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Delkin
Amarr Shadow Raiders
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Posted - 2009.05.12 12:27:00 -
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Give it up Michael your not going to get anywhere, they are a major pain the text scrolls so fast its hard to keep up with either block or just to read it.
This all stems from the mooning exploit, now the dev/gm's cant spawn ferrogel out of thin air, they have to scam contracts to get isk now
Its getting harder for ccp guys to play their characters, the scout, cyno alt etc etc, I remember an old post when Oveur's alt was busted someone said if we knew their other mains we would lose all respect for them.
Just block them, lower your blood pressure
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.12 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Hoare There are 31 scam contracts here. . .including at least seven people who spammed multiple bogus contracts in the space of a few seconds. And add in the fact that these scammers are doing this 23/7 every single day makes me think more than a few of them are bots. . .and are'nt bots against the EULA?
Sure they are. So why are you bringing up the scams as the (irrelevant) topic of your petition? Why aren't you reporting them for (supposedly) obvious bot use and spamming? You are reporting them, right?
Quote: If CCP is uninterested in enforcing the rules fairly, then I suggest they stay the hell out of my way and let me fix this problem.
P.S. the 20 plus emails of support I recieved while I was spamming …
Well, you see, this is where you manage to answer your own question. You gladly admit to breaking the EULA in more ways than one, and is then surprised that you get gagged. Your previous posts seem to suggest that you're clogging up the petition queue with inaccurate reports in the wrong categories (and possibly on entirely legal activities). So I have to ask: how come you're surprised when you get nicked and they get away with it?
You're not fixing the problem — you are the problem. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Caius Sivaris
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.05.12 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Delphi Grendalus
Originally by: Babel Easy Solution =
CCP perma-bans anyone stupid enough to fall for a scam. In time, Natural Selection will do it's work and the evil scammers will have lost their customer base and stop ...
You would be banning a lot of old players from 2005 then as they make up the majority of people who fall for my scams.
char from 2005 != player from 2005
I've seen too many friend eBaying their chars upon leaving and said chars losing 50 IQ point. (I want the old Gaven Blands back!)
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Xianbei
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Posted - 2009.05.12 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Hoare Edited by: Michael Hoare on 12/05/2009 09:26:45 I was recently gagged for spamming Jita Local with blank space, in effect removing dozens of scam contracts from view.
It took about fifteen minutes.
Zydal,Eauelle, SciFi Jon, Comrade Sesk, Isogan Klipp and others have been spamming Jita constantly for DAYS on DAYS. . .
So I ask. . .why are'nt they being gagged for spamming? I know people complain about them. . .all the time. I bet there are fifty posts on this forum concerning spam contracts in local channel. And I am equally certain that the weight of petitions filed concerning scam contracts could break a small mule.
So again I ask, why was I gagged and not them? Why would CCP not want to see the rules applied evenly and fairly to everyone? And why was my thread concerning Anti-Scam tactics deleted? Not Locked mind you, deleted?
Could it be as I claim that some of these scammers are actually CCP alts?
I have been repeatedly informed that not only is this unthinkable, but impossible as well.
So I will not mention the CCP programmer who also a director for a major alliance. . . I won't bring up the moon mining exploit that CCP was aware of for FOUR YEARS before they corrected it. . .
Nope. . .I will just say, that in the interests of justice and fairplay, if you ban/gag/boot me then you MUST do the same to the people that spend all day spamming local channel with fake contracts.
P.S. You may as well save some time and make it a forever-gag. Until CCP makes serious and meaningful attempts to stop scammers. . .I will do it my way, by hook or by crook.
you and I, we are BAAAD people
i got a stern warning from CCP for....<GASP>...bumping a thread about improving something in game...<GASP>
they even emailed me about it with a threat to BAN me !
we are outcasts dude, face it. what we do is so much worse than the scammers, spammers and forum trolls that insult people and make sexually explicit comments
helping to clean up a chat channel and bring awareness to scams and spammers is not the kind of people CCP wants in their channels and forums
its the goonie revolution dude. up is down, right is left. good is bad, etc.
now you will be PRAISED for saying fofofofo over and over in local
its all cool bro
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2009.05.12 13:17:00 -
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By spamming blank lines you were a) censoring other players, b) interfering with trade, c) acting as a vigilante, d) displaying a lack of ability to use the gag command, and e) spamming.
