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E Vile
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Posted - 2009.04.30 19:05:00 -
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No way am I going to fly a cruiser that outcosts a carrier. Not only are the ship prices still near 1 bil but subsystems are roughly 500 mil each. This ship is not worth a quarter that price. It's not better then T2 varients for specific roles.
I could see if this cruiser was totally insane preformance wise, but come on....these ships are not worth much more then a HAC in my opinion. Infact HAC have already gotten solo kills on these.
SO much for "new content". Give us some ships we would actually use (Other then the few extremely rich bored people)
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4 LOM
United Gamers
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Posted - 2009.04.30 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: E Vile No way am I going to fly a cruiser that outcosts a carrier. Not only are the ship prices still near 1 bil but subsystems are roughly 500 mil each. This ship is not worth a quarter that price. It's not better then T2 varients for specific roles.
I could see if this cruiser was totally insane preformance wise, but come on....these ships are not worth much more then a HAC in my opinion. Infact HAC have already gotten solo kills on these.
SO much for "new content". Give us some ships we would actually use (Other then the few extremely rich bored people)
Last time i was in jita a tengu hull was 500m
I am stillwaiting for the hull + subsystems to fall into that 500M range before i even think about buying one. If they never do... oh well my loss i guess.
Originally by: Twilight Moon of course you have nice hair. That pod goo, is actually VO5 conditioner.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2009.04.30 19:09:00 -
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1bill? More like 600mil and still dropping. Already seeing hulls for under 600. T3 is sometimes better then T2 variants. ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
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Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.04.30 19:13:00 -
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its a market thing. Im not an expert but I know that the more available on the market the prices will eventually come down. Just look at invul t2 now a days. its insanely low right now. its hell. So yes, it will come down but...it will take time. I think CCP (including me) thought that t3 prices would go down faster than right now and would rush on W-space but thats not whats happening.
I could be wrong on that but thats my impression on the last part
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Nidhiesk
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Posted - 2009.04.30 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: Nidhiesk on 30/04/2009 19:16:27
Originally by: Pottsey 1bill? More like 600mil and still dropping. Already seeing hulls for under 600. T3 is sometimes better then T2 variants.
sure true, sometimes its better than t2 but when you look at the price vs performance, no a lot of people would buy that. the consequences of losing the ship is very steep compared to t2 lol. its not only isk, its skill wise
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Orakkus
Minmatar m3 Corp BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.30 20:43:00 -
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Price may come down, but until CCP makes getting the resources from the wormholes easier, or more corps invest in long-term wormhole operations, the prices will stay prohibitively high.
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2009.04.30 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Pottsey 1bill? More like 600mil and still dropping. Already seeing hulls for under 600. T3 is sometimes better then T2 variants.
More like 3-5 billion and dropping slowly. Subsystems count as ship price.
The price on a full ship, subsystems included, will never drop too far. If the market crashes nobody will bother collecting the resources from WH space to make them.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.30 20:52:00 -
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Depends how highly the T3 resource gatherers value their time and in comparison to what. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2009.04.30 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Depends how highly the T3 resource gatherers value their time and in comparison to what.
Well if they are anything like Miners and T1 ship manufacturers...they don't value their time at all.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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dread fire
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Posted - 2009.04.30 22:53:00 -
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Currently the price of these ships is so high because the supplies to make them are still trickling down from W-space. Plus, to make them is even more complicated than T2 ships. It requires a bluebring to be reverse engineered, stuff to be bought or made, and made again before turning into a T3 ship. Not like your raven, which is a few mil trit and a handful of other easily mined or bought minerals.
Even if a T3 ship is not as good as a T2 ship, its versitility far outweighs the slightly worse performance. No more running 10-20 jumps back to jita to buy a new ship when you can just swap out your sub-systems
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Joe Martin
Gunship Diplomacy
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Posted - 2009.04.30 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: dread fire Even if a T3 ship is not as good as a T2 ship, its versitility far outweighs the slightly worse performance. No more running 10-20 jumps back to jita to buy a new ship when you can just swap out your sub-systems for tackling or DPS.
God forbid anyone have more than 1 ship in their base of operations.
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Elizabetherat DeMartha
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Posted - 2009.04.30 23:13:00 -
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Can't believe I've never tried this, but can you swap subs near an mom?
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Davinel Lulinvega
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Posted - 2009.04.30 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian
Originally by: Tippia Depends how highly the T3 resource gatherers value their time and in comparison to what.
Well if they are anything like Miners and T1 ship manufacturers...they don't value their time at all.
What. BUT I THOUGHT MINERALS I MINED MYSELF WERE FREE?!?!
