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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.05.11 16:00:00 -
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1st- we form up a t1 and t2 frig gang(some cruisers), go roaming, no major targets except for a few solo minnies we killed, then we hit auga on the dal gate, minnies show up, its a harbinger and some minor support, engage the harbinger, BAM, minnies flood in with a heavy fleet followed by a hot drop of a carrier, naturally we pull out(we had some losses).
We come back in a appropiate counter fleet, BS heavy, we naturally avoid Kamela and stations antipating a SF hotdrop. after about 20 to 25 mins, minnies pack up a leave knowing they no longer have SF support because SF wont hot drop our fleet on a gates.
P.S. SF your Cyno hauler following us was a joke. We knew it was you the whole time.
2nd- Knowning the minnies werent showing up, we opted to get their attention, so we began laying seige to a POS of the theirs in Vard. Sadly not a single minnie showed. OK so its reinforced, guns are disabled, surely they will show in 24 hours to defend it.
3rd-NO SHOW, the owners of the POS said they requested assistance, minnies formed up but apparently said it was hopeless to engage our fleet. So we freely killed the POS. With SF, Heretics, and your own militia you all failed to do anything of value in the past 3 major fleets we formed up. You guys are pathetic. Grow a pair you sissy's.
And SF, if you going to hug the stations like a baby on a mothers breast, you might as well make yourselves usefull and buff the station walls while your out there.
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Smog890
Minmatar Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2009.05.11 17:08:00 -
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This happens all the time, we have bigger fleet we can take you we come after you, you run after you see our fleet, get bigger fleet, we run, since you now can take us easily.
Guy that owned the POS asked for militia help 2 minutes before it came out and said nothing to militia until then... two mintues to get a fleet up to defend pos not happening... so whoever owned the pos should of been spaming militia for 24hours saying it comes out in 24 hours and then we would of been able to assist properly instead of a 2 minute warning...
So, everything you had just said is how eve has always been, bait fleet, bring in bigger fleet, other fleet ships up, brings bigger fleet to first fleet, other fleet runs, and thats how it goes and always has, and for defending a pos you need to let your Militia/Alliance know before two minutes so people can have ships fit, be online, etc. nothing new here move along and stop bragging about nothing.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.05.11 19:17:00 -
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Well, actually, after we refitted into a BS fleet, it was still roughly even, and thats without the carrier support that you guys had. So all we did was somewhat level the playing field, which apparently you guys dont have the balls to engage us. And if we had the BS fleet in the first place, then we would have stayed and fought on the dal gate in auga.
You guys dropped BS's, BC's and a carrier on our frig fleet? We come back with a proper reason for you guys to have that kind of fire power, and you guys buzz off like a bunch of swatted flies.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.11 19:34:00 -
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My advise? When you outnumber your enemies by 10 - 1 don't be so shy about aggressing in front of the guns. You can't except everything to always go in your favour. Unless you are prepared to take some risks you won't get fights on your terms, you'll just continue to get culled at times of our convenience.
Your corporation is too small for us to consider wardeccing so you will have to aggress if you want to engage us backed by your fleets. Otherwise we may or may not assassinate you at any other time we feel its possible to hit and run remove your taint from the warzone.
But don't complain about lack of fights directly stemming from your own lack of commitment. I've just finished an excellent practically 90 minute engagement in Kamela against some Amarrian commanders who actually dared aggress and I think it was a great challenge for all involved.
Blame your own cowardice for your boredom.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.05.11 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 11/05/2009 19:34:52
My advise? When you outnumber your enemies by 10 - 1 don't be so shy about aggressing in front of the guns. You can't expect everything to always go in your favour. Unless you are prepared to take some risks you won't get fights on your terms, you'll just continue to get culled at times of our convenience.
Your corporation is too small for us to consider wardeccing so you will have to aggress if you want to engage us backed by your fleets. Otherwise we may or may not assassinate you at any other time we feel its possible to hit and run remove your taint from the warzone.
But don't complain about lack of fights directly stemming from your own lack of commitment. I've just finished an excellent practically 90 minute engagement in Kamela against some Amarrian commanders who actually dared aggress and I think it was a great challenge for all involved.
Blame your own cowardice for your boredom.
