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Ahz
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Posted - 2009.05.11 18:51:00 -
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Hi, I posted this idea a while back and it got a little interest. I'm reposting here to see if it's got legs.
I've always felt that you should be able to anchor a Titan like a POS. In this way: - A Titan pilot could leave the Titan anchored (returning would require a password) - An anchored Titan would go into reinforced just like a POS if attacked. It would use strontium in the same way - An anchored Titan could be used for ship refitting and jump bridging even when the Titan pilot was elsewhere - The DD would work only when the Titan was anchored and piloted (but could be used remotely) - An anchored Titan would not count as a POS in establishing sovereignty
Things are the size of POS's and stations. You should be able to use them in similar ways.
- Extra points if you can anchor structures off of it (weapons and such) in the same way you can a POS.
I know that there's a big sovereignty / cap warfare rebalancing promised. I think re-thinking the role of Titans should be part of that.
Please discuss.
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Rahjadan Shardur
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.05.11 21:19:00 -
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i for one love the idea to be able to use a titan as a POS. that would also give the titan pilot the ability to leave his ship.
on the other hand i will never fly a titan anyway so if the DDD gets reballanced that would be enough for me. ------------------ In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. (Douglas Adams) |
Trimutius III
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.11 21:28:00 -
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Nice idea... But 1) the same feature should be implented for Motherships then. 2) Such Thread should be posted in Features and Ideas Discussion forum ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius |
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2009.05.11 21:43:00 -
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Moved to Features & Ideas.
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.05.12 00:23:00 -
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Iteresting idea.
"- A Titan pilot could leave the Titan anchored (returning would require a password) - An anchored Titan would go into reinforced just like a POS if attacked. It would use strontium in the same way"
These seem ok, the rest seems a bit too much.
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Trimutius III
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.12 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lindsay Logan Iteresting idea.
"- A Titan pilot could leave the Titan anchored (returning would require a password) - An anchored Titan would go into reinforced just like a POS if attacked. It would use strontium in the same way"
These seem ok, the rest seems a bit too much.
No some others are good too... "- An anchored Titan could be used for ship refitting" It's quite reasonable because if u leave unpiloted Orca or Carrier on POS u can still use them to refit ships, so anchored Titan doesn't differs much...
And "- An anchored Titan would not count as a POS in establishing sovereignty" I don't think that this need additional mentioning. Titan isn't a POS why it may be counted as a POS? But he said "would not count" i agree with him... =) ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius |
Hawk Firestorm
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Posted - 2009.05.12 02:21:00 -
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I don't think titans or motherships should play any role in sov, I do however think they shouldn't be the prison ships they are now.
Motherships needs some attention they don't have the durability to cost justification over normal carriers or Titans.
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Renarla
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Posted - 2009.05.12 03:31:00 -
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I've never seen a titan in game and probably never will, but I like this idea. When I first heard about Titans this is basically how I envisioned them- mobile stations. However, on another note, I now have one of those annoying sigs. |
Lancard
Order of Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.05.12 06:59:00 -
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A big thumbs up from me.
I've always envisioned a Titan being a mobile station/POS. It is pretty disappointing to discover the most epic ship class in the game be used by only alliances, perhaps due to the complexity of the build, and neglected by the rest of the eve community because it has, arguably, minimal usefulness and serves as a tomb for a character.
I, personally, have no ambition to strive to pilot a Titan due to current game mechanics regarding them.
My far-fetched idea of a Titan: I live for the day I see a low-sec pirate corp basing operations out of a Titan. Imagine, your neighboring low-sec trade-hub suddenly invaded by <insert epic pirate corp>. They deploy their Titan right on the high-sec gate. Now that would be an epic/omgwtfbbq invasion that would send shivers up the back of the local economy, imo.
P.S. Let titans in low-sec with Concord aggro for added pew pew.
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Tibi
Zoners
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Posted - 2009.05.12 10:51:00 -
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I like a lot.
it's what i've always envisioned the titan role like, not the current game breaking DD abusing ****ty sods.
Would make them useful as tools in more ways thean simply locking down owning characters inside plus gives them initiative for better ideas (say Titan in orbit of a planet that u control boosts the morale on that planet, creating ****laod more isk for you) in the future.
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Trimutius III
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.12 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lancard
My far-fetched idea of a Titan: I live for the day I see a low-sec pirate corp basing operations out of a Titan. Imagine, your neighboring low-sec trade-hub suddenly invaded by <insert epic pirate corp>. They deploy their Titan right on the high-sec gate. Now that would be an epic/omgwtfbbq invasion that would send shivers up the back of the local economy, imo.
I doubt it will happen... Titans in lowsecs are used only for jump portals, because Doomsday doesn't work in lowsecs. And titans have only 3 special abilities: - Jump Portal - Doomsday Device (0.0 sec only) - Unique gang bonuses
that's it... Motherships have no special abilities already, and need a fix... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius |
aliescha
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Posted - 2009.05.12 12:39:00 -
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my idee on this case
Make Motherships/titans dock outside a station / outpost Rule 1or 2 ships at most Ships can be seen in space Ships are protected by the station shield If station shield drops to zero than the Motherships/titans can be captured
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Potrero
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2009.05.12 22:32:00 -
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Le Bump.