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Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr Can't Decide Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.05.12 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 12/05/2009 09:37:20 Well, guess what: you're breaking the EULA; the scammers are not. CCP are not making any serious and meaningful attemps to stop scammers because their activity is entirely in line with the intentions of the game ù your disruption of the same game is not.
are you serious? you cant be...you have to be kidding.
how the hell did you manage to miss the huge thread chribba made a few days ago? how can a single person make 8k posts in one day (i might be wrong, check chribbas post for exact numbers), with i don't know how many posts per minute in exactly the same intervals?
how exactly is using third party applications not against the eula? there is nothing wrong with scamming, its legal, and if a scammer can find a target who will fall to his scam, well good for him. but he is not allowed to sPam local with his contract every minute of every day. and he is most certainly not allowed to do it with a macro.
next time, don't just try to be against somebody, think before you post!
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.12 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Xianbei
Originally by: Michael Hoare Edited by: Michael Hoare on 12/05/2009 09:26:45 I was recently gagged for spamming Jita Local with blank space, in effect removing dozens of scam contracts from view.
It took about fifteen minutes.
Zydal,Eauelle, SciFi Jon, Comrade Sesk, Isogan Klipp and others have been spamming Jita constantly for DAYS on DAYS. . .
So I ask. . .why are'nt they being gagged for spamming? I know people complain about them. . .all the time. I bet there are fifty posts on this forum concerning spam contracts in local channel. And I am equally certain that the weight of petitions filed concerning scam contracts could break a small mule.
So again I ask, why was I gagged and not them? Why would CCP not want to see the rules applied evenly and fairly to everyone? And why was my thread concerning Anti-Scam tactics deleted? Not Locked mind you, deleted?
Could it be as I claim that some of these scammers are actually CCP alts?
I have been repeatedly informed that not only is this unthinkable, but impossible as well.
So I will not mention the CCP programmer who also a director for a major alliance. . . I won't bring up the moon mining exploit that CCP was aware of for FOUR YEARS before they corrected it. . .
Nope. . .I will just say, that in the interests of justice and fairplay, if you ban/gag/boot me then you MUST do the same to the people that spend all day spamming local channel with fake contracts.
P.S. You may as well save some time and make it a forever-gag. Until CCP makes serious and meaningful attempts to stop scammers. . .I will do it my way, by hook or by crook.
you and I, we are BAAAD people
i got a stern warning from CCP for....<GASP>...bumping a thread about improving something in game...<GASP>
they even emailed me about it with a threat to BAN me !
we are outcasts dude, face it. what we do is so much worse than the scammers, spammers and forum trolls that insult people and make sexually explicit comments
helping to clean up a chat channel and bring awareness to scams and spammers is not the kind of people CCP wants in their channels and forums
its the goonie revolution dude. up is down, right is left. good is bad, etc.
now you will be PRAISED for saying fofofofo over and over in local
its all cool bro
talking about moderation and ban is against the forum rules =P lol
if you buy eve in a box from my game store i will give you isk (GAME , parkgate rotherham)
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Multipurpose Cleaner
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Posted - 2009.05.12 13:35:00 -
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If you spend a fair amount of time in Jita. You could try blocking some of them. Given some time you hardly them anymore and conversation is slightly normal. But then some idiot comes along and spams black spaces so I have to scroll up to see what was being typed means it's just lame.
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Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr Can't Decide Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.05.12 13:36:00 -
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i however fail to comprehend the "GMs are isk spammers" conspiracy...
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.12 13:37:00 -
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OFMG just minmise local jesus OMFG
some of you need brains =)
i would dontae mine but the amount of forum whorage that is in it will kill you
if you buy eve in a box from my game store i will give you isk (GAME , parkgate rotherham)
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Tellenta
Gallente Invicta. Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.05.12 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador i however fail to comprehend the "GMs are isk spammers" conspiracy...
