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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.30 13:20:00 -
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On May 15th, a year will have passed since New Eden - all of New Eden, Caldari and Jaijin alike - watched in horror as the FNS Wandering Saint, piloted by Admiral Alexander Noir, crushed our hopes for peace. I personally consider it miraculous that the war did not start then and there.
In any case, that date is almost upon us: it is just over a fortnight away as I write this. To this date, the Ishukone HQ still burns in orbit, showing no signs of going out just yet.
I'd like to remind all Caldari citizens of this important event, and I believe it only fitting that we hold a vigil and tribute, much as we do yearly at Caldari Prime.
Considering the heated arguments that tainted the most recent Caldari Prime memorial, I must ask that all who attend leave their politics at the Stargate. We are gathering to remember the hundreds of thousands who died there, the millions who have died as a result, the death of the peace process that could have steered us to a brighter future, and the deaths of Otro Gariushi and Wadis Chen.
I am personally inclined to invite Gallenteans and Federal loyalists to the event as well, considering that this event shaped both our nations. I appreciate, however, that this would be deeply controversial, and therefore find myself forced to discourage - though obviously I am powerless to forbid - attendance by Federation-aligned pilots.
I propose that the vigil should begin at 2100 hours EST, though that is subject to change if a sufficiently good reason can be found.
Thanks for your time, pilots - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
Nicole Eisenfaust
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.04.30 13:27:00 -
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I'll be there for sure.
If anyone would like to attend but can't for any reason, join us on the frequency some of us were using on the day 'Malkalen Relief'.
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.30 13:33:00 -
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I will attend in spirit, for during that time I shall be planetside in Lonetrek with my Caldari family.
May we come together to remember the lives lost, and unite in prayer that one day peace will again reign.
Long live the Federation! Long live the State!
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.04.30 14:59:00 -
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I won't be attending, Verin. You know the reasons why. I wish that I could offer my support on site.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2009.04.30 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher I propose that the vigil should begin at 2100 hours EST, though that is subject to change if a sufficiently good reason can be found.
Sadly, 2100 Eve Standard makes attendance by many on different time cycles challenging. I am currently gauging interest within LDIS in attending and may be able to provide a time that makes a larger attendance possible.
Also please let us know if there is something LDIS can provide to ensure event success. We will refrain from speaking at the event unless asked to do so.
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.30 17:12:00 -
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As I said, I'd like to leave politics at the door, but other than that I have no objections to speeches being made.
the proposed time is subject to change if it's inconvenient for too many pilots, so do please let me know when would be more convenient for LDIS. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
William Ytiri
YTiRi Retail
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Posted - 2009.04.30 22:56:00 -
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... the death of the peace process that could have steered us to a brighter future, ...
If that is your definition of leaving politics at the stargate we could be in for some awesome fireworks; Otherwise a commendable effort and supported by Ytiri.
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.01 00:24:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 01/05/2009 00:28:50 Please don't get pedantic with me pilot, not now. I did say "COULD" have led us etc. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
Gorion Wassenar
Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.05.01 02:38:00 -
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*Gorion laughs* Not so easy is it. Such as is it now that regardless of your intentions those on both sides will turn you into whatever straw man that they need because they don't give a damn of the actual human costs of the tragedy that occurred that day. On that day we lost the chance to halt the juggernaut of paranoia, greed, fear, and ignorance to ramming their agenda down the cluster's throat.
So on that day I will mourn in respectful silence at a distance to better not distract them from the enormity of the sight before them.
But after that I will return to being an active antagonist to that juggernaut. Because silence is the sound of you doing nothing to stop this madness that had engulfed us. ----- *results may vary*
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.01 09:26:00 -
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You can't build upwards without reinforcing the ground you're working on. If we want to discuss the political ramifications of Malkalen, then we have private comms channels - like the Heiian College - for that purpose, and I'm always up for a good debate on those channels after the memorial. Or even before it; just not during.
Silence is the sound of remembrance, but it is also the sound of contemplation and thought, Wassenar-haan. And if there's one lesson this year thus far has firmly driven through my thick skull, it's that sometimes you have to drop out of the Kigurosaka mentality of "flowing with the stream" and actually think before you act. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
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Kimochi Rendar
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.05.01 09:44:00 -
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Has it been a year already? My, the time has flown...
