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bw8
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Posted - 2009.04.29 20:56:00 -
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I've been a part of, and seen other people be a part of, strange lag events, desync, and many other weird anomolies that just shouldn't happen normally.
The strangest thing though, is that in most every case where a petition was filed for reimbursement, with player logs, screenshots, fraps, etc, the answer was almost always "Sorry for your loss, the logs show nothing".
On the tail of a reaaaalllly laggy, desync'd fight in a lowsec system with only about 80 people in local, a few mates lost ships due to nobody being able to activate remote armor repair systems. We know it happened, the enemy knew it happened, but still no reimbursements were given.
I've been reading and it seems that reimbursements are only given when losses occur outside of normal game mechanics. What sort of events do the logs show? Only normal game mechanics?
So, my main question: How are we supposed to prove that something did or did not happen, outside of normal game mechanics, when no proof that we can submit will be accepted?
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Tunmarr
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Posted - 2009.04.29 20:58:00 -
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You cant, give up all hope now. There is no point.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.29 20:59:00 -
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Simple, you arent supposed to proof anything. You tell them what happened, and they can check their logs.
Now if people would stop petitioning stupid things then it would be even better. ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Sleepkevert
Amarr Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.04.29 21:01:00 -
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What you really should be asking is in what cases can you file a reimbursement petition. I can tell you one thing, lag sure isn't one of them.
Lag is specificly mentioned in the reimbursement policy as non-reimbursable. _
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bw8
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Posted - 2009.04.29 21:15:00 -
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Edited by: bw8 on 29/04/2009 21:16:01 what i'm saying is...what exactly *do* or *don't* the magical logs show???
i'm not saying CCP should bare all, but at least some sort of idea...mistrust is a bad thing i think.
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Jinx Barker
Caldari GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2009.04.29 22:20:00 -
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Usually the "logs show nothing."
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.29 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jinx Barker Usually the "logs show nothing that is grounds for a reimbursement."
Fixed. ______________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.04.29 23:00:00 -
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"The game is working as intended." Obviously what I say isn't always what my alliance thinks. I hate to break it to you, but this is in fact my signature. |
Gunner Cid
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2009.04.30 00:32:00 -
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I got podded in highsec by sentries, lost a fair chunk of isk worth of implants.
I respawned in my station but did not have to update my clone or anything, it didn't "consume" my clone but it took all my implants.
Filed petition, everything was put back in my hangar within 24 hours. Was really simple.
Based off of that and what I have read about others, the only time I think they will reimburse you is when the game does something it shouldn't, like sentries podding you.
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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.04.30 00:37:00 -
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It's very, very difficult for them to reimburse PVP losses tbh.
How would you feel if you'd killed someone's ship and they had it back the next day, especially if you'd taken losses killing it?
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Corelous Alterrian
Amarr Beyond Evil and Good United Star Federation
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Posted - 2009.04.30 01:30:00 -
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How many GM's does it take to change a lightbulb?
None the logs show there was nothing wrong with the light and it is working as intended.
((Sound familier? Its the same ole line which means, We don't know what we are doing and your lucky this game works as good as it does))
Lag sucks, Peitions blow, and unless your BOB your not getting squat from CCP.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.04.30 02:06:00 -
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The logs permanently show nothing
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.30 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Jinx Barker Usually the "logs show nothing that is grounds for a reimbursement."
Fixed.
Quoting myself for emphasis. ______________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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