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Sophine Fortre	Posted - 2009.05.08 03:11:00 - [1] lets assume the following: a = b Now, we do stuff a^2 = ab :multiply by a a^2 - b^2 = ab - b^2 :subtract b squared (a - b)(a + b) = b(a - b) :factor them a + b = b :divide by (a-b) b + b = b :because a=b 2b = b :combine like terms 2 = 1 :see?
goodby4u Valor Inc. Psychotic Tendencies.	Posted - 2009.05.08 03:14:00 - [2] Brb im going to dust off the old algebra books.
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2009.05.08 03:25:00 - [3] Edited by: Yakia TovilToba on 08/05/2009 03:26:23 Originally by: Sophine Fortre lets assume the following: a = b Now, we do stuff a^2 = ab :multiply by a a^2 - b^2 = ab - b^2 :subtract b squared (a - b)(a + b) = b(a - b) :factor them a + b = b :divide by (a-b) Wrong ! If a=b then a-b = 0. You can't divide stuff by 0. b + b = b :because a=b 2b = b :combine like terms 2 = 1 :see?
Kulmid Asshats and Alcoholics Turbo.	Posted - 2009.05.08 03:27:00 - [4] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Edited by: Yakia TovilToba on 08/05/2009 03:26:23 Originally by: Sophine Fortre lets assume the following: a = b Now, we do stuff a^2 = ab :multiply by a a^2 - b^2 = ab - b^2 :subtract b squared (a - b)(a + b) = b(a - b) :factor them a + b = b :divide by (a-b) Wrong ! If a=b then a-b = 0. You can't divide stuff by 0. b + b = b :because a=b 2b = b :combine like terms 2 = 1 :see? He beat me to it. _________________
Sophine Fortre	Posted - 2009.05.08 03:33:00 - [5] you guys are no fun :(
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.05.08 03:42:00 - [6] Pwned Pomp FTW!!!
Dong Ninja	Posted - 2009.05.08 04:07:00 - [7] Originally by: Sophine Fortre you guys are no fun :( Seeing as how your avatar is a woman, it's no surprise you can't do math. Originally by: Xen Gin Indeed, upgrading an MS OS is like taking a **** into a cake mixture, then complaining that it doesn't taste good when it's all done.
Atomos Darksun Damage Incorporated.	Posted - 2009.05.08 04:15:00 - [8] Originally by: Dong Ninja Originally by: Sophine Fortre you guys are no fun :( Seeing as how your avatar is a woman, it's no surprise you can't do math. http://xkcd.com/385/ Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice... CONVERT TO LINKIFICATION! http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameb
KingsGambit Caldari Knights	Posted - 2009.05.08 08:17:00 - [9] Originally by: Dong Ninja Seeing as how your avatar is a woman, it's no surprise you can't do math. Incontrovertible proof -------------
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.05.08 08:49:00 - [10] EVE issues\|Mining revamp\|Build stuff\|Make ISK

ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2009.05.08 09:13:00 - [11] Oh God, not this AGAIN! YOU. CAN'T. DIVIDE. BY. ZERO. ____________________
Dong Ninja	Posted - 2009.05.08 10:48:00 - [12] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Oh God, not this AGAIN! YOU. CAN'T. DIVIDE. BY. ZERO. You can, you just can't define it with traditional mathematics, because if you have a = b/c, and c=0 then you also have to conclude that a(c) = b, a(0) = b, thus a could be any real number, and is hence just considered undefined. Also, b would equal 0 even if you defined b beforehand, which is why you cannot divide zero by zero, as it's still undefined. There are mathematics that divide by zero, however, and also use imaginary numbers to calculate information (electrical engineering I think is one of the big fields that use imaginary). Originally by: Xen Gin Indeed, upgrading an MS OS is like taking a **** into a cake mixture, then complaining that it doesn't taste good when it's all done.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.05.08 10:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Dong Ninja Originally by: ReaperOfSly Oh God, not this AGAIN! YOU. CAN'T. DIVIDE. BY. ZERO. You can, you just can't define it with traditional mathematics, because if you have a = b/c, and c=0 then you also have to conclude that a(c) = b, a(0) = b, thus a could be any real number, and is hence just considered undefined. Also, b would equal 0 even if you defined b beforehand, which is why you cannot divide zero by zero, as it's still undefined. There are mathematics that divide by zero, however, and also use imaginary numbers to calculate information (electrical engineering I think is one of the big fields that use imaginary). Its people like you that cause todays crashes with all your dividing by zeroness. ______________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Malvaceae Veri	Posted - 2009.05.08 11:41:00 - [14] Wtf? You still cant divide by zero on the z plane either. Sure, one way of complex integration is searching for and integrating around singulairities, but imaginary number are there so you can root negative numbers (oversimplified, yes), not so that you can divide by zero. Otoh, there truly are some very abstract algebraic form where zero is not a non-divider, but that requires about 6 years of uni math to even begin to understand.
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2009.05.08 14:20:00 - [15] Originally by: Dong Ninja Originally by: ReaperOfSly Oh God, not this AGAIN! YOU. CAN'T. DIVIDE. BY. ZERO. You can, you just can't define it with traditional mathematics, because if you have a = b/c, and c=0 then you also have to conclude that a(c) = b, a(0) = b, thus a could be any real number, and is hence just considered undefined. Also, b would equal 0 even if you defined b beforehand, which is why you cannot divide zero by zero, as it's still undefined. There are mathematics that divide by zero, however, and also use imaginary numbers to calculate information (electrical engineering I think is one of the big fields that use imaginary). You're talking gobblede***. If a is treated as a function of c and b is nonzero, then we have an asymptote at c=0. If b is zero, then a is 0 everywhere except c = 0 where a is undefined. As for the OP's example, it's just saying 10 = 2*0, therefore 1 = 2 which is obviously fallacious. ____________________
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2009.05.08 15:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Dong Ninja (electrical engineering I think is one of the big fields that use imaginary). Yes. And crazy people. --- Originally by: Roguehalo Can you nano Titans?
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2009.05.08 17:25:00 - [17] "10 = 20, therefore 1 = 2 which is obviously fallacious." I suck at math but even I know that turns out to be 0 = 0 which is true! Pomp FTW!!!