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Caroline Nikon
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Posted - 2009.04.30 23:29:00 -
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The prices are goign down not because the supply is raisign a lot.. but because the fever for a t3 ship has passed and peopel are less willign to spent a crapload of isk on them. Unless CCP changes the costs to build them I don 't foresee to be possible to make a ship ready to fly under 800M isk.
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Preppa Atch
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Posted - 2009.05.01 00:27:00 -
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T1 is inexpensive because of AFK macro miners. T2 is inexpensive because of AFK moon mining. T3 will become inexpensive because ????? |
Deva Blackfire
D00M.
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Posted - 2009.05.01 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Preppa Atch T1 is inexpensive because of AFK macro miners. T2 is inexpensive because of AFK moon mining. T3 will become inexpensive because ?????
BECAUSE OF FALCON
And seriously: because of "i get it for free" squad.
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EFT Warrior
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Posted - 2009.05.01 00:51:00 -
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The reason things are cheap is because T1 and T2 components can be mined, manufactured and assembled in empire, where the risk is low, the input you have to give it and the resulted output are predictable, and everyone feels "safe" making it. On the flip side you have W-Space, consisting of several thousand unknown uncharted systems that required an elite team to go in and make a profit from it, where the supply line is just as unstable and moving supplies can be difficult. Of course prices will be high because the results aren't predicable, aren't "safe" and can't be done with ease.
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Aleus Stygian
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.01 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: Preppa Atch T1 is inexpensive because of AFK macro miners. T2 is inexpensive because of AFK moon mining. T3 will become inexpensive because ?????
BECAUSE OF FALCON
And seriously: because of "i get it for free" squad.
Truth.
Also, amusing fact: A Tengu with the 'Covert Reconfiguration' subsystem fitted gets a 5% bonus per level to Medium Hybrid Turret damage. However, it has no turret hardpoints.
Good thinking there, CCP. Did the coffee machine break down that particular morning, or...? _________________________________________________________
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MyOwnSling
Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.05.01 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Aleus Stygian
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
Originally by: Preppa Atch T1 is inexpensive because of AFK macro miners. T2 is inexpensive because of AFK moon mining. T3 will become inexpensive because ?????
BECAUSE OF FALCON
And seriously: because of "i get it for free" squad.
Truth.
Also, amusing fact: A Tengu with the 'Covert Reconfiguration' subsystem fitted gets a 5% bonus per level to Medium Hybrid Turret damage. However, it has no turret hardpoints.
Good thinking there, CCP. Did the coffee machine break down that particular morning, or...?
Devs already stated that this is a typo. It's really a missile bonus. -------------
Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face...
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Xequecal
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Posted - 2009.05.01 04:05:00 -
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Edited by: Xequecal on 01/05/2009 04:05:42 Honestly, they need to stay at extremely high prices. You can do some immensely overpowered stuff with them, like a bubble-immune Loki that webs/scrams you at 30km and does almost 600 DPS with 80k EHP. You don't need a single piece of faction gear for this, just judicious use of overheating and with the heat damage subsystem you can maintain it for like >4 minutes.
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Real Poison
Minmatar Stormlord Battleforce Vanguard.
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Posted - 2009.05.01 05:56:00 -
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they need to stay at that high level?
i don't think so. if the prices don't come down in the next month it would be just fail from CCP.
spending that amount of effort to bring new toys in apocrypha and then locking out 99% of the playerbase because not everyone has tons of isk to spend for the latest and greatest stuff, that's just a waste.
and also i'm pretty sure those nber-setups with BS-like dps, hic-like EHP, RECON-like stealth will get nerfed in the future.
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Xequecal
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Posted - 2009.05.01 07:14:00 -
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Originally by: Real Poison they need to stay at that high level?
i don't think so. if the prices don't come down in the next month it would be just fail from CCP.
spending that amount of effort to bring new toys in apocrypha and then locking out 99% of the playerbase because not everyone has tons of isk to spend for the latest and greatest stuff, that's just a waste.
and also i'm pretty sure those nber-setups with BS-like dps, hic-like EHP, RECON-like stealth will get nerfed in the future.
Well, I'm not sure about future nerfs, but right now the ship is virtually impossible to stop in gatecamps, (just fit an Improved Cloak and use the MWD + Cloak trick) and is pretty much ungankable. It even gets an agility bonus, which combined with the huge web/scram range means you can't even effectively bait it. No BS or BC will ever scram it and it then easily warps out in a few seconds if any backup arrives.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2009.05.01 09:31:00 -
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It's only been 2 months. CCP is likely to give it another 4 to see where the price stabilizes.