Since I am not Caldari, nor have I lost any friends or family to the Malkalen incident, I shall not be attending the vigil. However you do have my support, Verin... I only hope you have some success in persuading attendees to keep things civil.
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Graelyn
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.05.01 11:17:00 -
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Do we know more about the motives of this crazed war-hungry Admiral?
To think that the 'peace-loving' Gallente and the 'oppressed' Matari-Eldar forces would choose to break a Century of Peace....and what have they to show for it?? A Titan in orbit in Luminaire, the loss of swathes of space in the Federation, and now a collapsing front for the Matari in Metropolis....
I only hope Historians document this debacle for all times, and that future warmongering tribes see fit to learn from it.
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Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2009.05.01 14:41:00 -
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Arguing with Gorion will get you nowhere, Hatakain-haan. The man took leave of his senses two a half years ago and has yet to regain them. There is no value in currying the favor of those so deluded or bitter that they cannot see reason.
I am not sure I will be able to attend, my friend, conditions at the front being what they are; but my thoughts will be with the corporation that day, rest assured. Let us hope this year is a more auspicious one than the last. -- CAPT Svetlana Scarlet CAIN Chief of Diplomatic Staff
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2009.05.01 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher You can't build upwards without reinforcing the ground you're working on. If we want to discuss the political ramifications of Malkalen, then we have private comms channels - like the Heiian College - for that purpose, and I'm always up for a good debate on those channels after the memorial. Or even before it; just not during.
Completing divorcing politics from the memorial will prove difficult; what you (or I) may consider to be politically neutral comment, others may take to be a political comment. As an example related to Ytiri-haan's comment; some of us consider a positive result out of the summit to have been an optimistic long shot at best. However, we have different views on what a positive result would mean or include.
I think it is possible to minimize the intra-State political differences; however it is likely someone will find anything we say to be politically offensive. Progress with the recovery and reorganization of Ishukone and the State is likely offensive to those who would rather see anarchy and chaos.
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Davion Vrynn
Caldari Aperture Harmonics APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.05.01 17:30:00 -
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While I do not regret my decision to leave the troubles of galactic politics behind and turn my eyes toward exploration and enterprise, I do still feel sadness for those whose lives were taken or forever scarred by the events of that day.
If it is possible for me to attend the memorial, and the wormholes out of genesis prove cooperative, I will make every effort to be there to mourn the sacrifice ---
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William Ytiri
YTiRi Retail
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Posted - 2009.05.01 18:14:00 -
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We are all podpilots in this summit. We cannot experience in full what the victims of the Malkalen Atrocity felt, ... those last moments before true death.
I suggest a completely silent procession in our pods and a general selfdestruct sequence at the site to come spiritually close in feeling the pain, agony and sadness of the victims last moments.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.05.01 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: William Ytiri We are all podpilots in this summit. We cannot experience in full what the victims of the Malkalen Atrocity felt, ... those last moments before true death.
I suggest a completely silent procession in our pods and a general selfdestruct sequence at the site to come spiritually close in feeling the pain, agony and sadness of the victims last moments.
And leave a bunch of naked, frozen corpses drifting through space in our wake? I suppose that would invoke the horrors of war nicely, but it also comes off as a bit of a mockery: a pack of quasi-immortals playing at death.
Verin, I'm afraid I'll be unable to attend in person for the usual "I'm a pirate" sorts of reasons, but I may be able to send a representative.
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.01 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: William Ytiri We are all podpilots in this summit. We cannot experience in full what the victims of the Malkalen Atrocity felt, ... those last moments before true death.
I suggest a completely silent procession in our pods and a general selfdestruct sequence at the site to come spiritually close in feeling the pain, agony and sadness of the victims last moments.
I'd have said we're better equipped to understand that moment better than any other living souls in New Eden, personally.
Absolutely not, pilot. I will not condone dishonouring the solemnity of the event with some macabre pantomime version of those peoples' murders via ritual suicide. It's twisted that you'd even suggest it.
We will be there to remember, to reflect, and to honour, as living, mourning Caldari, not as flagellant Infomorphs. We will NOT be there to engage in some symbolic but morbid stunt that'd just make us look even weirder than the press already makes us out to be. I personally will also be praying, but that's not a matter for the comm channels.