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aldarrin
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Posted - 2009.05.13 08:52:00 -
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I really like this idea. Also as extended to Motherships. This adds a viable alternative to the "do dedicate my high SP to only flying a Titan/MS or do I train/buy a character dock" question.
And for 50 bil isk, give or take, I think a little extra functionality isn't asking too much. -- Flame on. |
Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.05.13 10:14:00 -
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I think reinforced shouldn't be there. You risk 50 billion isk, if you are confident and you really need that- go for it, but you risk. Same functionality to motherships. Hm... |
ShadowDraqon
The Quantum Company
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Posted - 2009.05.13 10:34:00 -
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Ah, but let them count in acquiring sov. Only, you'd have to do a special "sovereignty anchoring" which would require anchoring V, a special module, and take like an hour to anchor. Then you could use the jump bridge to bring reinforcements right to the titan. It could not use it's DDD while sov anchored.
How does it sound?
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Trimutius III
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.13 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Maxsim Goratiev I think reinforced shouldn't be there. You risk 50 billion isk, if you are confident and you really need that- go for it, but you risk. Same functionality to motherships.
LOL... If there would be no reinforced then nobody will use this feature... Risk is like 50-100 bill ISK... (with fit) It's like 300 PLEXes, or like 150 GTC or like $5000. Nobody will risk that many money without insurance, and Reinforced is that thing that insure that pilot will have time to return to ship before it destroyed... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius |
ShadowDraqon
The Quantum Company
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Posted - 2009.05.13 11:04:00 -
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Edited by: ShadowDraqon on 13/05/2009 11:05:04
Originally by: Trimutius III LOL... If there would be no reinforced then nobody will use this feature... Risk is like 50-100 bill ISK... (with fit) It's like 300 PLEXes, or like 150 GTC or like $5000. Nobody will risk that many money without insurance, and Reinforced is that thing that insure that pilot will have time to return to ship before it destroyed...
EVEmail: This is an automated message. Your Titan anchored in [system link] is under attack and has entered reinforced mode.
Attacking parties: ...
Something like that?
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Hawk Firestorm
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Posted - 2009.05.13 11:58:00 -
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No one is going to leave a ship costing best part of a 100bil where it can be shot at, found or sieged, the problems to your proposal should be obvious.
Especially when a pos costs a fraction of the ammount and can fire back when it's unattended.
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: DeTox MinRohim on 13/05/2009 13:30:09
Originally by: Hawk Firestorm No one is going to leave a ship costing best part of a 100bil where it can be shot at, found or sieged, the problems to your proposal should be obvious.
Especially when a pos costs a fraction of the ammount and can fire back when it's unattended.
This - Anchoring a Titan would only be a big "COME KEEL MEH" message to everyone in Eve.
There must be other ways to reduce the "prison" feeling of them.
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ShadowDraqon
The Quantum Company
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Posted - 2009.05.13 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Hawk Firestorm ...where it can be shot at, found or sieged...
You mean space? This is so you can leave it without leaving it floating, and stealable.
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Trimutius III
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.13 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowDraqon EVEmail: This is an automated message. Your Titan anchored in [system link] is under attack and has entered reinforced mode.
Attacking parties: ...
Something like that?
LOL. Yes... I think anybody who will try to anchor Titan will get such message after 1-2 hours or even sooner, but not more then a day... So Titan will not be anchored for even single day... It's really good ataction come and kill anchored titan... But still titan pilot will be able to fly outside of titan for several hours... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius |
ShadowDraqon
The Quantum Company
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Posted - 2009.05.13 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Trimutius III It's really good ataction come and kill anchored titan...
It's a trap!
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Alexander Vallen
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Posted - 2009.05.13 17:01:00 -
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This has been suggested before.
Ship Anchoring in Space
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Ahz
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Posted - 2009.05.14 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Hawk Firestorm No one is going to leave a ship costing best part of a 100bil where it can be shot at, found or sieged, the problems to your proposal should be obvious.
Especially when a pos costs a fraction of the ammount and can fire back when it's unattended.
Good point.
Anchoring titans would have to provide a lot more benefits than simply allowing the pilots to undock or for other players to use it's jump bridge or re-fitting window when the pilot's not around.
Maybe: - Anchored titans allow friendly players to dock, just like a station? - Anchored titans and mother ships have armor and shield resists go to 99%?
I don't know. Still, it seems logical that they would have this ability given how big and expensive they are.
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ShadowDraqon
The Quantum Company
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Posted - 2009.05.14 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ahz - Anchored titans and mother ships have armor and shield resists go to 99%?
Give them the ability to go into reinforced mode while anchored.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.05.15 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: ShadowDraqon
Originally by: Ahz - Anchored titans and mother ships have armor and shield resists go to 99%?
Give them the ability to go into reinforced mode while anchored.
I say let mother ships cloak while anchored. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic |
Teras Menac
Gallente Action Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.15 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri
Originally by: ShadowDraqon
Originally by: Ahz - Anchored titans and mother ships have armor and shield resists go to 99%?
Give them the ability to go into reinforced mode while anchored.
I say let mother ships cloak while anchored.
This, and let people attach POS weapons to a Titan while anchored.
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