Originally by: Signature Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
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Qual
Gallente Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2009.05.01 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw It's only been 2 months. CCP is likely to give it another 4 to see where the price stabilizes.
They will wait until prices are stable to do anything (whenever that happends). As it is right now, they are still dropping, though not in free fall anymore.
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |
Daedricbob
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Posted - 2009.05.01 11:12:00 -
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On a slightly off-topic note, a corpmate of mine has a tengu, and he describes it as 'The ****** magnet'
Amongst other things he's had a few people getting concorded in hi-sec as they try to suicide kill his ship, we assume so they can have a t3 on their killboard. At the price they are atm, it makes him not want to fly it much.
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Rivqua
Caldari Omega Wing R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2009.05.01 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: EFT Warrior The reason things are cheap is because T1 and T2 components can be mined, manufactured and assembled in empire, where the risk is low, the input you have to give it and the resulted output are predictable, and everyone feels "safe" making it. On the flip side you have W-Space, consisting of several thousand unknown uncharted systems that required an elite team to go in and make a profit from it, where the supply line is just as unstable and moving supplies can be difficult. Of course prices will be high because the results aren't predicable, aren't "safe" and can't be done with ease.
O really. Please point me to the safe and available cache of highsec Dyspro & Ferrogel moons, so I can have a few of them, and also show me in what highsec system I can anchor my reactors so I can react the moon minerals!
The T3 and T2 production chains are basically the same, with the only difference being, you can get all T3 by yourself, but you can only get all of T2 by yourself if you live in a 0.0 alliance that is controlling a few coveted regions. _________________ - Rivqua - --- R.E.P.O. --- |
Elora Danzik
Caldari Idiots In Spaceships Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2009.05.01 14:49:00 -
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Prices are market driven. Established.
Basics put out about why T1, and T2 so cheap.
Prices on T3 will never be competive unless CCP creates a way for pilots to "stablize" wormholes. Its difficult and dangerous to jump a wormhole. It could collapse on you at anytime and then you have to scan your way out, with the strong possibility of appearing in Delve with entered in Lonetrek.
If we could realibly get back to our base of operations, then W-space would be more of drawn. Some of the risk of production would be removed. And prices would fall.
Till that happens prices will floor at high level. There will be dips but over 100 million is probably going to be normal.
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Shad Wrack
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Posted - 2009.05.01 15:33:00 -
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Our corp has colonized a WH since the first weeks of Apoc. The logistical cost for running this WH operation is staggering. For the first month out there this game was much more like a job, and I got burned out. Since the patch, things have changed and I would bet that prices will start to come down a little. However, the base cost of production is high and that will keep final product price high.
And like another poster stated, WH is alot more risky than AFK empire mining. The players willing to take that risk should get paid.
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James Hetfeild
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Posted - 2009.05.01 18:22:00 -
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Market price will fall. Be patient
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.05.01 18:44:00 -
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I see T3 as battleship class tank, with cruiser class DPS, at marauder class prices. They are very strange ships; I really don't know where they are supposed to fit in.
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wowtard
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Posted - 2009.05.01 20:13:00 -
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T3 is the best thing ever because it causes these "I can't afford it yesterday so CCPfail" threads.
If you can't afford T3, then fly into a wormhole and blow up stuff until you're lighting cigars with Tengu hulls.
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente Buffalo Soldiers
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Posted - 2009.05.01 23:23:00 -
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Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 01/05/2009 23:24:12
Originally by: Real Poison
i don't think so. if the prices don't come down in the next month it would be just fail from CCP.
spending that amount of effort to bring new toys in apocrypha and then locking out 99% of the playerbase because not everyone has tons of isk to spend for the latest and greatest stuff, that's just a waste.
It took over six months for the first Titan to be made. Now STFU noob.
-- The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then --
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Mulura
Need A Corp Name
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Posted - 2009.05.02 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: Elora Danzik Prices are market driven. Established.
Basics put out about why T1, and T2 so cheap.
Prices on T3 will never be competive unless CCP creates a way for pilots to "stablize" wormholes. Its difficult and dangerous to jump a wormhole. It could collapse on you at anytime and then you have to scan your way out, with the Reasonable low possibility of appearing in Delve with entered in Lonetrek.
If we could realibly get back to our base of operations, then W-space would be more of drawn. Some of the risk of production would be removed. And prices would fall.
Till that happens prices will floor at high level. There will be dips but over 100 million is probably going to be normal.
