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Mad0ne
Caldari Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:11:00 -
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2 days ago cerberus could throw HAM-s about 40km range.
Now after the patch, missiles fly only 18km and if you -moving speed then missile is going only 13km TOPs!
Little boost to vagabonds since cerb could actually hit it hard time rather well?
new stats: 6.45s flight time, velocity 2812.5 m/s OLD STATS: 9.675 flight time, velocity 4218.75 m/s
I mean... if you are going to nerf cloak+mwd trick, fix some bugs, etc. How the hell do you end up ****ing up CERBERUS ship bonuses?
----------------------------------------------- Limit cloaks to cloaking ships! Or Make covert ops`s to scan prototype and improved cloaks!!!
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Doomed Predator
The Graduates Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:13:00 -
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You sure you weren't using Javelins before? The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again |
Mad0ne
Caldari Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:14:00 -
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Edited by: Mad0ne on 15/05/2009 10:15:08 100% sure :(
Terror rage assault missile ----------------------------------------------- Limit cloaks to cloaking ships! Or Make covert ops`s to scan prototype and improved cloaks!!!
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:16:00 -
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HAMs and the bonuses from the Cerberus have not been changed. You are doing it wrong, most likely using T2 ammo.
Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
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logeoff now
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit HAMs and the bonuses from the Cerberus have not been changed. You are doing it wrong, most likely using T2 ammo.
Which part of bugged do you not understand?
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: Mad0ne Edited by: Mad0ne on 15/05/2009 10:15:08 100% sure :(
Terror rage assault missile
Bolding your fail. Try show info and reading. P. embarrassing for an alliance with a good pvp record.
Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
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Cash Loki
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:18:00 -
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Are you sure about this, because I fly the Cerb as well and if this is true there goes three months training down the tube. Ive maxxed out my HAC skill and Heavy assault missle skills to lvl5
Could we get a another confirmation from a Cerb pilot. I would check myself but Im broke.
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Mad0ne
Caldari Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:19:00 -
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Edited by: Mad0ne on 15/05/2009 10:21:48
Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Mad0ne Edited by: Mad0ne on 15/05/2009 10:15:08 100% sure :(
Terror rage assault missile
Bolding your fail. Try show info and reading. P. embarrassing for an alliance with a good pvp record.
You really should ask some cerb pilot how it was 2 days ago.
Anyway what is the difference then between sacrilege and cerberus since both throw hams same range except one cant tank or do anything else that sacri does!?
According to two days old missile / ship bonus stats:
Cerberus can shoot RAGES about 40km and JAVELINS almost 70 KM.
----------------------------------------------- Limit cloaks to cloaking ships! Or Make covert ops`s to scan prototype and improved cloaks!!!
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The Yzzerman
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:20:00 -
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I can confirm the the op must be really drunk
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Mad0ne Edited by: Mad0ne on 15/05/2009 10:21:48
Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Mad0ne Edited by: Mad0ne on 15/05/2009 10:15:08 100% sure :(
Terror rage assault missile
Bolding your fail. Try show info and reading. P. embarrassing for an alliance with a good pvp record.
You really should ask some cerb pilot how it was 2 days ago.
Anyway what is the difference then between sacrilege and cerberus since both throw hams same range except one cant tank or do anything else that sacri does!?
According to two days old missile / ship bonus stats:
Cerberus can shoot RAGES about 40km and JAVELINS almost 70 KM.
Cerb description and patch notes have not indicated any change involving HAMs or range bonuses. If something is amiss, BUG REPORT it. Whining on forums in broken english doesn't accomplish anything.
Originally by: CCP Whisper So you're going to have to do some actual thinking with regards to hull components and their capabilities instead of copying some cookie-cutter setup. Cry some more.
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Mad0ne
Caldari Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Mad0ne Edited by: Mad0ne on 15/05/2009 10:21:48
Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Mad0ne Edited by: Mad0ne on 15/05/2009 10:15:08 100% sure :(
Terror rage assault missile
Bolding your fail. Try show info and reading. P. embarrassing for an alliance with a good pvp record.
You really should ask some cerb pilot how it was 2 days ago.
Anyway what is the difference then between sacrilege and cerberus since both throw hams same range except one cant tank or do anything else that sacri does!?
According to two days old missile / ship bonus stats:
Cerberus can shoot RAGES about 40km and JAVELINS almost 70 KM.
Cerb description and patch notes have not indicated any change involving HAMs or range bonuses. If something is amiss, BUG REPORT it. Whining on forums in broken english doesn't accomplish anything.
No **** sherlock?
Did any patch notes indicate that battleships can now instawarp? ----------------------------------------------- Limit cloaks to cloaking ships! Or Make covert ops`s to scan prototype and improved cloaks!!!
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The Yzzerman
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:28:00 -
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No **** sherlock?
Did any patch notes indicate that battleships can now instawarp?
duh
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Marquis Zenas
m3 Corp Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:30:00 -
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Oh dear... -------------------------- Sigless |
Turumutt
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:35:00 -
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Cerberus missile bonuses seems not to apply indeed.
I can confirm this.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:36:00 -
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Cerberus is designed for Heavy Missiles. Sacrilege is designed for HAMS. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
^Third Times a Charm^ |
Terrutder
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:37:00 -
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O rly, thanks for clearing this out
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Aneu Angellus
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:37:00 -
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CCP strike again! ________________ Dark Angel Battalion
Aneu Angellus
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Turumutt
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:43:00 -
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before patch
lvl5 skills
T1 ammo: 45km T2 ammo: rage 40km T2 ammo: javelin 68km Faction: 45,6km
Today
T1/T2 rage,javelin/Faction: 18km
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Wai Ng'Tse
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:50:00 -
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I just had a friend check EFT, and yes ~41kms is the range with Terror rage assault missile... :S
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero Cerberus is designed for Heavy Missiles. Sacrilege is designed for HAMS.