Well, you see, you guys aren't even really part of the equation, but the fact of the matter is, you want to make yourselves part of it, yet when it comes time to properly engage, you hold on to your precious stations, if you had supported the minnies outside of the kamela station and say on a gate, where the fight would have happened, then the fight would not have been in our favor. See it was essentially even, your support would have tipped the scales in the minmatars favor, but cowardice seems to plague SF and the Minmatar.
And why would we waste our time aggressing you? The Amarr Militia did not instigate aggression with SF, you came to us remember. So bring it, or shut it.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.11 20:07:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 11/05/2009 20:07:58
Originally by: Invelious ... if you had supported the minnies outside of the kamela station and say on a gate, where the fight would have happened, then the fight would not have been in our favor.
If it wasn't in your favour it wouldn't have happened since you would have fled. You aren't kidding anyone Invelious. This thread is about you complaining that your enemies are not falling into your traps and you spent 3 entire musters putting up grand fleets and achieving nothing.
Quote: And why would we waste our time aggressing you? The Amarr Militia did not instigate aggression with SF, you came to us remember. So bring it, or shut it.
You can only speak for your own tawdry Corporation I think. Other members of the Amarr Militia certainly are prepared to aggress us.
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Teddy Tazer
Minmatar Vard School of Cryo Cuisine
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Posted - 2009.05.11 20:11:00 -
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Regarding the POS you blew up. it was mearly an experiment to see how long it would take the amarr militia to discover and destroy it, and 3 months aint too bad.
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crockett EXE
Minmatar Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.05.11 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: crockett EXE on 11/05/2009 20:28:25
Originally by: Invelious Well, actually, after we refitted into a BS fleet, it was still roughly even, and thats without the carrier support that you guys had. So all we did was somewhat level the playing field, which apparently you guys dont have the balls to engage us. And if we had the BS fleet in the first place, then we would have stayed and fought on the dal gate in auga.
You guys dropped BS's, BC's and a carrier on our frig fleet? We come back with a proper reason for you guys to have that kind of fire power, and you guys buzz off like a bunch of swatted flies.
That fleet you guys had for the POS was no where near even for what we had at the time. You guys had 50 ships in your fleet and around 30 of them were BS's.
I was in a fleet that was trying to get support to go after your fleet, but there just wasn't enough notice to get enough BS's. No one in the fleet I was in even knew anything about the POS being attacked until it was too late. The owner didn't tell anyone, because he figured it was his problem, he didn't realize the Militia would have supported him.
If you want action fly at night time, because we do nothing but chase running Amarr around all night. We always have to go to Old Man Star or Providence to grab some kills because Amarr are always ship spinning in Kamela, unless they can muster up a BS blob.
Also if you "really" want action quit "shipping up" everytime we bring a Cruiser/Frig fleet out to fight your cruiser frig fleet. It never fails, we will search out and find a decant sized Amarr gang in frigs and cruisers which would be an equal fight and next thing you know they run back to Kamela to pull out the BS blob.
If you want to talk about running and no fights, try flying the night shift because that's all Amarr does, runs and doesn't fight. The minmatar out number your guys at night time but we tend to give your guys a chance and we typically fly BC or lower. When the Amarr out number Minmatar in the day, you guys still fly mostly BS blobs. Ship down and leave the BS blobs at home when you out number us and you will likely get fights.
Hell just yesterday, we came into Kamella and went into a plex that required Frigs and T1 cruisers. We had a small gang and Amarr and a equal sized gang that was active in local but they wouldn't get out of the BS's and BC and ship down to come fight us on equal terms, so what you complain about is a two way street.
I do want to give credit to "Veshta Yoshida" for a good fight yesterday. I'm not sure what the details were, because I was a few jumps away at the start but he killed 2 or 3 frigs in a Punisher inside a minor plex. I decided he sounded like a good challenge so I picked up my rifter and went burning his direction to try and get a solo fight.
It ended up being a very good fight and we both fought down to hull and it literally could have gone either way because it was so close. At the end of the fight, I did a noobie mistake and forgot to restart my cap booster which cost me my ship & pod, I should have beat him (grrr).