Fixed -.-
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Misanth
The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.05.02 02:13:00 -
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Waah waah waah.. excellent example of how to write a whine post. No flame intended, it's just the natural reply to OP. Consider a few things;
* Prices are set by players, not CCP. If there's "too much" material on market, prices will drop (or the other way around). I.e. supply and demand. * The less materials around, the higher chance someone plays the market, which might or might not have an impact on prices. * CCP's eventual balance will be affected by statistics. A few weeks, or two months, won't display a true situation about how the market will be. Right now the ships are in demand, i.e. prices go up. To get necessary statistics CCP has to give it some time. * T3 was stated on numerous times by CCP that it's not supposed to replace t2 as the standard, like t2 replaced t1. By having high prices on t3 ships, and skillpoints loss on ship loss, CCP try to keep these ship an 'optional', but 'expensive' content.
I could go on, but the point is; Prices are really hard to say if they're unreasonable, or not, right now. A stable production line needs to be established before we know things like volumes, and then if the prices are in line with CCP's wishes/expectations, etc.
Not to mention the OP is outright screaming to get a ship so he can replace his t2 versions? That's exactly what CCP don't want, so if he ever gets what he want, then CCP has failed with t3 anyway. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
Eternum Praetorian
Retribution. Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.02 02:26:00 -
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Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 02/05/2009 02:27:26
Originally by: Tau Cabalander I see T3 as battleship class tank, with cruiser class DPS, at marauder class prices. They are very strange ships; I really don't know where they are supposed to fit in.
As of right now its kinda-sorta like the faction ships (like) Dramiel, Worm, Succubus, Cruor, Daredevil exc.) 50M + for a Drameil that will die to a Rifter. Succubus is good, but there are other cheaper ways to do what it does and even more ways to kill it. And lets not get started on ships like the Phantasm.
Nightmare is 1B isk of mission pwning uberness, but I think that kind of ties in with the state of amarr weapons at the moment. Give them amazing bonus and wow. (A friend of mine claims a wrecking hit once instapopped a BS in a mission)
Basically its P.I.M.P.
Tech 3 is will attract gank like a CNR in low sec (If for no other reason then its coast and everyone will want one on their killbaord) That in itself becomes a double edged sword. I think Eve has just found its ultimate "leet" faction ship. Except this time you will loose SP when you die in one
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2009.05.02 07:49:00 -
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the materials arent really that expensive for a t3. their is a good supply of gas and salvage need to make the ships. and the prices of both have came way down. The problem is the parts needed to reverse engineer are still quite expensive. with the best parts to reverse engineer costing hundreds of millions yet. The lowest grade parts to RE from are really cheap but not really effective i believe.
Prices have came way down. T3s are going for 400 milish now and subsystems range from 150 mil- 500 mil. Expect to see the ships level off in the 100-250 mil range with subsystems leveling off around 50-150 mil range. Possibly even more further down the road ( 6-12 months). Especially if the t3 class gets new additions to it. They will probably remain more expensive than T2 ships but still decently affordable. Still not viable for normal pvp. This would be like flying black op ships in everyday pvp.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.05.02 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: wowtard If you can't afford T3, then fly into a wormhole and blow up stuff until you're lighting cigars with Tengu hulls.
…except that this wouldn't actually change the price of them — you'd still be flying around in a 2bil ship. Again, things are not free just because you mine them yourself (and that's incidentally why T3 is still omgwtfexpensive).
Originally by: Misanth * Prices are set by players, not CCP. If there's "too much" material on market, prices will drop (or the other way around). I.e. supply and demand.
…except that CCP can quite drastically change the supply, and thus change the price. That said, though…
Quote: * CCP's eventual balance will be affected by statistics. A few weeks, or two months, won't display a true situation about how the market will be. Right now the ships are in demand, i.e. prices go up. To get necessary statistics CCP has to give it some time.
…this is still true. However, it is very easy to see that a rebalancing of the drop rates will be required since you can quite easily calculate how much material (and therefore how many manhours) go into a single ship, and get a baseline cost from there.
Quote: * T3 was stated on numerous times by CCP that it's not supposed to replace t2 as the standard, like t2 replaced t1. By having high prices on t3 ships, and skillpoints loss on ship loss, CCP try to keep these ship an 'optional', but 'expensive' content.
They've also said that they were looking at a final total cost of 2-300mil for a T3 ship, which everyone who's done the math on the things — ever since they were in testing — has said is impossible unless the materials were essentially free (or, rather, they required zero gathtering time which is pretty much the same thing). ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Arushia
Nova Labs
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Posted - 2009.05.02 17:29:00 -
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The deciding factor in T3 pricing continues to be the cost of the polymers, especially Carbon-86 Epoxy Resin. The price of subsystems is largely hovering just above (or below for the really unpopular subsystems) the build cost.
You want to make them cheaper? Get busy harvesting/reacting the high-end fullerides.