I rather like that one.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.12 16:52:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 12/05/2009 16:52:25
Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
Originally by: Tippia Well, guess what: you're breaking the EULA; the scammers are not. CCP are not making any serious and meaningful attemps to stop scammers because their activity is entirely in line with the intentions of the game — your disruption of the same game is not.
are you serious? you cant be...you have to be kidding.
how the hell did you manage to miss the huge thread chribba made a few days ago?
I didn't. How did you manage to miss that that thread was about spam not scams?
Now that you've been informed about that, please reconsider this tidbit: "guess what: you're breaking the EULA; the scammers are not."
Quote: next time, don't just try to be against somebody, think before you post!
Yes, you really should. Think next time and figure out what's actually being said. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2009.05.12 17:47:00 -
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Huh? CCP are making money on the side selling macroing apps for EVE. Didn't you know that?
Seriously though, stop whining and make a few scams yourself to spam. It's a lucrative business taking every single penny people who bought isk have (honestly, who else looks in local of all places for a deal)... well, unless the isk seller it came from gets caught and the isk is confiscated, but that's a risk you simply have to run.
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Jer Bu
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Posted - 2009.05.12 17:56:00 -
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At this point I am pretty sure that it is the dev's at CCP who simply are not smart enough to figure out how to stop things like macro spammer and macro miners.
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Greg DaimYo
Caldari Unglueckliche Wiesel
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Posted - 2009.05.12 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Hoare So. . .lets say 40k spam/scam contracts a day. . .times four or six trade hubs. . . why thats about a quarter of a million scam/spam contracts every single day. I'm no computer genius, but I would think CCP would want to do something about this, just to save wear and tear on their system.
Now lets add in the fact that a certain percentage of people are going to rage-quit when they get scammed. . .
I will not go and start discussing numbers here, so whatever. But if you take your suggestion one step further and CCP jumps on your idea, they might as well forbid any ships that are shooting each other, because players interacting are a tremendous strain on the servers. And don't get me started on drones. I've read somewhere on the forums that they are real hamster-killers.
And for the people who are rage-quitting after they got scammed: Good riddance. I really don't know anyone who ever fell to a random jita-spam-scam, or maybe the person would just never admit it, because he was seriously intoxicated while his girlfriend was rageing at him for not caring for her, while his cat was trying to commit suicide in the bathtub and his seven months old baby was telling him, that he'd move out and go live in goa smoking weed all day or... I could go on, but I think you'll have the point by now which is:
Everone who falls for a scam made a horrendous and obvious mistake and the only person that can be blamed for it is the scammed person itself. The scammers are just playing the game.
You don't undock your dreadnought fitted with a large armor repairer, do you?
/rant off. I got a bit angry while typing this.
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SciFi Jon
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Posted - 2009.05.12 21:05:00 -
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How many threads similar to this do you need to have Michael. We get it. You got scammed now you are mad because you are an idiot.
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Weight What
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Posted - 2009.05.12 21:14:00 -
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I call Hoare**** :D
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Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.05.12 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: SciFi Jon How many threads similar to this do you need to have Michael. We get it. You got scammed now you are mad because you are an idiot.
you sir win a cookie
would you like it frosted
if you buy eve in a box from my game store i will give you isk (GAME , parkgate rotherham)
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2009.05.12 22:52:00 -
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I find black spacing a lot more annoying than contract spamming
why?
you make it harder to get blocked, that's why.
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Kaaii
Caldari KaaiiNet Holding Executor Corp
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Posted - 2009.05.12 22:56:00 -
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Its because of your movie...
ccp hates conspiracy theorist too
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Dear Abby
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Posted - 2009.05.12 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Concorduck 3 words
Limitless Block List
Seconded - and while they are addressing that how about some options to use standings to modify prices or restrict purchases, make standing be reflected in the market.
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CCP Mitnal
C C P
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Posted - 2009.05.13 00:33:00 -
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Locked.
Please do not discuss GM or Community Team actions on the forums. If you would like to discuss actions taken by a GM, please file a petition under rules and polices GM/ISD.
If you would like to discuss action on the forums, please file a petition under Other Issues, forums.
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