you keep choosing to ignore the posts from other people saying the same things, you are just making a fool of yourself. Sadly for you the majority also realise you are attempting to do a lot of damage control as your devious plans seep away from you and people stand up against you.
Perhaps it is time for Heretics to start telling the truth, start living up to their word and stop bs'ing everyone just so you can carry on doing whatever you want to do.
Politics and democracy be damned, the clear cut solution here is for Heretics to man up and actually support the cause they say they support or move to another area where they are killing the people they say they want to kill.
Oh wait...... You are still counting on half these people not blue'ing you so that you can still kill them and bolster your kill stats. If you left the security of your safety blanket in Amamake where you can gate camp all day long, whatever would your pilots do with themselves?
How silly of me........
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