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Sydian Rie
Minmatar Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2009.05.02 17:45:00 -
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Not sure what the big hype is really, eventually you will get popped if you're flying one of these things. Cost effectiveness isn't as good as a well fit t2 cruiser IMO. So why even fly one if not simply to have a new shiny toy to show off to everyone.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.05.02 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Arushia The deciding factor in T3 pricing continues to be the cost of the polymers, especially Carbon-86 Epoxy Resin. The price of subsystems is largely hovering just above (or below for the really unpopular subsystems) the build cost.
You want to make them cheaper? Get busy harvesting/reacting the high-end fullerides.
That only makes them cheaper if time is free. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
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Katarlia Simov
Minmatar Cowboys From Hell
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Posted - 2009.05.02 17:52:00 -
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I honestly don't think t3 prices will drop to where ccp wanted them. On the other hand, I think that people may well get into building their own a fair amount. Since t3 materials are available to literally anyone as long as they have the stones to go out and find them, people may invest the time to do that.
Personally, I'm not ever doing to fly one of them unless something amazing happens to the price. I mean, I'm not against the t3 ships, but to beat out a t2 cruiser or a properlly fit bs, at least in my mind, they'll have to be affordable.
Nothing in eve is ever really safe. I mean t3 still dies same as anything else, and with the isk on the line in the billion region, i'd MUCH rather pvp in a nightmare or a vindicator or something. Least they got hyper-pimp factor.
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Sera Ryskin
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Posted - 2009.05.02 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth * Prices are set by players, not CCP. If there's "too much" material on market, prices will drop (or the other way around). I.e. supply and demand.
Bull****. If CCP wants to reduce prices, all they have to do is lower the build requirements and/or increase component drop rates.
Quote: * T3 was stated on numerous times by CCP that it's not supposed to replace t2 as the standard, like t2 replaced t1. By having high prices on t3 ships, and skillpoints loss on ship loss, CCP try to keep these ship an 'optional', but 'expensive' content.
Correction: CCP has stated an intended price in the 1-300 mil range. The current absurd prices are NOT working as intended. ==========
Merin is currently enjoying a 14 day vacation from the forums. Until she returns, you've got me to entertain you!
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2009.05.02 20:52:00 -
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T3 prices are ridiculous atm but they arent as bad ship wise as they were made out to be by sisi players. I can get a 1500-3500 dps tank on a tengu and still get around 250-300 dps from around 100 km out( i think EFT is eating my fits so i cant remember exact specs)a 1500 DPS tank on a cruiser is insane and that being its weakest resist. and thats with sane faction gear( no officer or highend plex)
Until they are more common though they are nothing more than "gank me" advertisements.
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Raiffe DuBoite
The New Eden Visionary
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Posted - 2009.05.02 23:20:00 -
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We just ran an article after speaking to someone involved with T3 production here, The New Eden Visionary The New Eden Visionary 'The Truth, by any means necessary!' |
Caroline Nikon
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Posted - 2009.05.03 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Xequecal
Originally by: Real Poison they need to stay at that high level?
i don't think so. if the prices don't come down in the next month it would be just fail from CCP.
spending that amount of effort to bring new toys in apocrypha and then locking out 99% of the playerbase because not everyone has tons of isk to spend for the latest and greatest stuff, that's just a waste.
and also i'm pretty sure those nber-setups with BS-like dps, hic-like EHP, RECON-like stealth will get nerfed in the future.
Well, I'm not sure about future nerfs, but right now the ship is virtually impossible to stop in gatecamps, (just fit an Improved Cloak and use the MWD + Cloak trick) and is pretty much ungankable. It even gets an agility bonus, which combined with the huge web/scram range means you can't even effectively bait it. No BS or BC will ever scram it and it then easily warps out in a few seconds if any backup arrives.
did you even tried? If you had you would know that due to the pathetic agility and acceleration that component has that ship is EASIER to catch than a vagabond.
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Seishi Maru
M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.05.03 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sydian Rie Not sure what the big hype is really, eventually you will get popped if you're flying one of these things. Cost effectiveness isn't as good as a well fit t2 cruiser IMO. So why even fly one if not simply to have a new shiny toy to show off to everyone.
not necessarily.. I know a few guys that pvp quite a lot in t2 cruisers and don 't loose any for more than 6 months. I would not doubt those same guys can pass a whole year untouched in a t3 ship.
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ShadowGod56
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Posted - 2009.05.03 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: MyOwnSling already stated that this is a typo. It's really a missile bonus.
sadly... it would fair better with guns if you ask me, even if the DPS will be LOL WUT?
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