It has a bonus to both and I'm not seeing anything in the patchnotes about a change.. so what gives? (not that I'd ever fit HAMs to a Cerb but there's no reason to take the bonus away)
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DeODokktor
Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: DeODokktor on 15/05/2009 10:51:02
Originally by: Blane Xero Cerberus is designed for Heavy Missiles. Sacrilege is designed for HAMS.
cerb bonus
"Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Heavy Assault and Heavy Missile flight time and 5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire per level"
Not too sure what your on about. ----------- Never Forget |
Turumutt
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:54:00 -
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Edited by: Turumutt on 15/05/2009 10:55:45 To be more percice:
Caldari Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Kinetic Missile damage and 10% bonus to Missile velocity per level
Heavy Assault Ship Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Heavy Assault and Heavy Missile flight time and 5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire per level
Seems that both bonuses at the moment does not take effect.
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Mad0ne
Caldari Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.05.15 11:04:00 -
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Edited by: Mad0ne on 15/05/2009 11:06:18 Edited by: Mad0ne on 15/05/2009 11:04:15
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Blane Xero Cerberus is designed for Heavy Missiles. Sacrilege is designed for HAMS.
It has a bonus to both and I'm not seeing anything in the patchnotes about a change.. so what gives? (not that I'd ever fit HAMs to a Cerb but there's no reason to take the bonus away)
IMO cerberus is really good gank ship since 40km HAM range was soooooo hard hitting vs. fast ships, all classes. Once inty got scrammed or webber, cerb just literally pulverized em.
Havent tested this missile bug with HM-s yet but if HM-s are bugged also then imo caldari as race should be deleted - would be better for everyone :D
Would be special fun if cerb could do all types of damage equally as sacrilege but I think this is too much to ask :S ----------------------------------------------- Limit cloaks to cloaking ships! Or Make covert ops`s to scan prototype and improved cloaks!!!
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.15 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Originally by: Blane Xero Cerberus is designed for Heavy Missiles. Sacrilege is designed for HAMS.
It has a bonus to both and I'm not seeing anything in the patchnotes about a change.. so what gives? (not that I'd ever fit HAMs to a Cerb but there's no reason to take the bonus away)
As it stands right now, i know nobody who would bother using HAM's on a cerberus. They gimp the fittings, the range means you are either going toe-to-toe (which the Sacrilege does better, with more survivability and a shred more dps if using non-kinetic ammo) or sitting on the edge of range (40-50km) in which case you might aswell use heavies and save on fittings.
Im not arguing that this needed to change, or if its even intended, i was simply making a remark based on personal experience to be honest. If CCP did intend on changing this bonus then i wouldn't contest the decision, If its just a bug i'd be just as passive about it.
I was just bored and making a pssive comment ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
^Third Times a Charm^ |
Mad0ne
Caldari Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.05.15 11:10:00 -
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Yeah I see your point, I fly both ships and love em.
But as soon as anything gets out of sacris range which is 16km tops then he got away for good!
Sacri missile flight velocity is 2800 smth. imo and missile is not able to catch fast ships.
but cerberus missile should fly almost 5k m/s which makes it ideal punch in da face for nanoers. ----------------------------------------------- Limit cloaks to cloaking ships! Or Make covert ops`s to scan prototype and improved cloaks!!!
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Wotlankor
Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.15 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Mad0ne Edited by: Mad0ne on 15/05/2009 10:15:08 100% sure :(
Terror rage assault missile
Bolding your fail. Try show info and reading. P. embarrassing for an alliance with a good pvp record.
Right about here in this post is where a big boy would say sorry for being rude...
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.15 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Mad0ne Yeah I see your point, I fly both ships and love em.
But as soon as anything gets out of sacris range which is 16km tops then he got away for good!
Sacri missile flight velocity is 2800 smth. imo and missile is not able to catch fast ships.
but cerberus missile should fly almost 5k m/s which makes it ideal punch in da face for nanoers.
Most of the time if something is beyond 24km, its warping away unless i have a tackler, in which case it certainly inst -getting- to 24k
Mind you, i never fight in scenarios where bubbles are preventing anything within the best half of a system from getting off grid, so i suppose that might be the cerberus' "Cover range".
Its all moot in my eyes as i sold my cerberus a couple of weeks ago ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
^Third Times a Charm^ |
Thercon Jair
Minmatar Nex Exercitus Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.05.15 11:50:00 -
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I'm not flying a cerb, but it's entirely possible that CCP messed up the ship in the patch, even though it was not touched in any way. Just ask a Nidhoggur pilot if he thinks it's cool that he can currently only launcher 5 drones or 5 fighters, instead of 10. Real men do it the hard way: fly Minmatar! |
Mad0ne
Caldari Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.05.15 12:03:00 -
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Seems that downtime fixed the issue. Thank you ccp!
My thingies fly 40km again. ----------------------------------------------- Limit cloaks to cloaking ships! Or Make covert ops`s to scan prototype and improved cloaks!!!
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Neacail
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Posted - 2009.05.15 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Neacail on 15/05/2009 12:04:02 Most likely an unintended side effect (read: bug) caused by the patch. Bug report it and it'll be fixed soon(TM).
Edit; Oh it's been fixed.
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