The only gripe I had about the fight is it was so close at the end I wasn't spamming warp to get my pod out, because it looked like I was going to kill him until literally the last few seconds where he got the upper hand. I lagged as my ship blew and he grabbed my pod and killed it which kinda sucked after a good fight like that.
I also had a good 1 v 1 fight against "SuiJuris" the day before in a Arbi vs Arbi fight. He got lucky and got out in half hull because I was out of cap and couldn't keep him in point range, but it was a good fight regardless.
The point is, there are fights is you leave the BS blobs and roam a bit. I also stick to the blob a bit too much, but it's hard to solo in this game let alone do it as a noob. I do solo roam when I can though.
edit..
btw.. I'm always up for solo t1 frig fights and your pod is safe with me if I kill you in that type of fight.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.05.11 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Teddy Tazer Regarding the POS you blew up. it was mearly an experiment to see how long it would take the amarr militia to discover and destroy it, and 3 months aint too bad.
Well, we have known about it for sometime, and the only reason we popped it was out of boredom.
"If it wasn't in your favour it wouldn't have happened since you would have fled. You aren't kidding anyone Invelious. This thread is about you complaining that your enemies are not falling into your traps and you spent 3 entire musters putting up grand fleets and achieving nothing."
Traps? There was no trap, take your spin and shove it in your infected wormhole.
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Xeroxelyna
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Posted - 2009.05.12 04:52:00 -
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(this is Neu Bastian, account is inactive for a bit)
Not another of these...
Totally right tho, the Amarr side has never hotdropped a couple Motherships on a BC gang, while having the numerical advantage(and us still coming up ISK wise)...
Or killed a POS that was never properly defended with a fleet...
Yup, never seen 30+ Fleets of even numbers just waiting for the other one to jump in((and lag out)) till both fleets simply stand down...
Sarcasm aside, Its a war, sometimes you fight, sometimes the enemy retreats, and sometimes you retreat. Its how it goes. You should know, the Amarr do it plenty too.
You sound jut like the Providence holders. 6000 strong vs our 500, and they got the balls to complain that we use cloaks or retreat when they bring 3:1, 5:1 or even 10+:1 odds.
Stop *****ing on galnet, go fight the war.
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crockett EXE
Minmatar Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.05.12 05:50:00 -
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Edited by: crockett EXE on 12/05/2009 05:52:24
One thing to add to this topic which is kind of ironic. Amarr tried to take down another POS today and had around 25 or so ships. Minmatar formed up a fleet of 27 forcing the Amarr to run away, with them losing two BS's (one with faction fit mods) a BC and a few others, with zero loses on our side.
They got no kills so we can't see their fleet make up because they ran, but from what the scouts said they had 7 BS's in their fleet of 25 or so, which would have made for a pretty even fight. The deal is, the Amarr will never fight if the odds are even.
I dunno what it is but any time it's a even fight they will run and scatter in all different directions and we almost always end up picking off a few of them while in chase.
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Keitoshi Yamada
Caldari Mjolnir Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.12 07:35:00 -
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Silly Amarr, complaining about their enemies running away like cowards after already being cowards themselves.
This is not the Caldari way.
You'd think religious fanatics like yourselves would have a little more sense of honour.
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Marcos Dirritu
Minmatar Fearless Scouts
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Posted - 2009.05.12 08:14:00 -
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My most favorite moment in the last few days was sitting in Kamela watching an Amarr fleet who had just docked in Kamela, trying to find out what they would ship up to.
Watching for half an hour.
Listening for half an hour to a pretty much unstopping torrent of smack in local how the present Minmatar are always docking up.
While being docked.
Hypocrisy is the greatest Amarrian virtue.
This is war. Either side docks up if they feel that engaging will not serve their cause. Throwing little tantrums on IGS about it only makes you look silly.
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Foolish Bob
Caldari The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Posted - 2009.05.12 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Teddy Tazer Regarding the POS you blew up. it was mearly an experiment to see how long it would take the amarr militia to discover and destroy it, and 3 months aint too bad.
Meme Meow > it's mostly a safespot for safe ice unloading Meme Meow > yea, ur sorta bein d*cks atm, tbh imho
totally sounded like he didn't care lol. What exactly was in the hangar array? On an entirely unrelated note, I hope that TMEGA found a use for their new hangar array
And if crockett is saying that we had 30 battleships on that first night, then we all get to be pleased that each of us is counted literally twice. Shows how much respect they give our battleships tbh.