CCP Tuxford	Posted - 2009.05.08 17:29:00 - [18] I'm an electrical engineer and afaik I am not allowed to divide by zero. In fact I'm pretty sure that the only person that can divide by zero is Chuck Norris,... maybe Vin Diesel _______________

Doctor Penguin Amarr Celestial Ascension Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.05.08 17:47:00 - [19] 1/0 = Undefined. It's possible, but not possible at the same time. ________________________________________________ http://eve.drome.nl/CaodCleaner/ Help make CAOD readable.
Bullageddon Caldari	Posted - 2009.05.08 19:03:00 - [20] Originally by: CCP Tuxford I'm an electrical engineer and afaik I am not allowed to divide by zero. In fact I'm pretty sure that the only person that can divide by zero is Chuck Norris,... maybe Vin Diesel Chuck Norris because he's awesome, Vin Diesel because he's stupid.. amirite? === This Space For Lease or Sale.

rValdez5987 Amarr Imperial Guard.	Posted - 2009.05.09 03:21:00 - [21] Originally by: CCP Tuxford I'm an electrical engineer and afaik I am not allowed to divide by zero. In fact I'm pretty sure that the only person that can divide by zero is Chuck Norris,... maybe Vin Diesel You stole that thought out of my head. I say that all the time. Are we friends?
Trustworthy Joe	Posted - 2009.05.09 06:40:00 - [22] Edited by: Trustworthy Joe on 09/05/2009 06:40:29 Originally by: CCP Tuxford I'm an electrical engineer and afaik I am not allowed to divide by zero. In fact I'm pretty sure that the only person that can divide by zero is Chuck Norris,... maybe Vin Diesel i have designed the CCP formula x = devposts per day Y = boot.ini Z = ner**e X = (Y^2/Z)/(2+nano(TomB/0))5 ITS SCIENCE I SAY!!! EDIT nerf a ge is censored? _______________________ with a name as trustworthy as mine, i cant POSSIBLY be an alt Originally by: CCP Navigator I locked this thread BECAUSE OF FALCON
The Jawbreaker Minmatar Toys R Us	Posted - 2009.05.09 06:48:00 - [23] walks in ugh OOW brrainmelt! omg dead
Betray Caldari Royal Enterprise Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.05.09 11:18:00 - [24] Try this: (note, sqr()=square root) i=i //i is sqr(-1) as we all know sqr(-1)=sqr(-1) //using definition from above sqr(1/-1)=sqr(-1/1) //rewrite -1 as a fraction sqr(1)/sqr(-1)=sqr(-1)/sqr(1) //as we know, sqr(x/y)=sqr(x)/sqr(y) i=1 *//cross multiply. x/y=a/b then xb=ya* 1=-1 //square both sides 2=0 //adds 1 to both sides 1=0 //divide by 2 2=1 //add 1 Note, Im not OP, but I support his case for the fun of it! -Betray-
ReaperOfSly Gallente Zetsubou Corp	Posted - 2009.05.09 12:10:00 - [25] Originally by: Betray Try this: (note, sqr()=square root) i=i //i is sqr(-1) as we all know sqr(-1)=sqr(-1) //using definition from above sqr(1/-1)=sqr(-1/1) //rewrite -1 as a fraction sqr(1)/sqr(-1)=sqr(-1)/sqr(1) //as we know, sqr(x/y)=sqr(x)/sqr(y) i=1 *//cross multiply. x/y=a/b then xb=ya* 1=-1 //square both sides 2=0 //adds 1 to both sides 1=0 //divide by 2 2=1 //add 1 Note, Im not OP, but I support his case for the fun of it! Ah the fun of multivalued functions. When taking square roots, you have to consider both the positive and negative values. ____________________
Bismaru's Ambition	Posted - 2009.05.09 17:05:00 - [26] OMG if my old math teacher saw this thread she would kill herself,..
Nefrin Maldoes Minmatar Outer Rim Survey and Salvage	Posted - 2009.05.19 03:35:00 - [27] Edited by: Nefrin Maldoes on 19/05/2009 03:35:21 Oh the Humanity ------------------------------------------------ SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!
Whitehound	Posted - 2009.05.19 10:02:00 - [28] Reminds me a lot of math with matches, only this is math here does not match. -- If there is anything in your life you fear of losing, then keep your mouth shut once in a while.

CCP Atropos C C P	Posted - 2009.05.19 10:47:00 - [29] Originally by: CCP Tuxford I'm an electrical engineer and afaik I am not allowed to divide by zero. In fact I'm pretty sure that the only person that can divide by zero is Chuck Norris,... maybe Vin Diesel I'm an electronic engineer, and I divide by zero all the time. Software Engineer CCP Engineering Services

Reven Cordelle Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.05.19 10:48:00 - [30] Maths like this is amusing ****. Because its basically proving an irrelevant point by bending the rules for the sake of it. Its like me saying the sky is green, because I say so.



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