Nederland-haan - I appreciate that political neutrality is basically impossible, but my thinking on the matter is that if we aim for an impossibly high standard, we're at least guaranteed to hit a high mark even if we don't get the one we were after. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
Vikarion
Caldari White Rose Society
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Posted - 2009.05.01 21:41:00 -
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Two questions.
1. Are Caldari pilots of other factions welcome to attend? (Such as Ghost Festival, Naqam, WRS, and etc.)
2. Do you expect any of Star Fraction's usual glory-seeking interference?
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.02 07:44:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 02/05/2009 07:45:35
1: Caldari is Caldari for the purposes of this vigil, and I won't deny anybody who shows up to pay their respects that right, even if they do have philosophical and political allegiances that I disagree with. As I said, if it were up to me it'd be an all-comers thing, but that's always going to be controversial. The only group I'm encouraging to stay away are Federal loyalists.
2: don't give them ideas. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
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Silver Night
Caldari Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.05.02 22:54:00 -
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I will of course attend, corporate duties permitting. --------------
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Omiot Pavus
Caldari Raven Laboratories
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Posted - 2009.05.02 22:56:00 -
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I'll certainly be trying my hardest to attend, though the time represents a challenge for me.
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Nikita Alterana
Gallente The-Kissaki
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Posted - 2009.05.03 11:39:00 -
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was the Malkalen station ever repaired? I know that Ishukone is using it again, have they finally got the station repaired enough to be usable? its not still smoking like it was the last time I visited is it? __________________________________________________ I was Amarr before they were the FOTM and I'll be Amarr after it! I'm also training Minmatar Capitals! And I eat Lions! |
Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.03 13:59:00 -
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There are deck fires on that station that aren't going to go out until whatever chemical stockpile they're burning through is depleted. Considering the density and efficiency of some of the fuels used aboard a factory station, they might be going for a long while yet, and the only practical way of extinguishing a flame burning in vacuum is to wait until it runs out of fuel.
The interior's darkened - They've got power up and running, but I don't think anybody has the heart to turn the lights full on again. Not yet at least.
still looks almost as wrecked as it did in 110, in other words, though the last bits of dangerous wreckage and Wandering Saint superstructure have been removed. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
Lord Murkon
Amarr SPCS
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Posted - 2009.05.04 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Murkon on 04/05/2009 21:04:01
This vigil should be a moment of rememberance and reflection of the cost of war.
Lord Murkon
SPCS - Serving the pathetic Minmatar and lessor races by the grace of God
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.04 21:10:00 -
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While the time of the vigil makes it unlikely I could attend I would like to send a prayer that could be read aloud at the vigil. While the station was Caldari individuals of all races were maimed and killed by the treachery of Admiral Noir.
All who attend the vigil should be there for one reason and one reason only. To pay respects to those killed in that cowardly attack that fateful day.
Archbishop
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.05 07:10:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 05/05/2009 07:13:01 I appreciate the gesture, but I don't think that it's entirely appropriate for Caldari to be reading Amarrian prayers to each other at a memorial service in honour of a Caldari tragedy.
If you feel strongly enough about it, Might I suggest that you show up and read it yourself outside of the hours of the vigil. I'm not about to read out a prayer calling upon the Amarrian God when I could pray to my own deities instead or, better yet, not read out a prayer at all and keep the event secular.
POSTSCRIPT: Considering how many pilots have commented that it is difficult for them to attend on account of the time, I think it only fair to change the time. Recommendations are welcomed. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
Gabriel Darkefyre
Minmatar Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2009.05.06 22:37:00 -
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In respect to your stated wishes, as a Federation Aligned Pilot, I shall not be attending this Memorial.
Let this occasion be a time to remember all those tragically lost on that day, both onboard the Malkalen Station and onboard the FNS Wandering Saint, and not a time for conflict. ---------------
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Che Biko
Polytechnique Gallenteenne
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Posted - 2009.05.07 00:19:00 -
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Edited by: Che Biko on 07/05/2009 00:23:39 If conditions permit it, I will attend.
Edit: And I encourage everyone who gives a damn to come. It's not just Caldari that lost their lives in and around that station.
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Natalcya Katla
Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.05.07 02:49:00 -
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What do you think this ritual will achieve? Do you think you're doing the dead a favor? That they'll look down on you from some fairyland out of a children's tale and appreciate the effort?
Grow up, people. The cloneless dead are gone. Forever. They don't exist anymore. Your time is better spent doing something for the living.
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