The second night we may well have had 20 or more - tbh I lost count as a chunk of them were Caldari. I don't know if you guys were asked to come down or were just around for a change of scenery, but you're always welcome . I'm sorry the epic fight didn't materialise, but knowing you guys, I'm sure you found fun enough on your own
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BattleStar Crusader
Amarr Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Posted - 2009.05.12 12:25:00 -
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Edited by: BattleStar Crusader on 12/05/2009 12:25:59 You were completley out gunned in this fight werent you
And again out gunned
Im seeing a patternt here. I seeing vastly superior fleets failing to inferior ships. Its not what you fly its how you fly.
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crockett EXE
Minmatar Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.05.12 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: crockett EXE on 12/05/2009 13:17:02 Edited by: crockett EXE on 12/05/2009 13:12:12
Originally by: BattleStar Crusader Edited by: BattleStar Crusader on 12/05/2009 12:25:59 You were completley out gunned in this fight werent you
And again out gunned
Im seeing a patternt here. I seeing vastly superior fleets failing to inferior ships. Its not what you fly its how you fly.
Well, I wasn't in that fight but it seems clear that the kills were over the course of about 20 mins with the first link, so it's not like that was one single fight.
That added with the fact you killed the same guys a few times, makes me assume you likely had a gate camps going with your full force in one place for each fight and you managed to pick them off a few at a time likely because they weren't organized well for what ever reason.
However don't blow your own your horn too much, because I've seen the same kind of things reversed. In fact it was my first or second day in FW that we had a big gang battle where your guys had more BS's and should have cleaned our clocks. In the end your guys lost 15 ships and we only lost my rifter.
In fact it was this fight right here, from your own KB..
Dead Amarr Gang
It wasn't a 30 vs 16 fight as it looks on the KB.. You guys just didn't kill anything but my rifter. Your side actually had more ships than we did in this fight but they ran away after the first few started dieing. You guys got lucky and got most of your BS's out by motoring back to the gate while we were busy hitting the primaries.
At the end of the day.. the KM's never tell the entire story..
edit..
Looking at the second link you posted, it appears to be much like the first with the kill spread across about 20 mins or so, again likely a gate camp where you picked off a few at a time.
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Lord Ira
Tribal Core
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Posted - 2009.05.12 13:26:00 -
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Ah, the never ending argument. Both sides are right, and both sides are wrong. I don't quite see the point in coming to galnet to complain about it though. Actions speak louder than words; do something about it Invelious.
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Heartstone
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.12 13:36:00 -
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((I Hate OOC posts but I have to make this one. I know some of you guys are new to IGS and all that but please follow the rules
Quote: 5. Killmails & Killboards
Posting killmails, killboard links or screenshots of killboards will be considered as trolling or off-topic, and subject to removal or warning.
There will be no discussion allowed of privately run killboard issues/accuracies taking place in this forum.
It has been proven that such discussions inevitably invite ill-spirited comments and off-topic issues.
Thanks Heartstone)) ---
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.12 14:09:00 -
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Have to agree with my corp mate Heartstone. When it gets to the point of posting killmails and accusing each other of whatever nonsense can be hurled the point of the thread and the forum is lost.
This is a war - in a war both sides seek what advantage they can get and will do whatever they can to fight with advantage. This is not a polite country-faire dance or game of holo-bowling on the galactic village green.
I will think absolutely nothing of ordering 10 capital ships to eliminate an Amarrian cruiser thats webbed, scrambled and jammed and I'll execute the pilot too if given half a chance. The pilot ship and crew are serving an evil and regressive cause and deserve nothing but death.
If I have the advantage I will use it.
I expect absolutely no less of my enemies.
This kind of thread that is laden with hand-wringing and faux outrage at the concept that the opposition will fight on terms of their choosing is utter hogwash and worthy of nothing except scorn.
Any man or women in this warzone that claims they don't seek overwhelming advantage in war engagements is either a liar or a psycopath.
Amarrians realize this if I had the means to introduce poisonous snakes into your air conditioning ducts and kill you in your sleep be assured I'd be signing the orders right now. Consider yourselves lucky you have a ship's hull to protect you from my wrath most of the time.
Now please lets put this ridiculous topic out of its misery and have the honesty to accept that everyone does what is neccessary to kill the enemy.
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Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.12 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine Any man or women in this warzone that claims they don't seek overwhelming advantage in war engagements is either a liar or a psychopath.
Anyone who believes this is stupid. Considering the virtual immortality and fast monetary resources of many pod pilots, this war is about morale as much as about attrition. Repeatedly thrashing your enemy with a supposedly inferior ship/fleet is excellent to hurt his morale.
Denying your enemy the battles they desire also hurts their morale. This tactic was highly effective against the campaign against Star Fraction, and ultimately caused Star Fraction to back down to prevent further morale damage to their pilots.
Originally by: Jade Constantine Amarrians realize this if I had the means to introduce poisonous snakes into your air conditioning ducts and kill you in your sleep be assured I'd be signing the orders right now. Consider yourselves lucky you have a ship's hull to protect you from my wrath most of the time.
Ah, but Amarr are about the methods first, not about the goals. A goal achieved by using a despicable method reduces a man. Your willingness to torture children, to do *anything*, to achieve your goal is abhorrent. This is not the Amarr way.
Originally by: Jade Constantine Now please lets put this ridiculous topic out of its misery and have the honesty to accept that everyone does what is neccessary to kill the enemy.
You speak lies founded in ignorance. I do not lie in order to kill my enemy. I do not break the rules laid down by God to kill my enemy. I do not disobey my superiors in order to kill my enemy. You may do such things, but not everybody debases himself in this way.
Once again, you touch upon the basis of Star Fraction hypocrisy. You are willing to do *anything* to bring about an 'Anarchist Society', even if it means employing methods that are directly opposed to your philosophy. And you continue to fail to see that it renders your ideology hollow and meaningless.
You may win some battles, but due to your lack of principles you cannot win the war. ____
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Merdaneth
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.12 16:24:00 -
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Maybe you two should speak to each other more:
Originally by: Jade Constantine
This is a war - in a war both sides seek what advantage they can get and will do whatever they can to fight with advantage. This is not a polite country-faire dance or game of holo-bowling on the galactic village green.
Any man or women in this warzone that claims they don't seek overwhelming advantage in war engagements is either a liar or a psychopath.
Hmmmm... advice to seek out an overwhelming advantage at all times. But just a few posts earlier another advice:
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
My advise? When you outnumber your enemies by 10 - 1 don't be so shy about aggressing in front of the guns. You can't expect everything to always go in your favour.
Does Star Fraction advice pilots to always engage at an overwhelming advantage or don't they? You suggest taking unnecessary risk on one hand, and suggest avoiding unnecessary risk at the other. Sibling argument? ____
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.05.12 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth Maybe you two should speak to each other more:
Originally by: Jade Constantine
This is a war - in a war both sides seek what advantage they can get and will do whatever they can to fight with advantage. This is not a polite country-faire dance or game of holo-bowling on the galactic village green.
Any man or women in this warzone that claims they don't seek overwhelming advantage in war engagements is either a liar or a psychopath.
Hmmmm... advice to seek out an overwhelming advantage at all times. But just a few posts earlier another advice:
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
My advise? When you outnumber your enemies by 10 - 1 don't be so shy about aggressing in front of the guns. You can't expect everything to always go in your favour.
Does Star Fraction advice pilots to always engage at an overwhelming advantage or don't they? You suggest taking unnecessary risk on one hand, and suggest avoiding unnecessary risk at the other. Sibling argument?
LOL, beat me to it bro. well done.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.12 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth Does Star Fraction advice pilots to always engage at an overwhelming advantage or don't they? You suggest taking unnecessary risk on one hand, and suggest avoiding unnecessary risk at the other. Sibling argument?
No contradiction. This thread is about an Amarrian crying foul at not getting an engagement to his advantage. I will always seek advantage when pressing a fight from my foe and doubtless the case with Jasmine also.
The advise given to Invelious was "take more risks" - I second that. I love enemies that take risks - makes them much easier to kill.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.12 18:21:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 12/05/2009 18:21:14
Originally by: Merdaneth
Anyone who believes this is stupid. Considering the virtual immortality and fast monetary resources of many pod pilots, this war is about morale as much as about attrition. Repeatedly thrashing your enemy with a supposedly inferior ship/fleet is excellent to hurt his morale.
One has only to look at your own war record to put the lie to that Merdaneth. Your favourite ride the Crusader is generally able to evade any enemy ship that can defeat you while taking victories from inferior ships foolish enough to engage you. You have mastered the art of taking essentially risk free victories against the Matari and I do not condemn you for it. You are fighting a war and culling the unwary. You are using the finest weapon you can field and utilizing it in the most effective way.
As I said you are taking every advantage you can take from the environment. That is the truth. Pretending otherwise simply makes you a liar as well as a slaver but I think we've already established that in your extensive dialogues with The Cosmopolite.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.05.12 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Merdaneth Does Star Fraction advice pilots to always engage at an overwhelming advantage or don't they? You suggest taking unnecessary risk on one hand, and suggest avoiding unnecessary risk at the other. Sibling argument?
No contradiction. This thread is about an Amarrian crying foul at not getting an engagement to his advantage. I will always seek advantage when pressing a fight from my foe and doubtless the case with Jasmine also.
The advise given to Invelious was "take more risks" - I second that. I love enemies that take risks - makes them much easier to kill.
What advantage? What we had is what we had and thats it, our enemies held the upper hand is the point i'm establishing, and yet, failed to act accordingly out of fear.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.12 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious What advantage? What we had is what we had and thats it, our enemies held the upper hand is the point i'm establishing, and yet, failed to act accordingly out of fear.
You have never left the station while your enemies have held the advantage Invelious. A creature with your limited attributes and stunted backbone is incapable of any act of bravery.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.05.12 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Invelious What advantage? What we had is what we had and thats it, our enemies held the upper hand is the point i'm establishing, and yet, failed to act accordingly out of fear.
You have never left the station while your enemies have held the advantage Invelious. A creature with your limited attributes and stunted backbone is incapable of any act of bravery.
Actually, we did, that night when our enemies hotdroped our frig fleet and we docked up, refitted into a proper counter fleet, and headed out knowning that not only was the enemy equal in numbers and ship size, but had capital support also
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crockett EXE
Minmatar Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.05.12 20:57:00 -
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Edited by: crockett EXE on 12/05/2009 20:57:43
Originally by: crockett EXE OOC comment removed - Mitnal
So what's the deal, we can post non click able links to kill boards but not click able ones? btw.. Seems dumb to edit the entire post when just the link could have been removed.
It's such a dumb rule any way.. it's not like everyone doesn't know where the KB's are..
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.05.12 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Invelious Actually, we did, that night when our enemies hotdroped our frig fleet and we docked up, refitted into a proper counter fleet, and headed out knowning that not only was the enemy equal in numbers and ship size, but had capital support also
And you always have the potential capital support of Amarrian Providence and the CVA block, so don't push it. We know this, you know this. Its war. No opponent of the CVA will ever consider a capital deployment or largescale fleet battle within range of Providence without planning against the possibility of huge Amarrian reinforcement.
Nobody complains about this its simply the way things stand in the warzone. But again it makes an absolute nonsense of your own plaintive bleating about being disadvantaged in the theatre.
Again I tell you fight with whatever advantages you possess and accept we'll do the same. Any complaints and hand-wringing beyond this are entirely pointless.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.05.12 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Invelious Actually, we did, that night when our enemies hotdroped our frig fleet and we docked up, refitted into a proper counter fleet, and headed out knowning that not only was the enemy equal in numbers and ship size, but had capital support also
And you always have the potential capital support of Amarrian Providence and the CVA block, so don't push it. We know this, you know this. Its war. No opponent of the CVA will ever consider a capital deployment or largescale fleet battle within range of Providence without planning against the possibility of huge Amarrian reinforcement.
Nobody complains about this its simply the way things stand in the warzone. But again it makes an absolute nonsense of your own plaintive bleating about being disadvantaged in the theatre.
Again I tell you fight with whatever advantages you possess and accept we'll do the same. Any complaints and hand-wringing beyond this are entirely pointless.
your right Jade, I hate to admit it, but i was wrong, and you were right.
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