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WallyWorld79
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Posted - 2009.05.22 01:05:00 -
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One of my inactive accounts received that email as well. CCP is giving a one day pass and hopes that you spend that $300 M isk on a time card to extend for another month.
Here's a theory...Are too many people playing for free (with PLEXs) and "somone" not happy and bumping up the price? Bump up the PLEX price too high and people will have to start paying to play. |
EVEHelpisSeriousBusiness
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Posted - 2009.05.22 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: WallyWorld79 One of my inactive accounts received that email as well. CCP is giving a one day pass and hopes that you spend that $300 M isk on a time card to extend for another month.
Here's a theory...Are too many people playing for free (with PLEXs) and "somone" not happy and bumping up the price? Bump up the PLEX price too high and people will have to start paying to play.
I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter and/or pyramid scheme.
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Nathaniel Brix
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Posted - 2009.05.22 01:53:00 -
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Interesting idea, but CCP doesn't really care how you pay for your account as someone had to pay for the initial PLEX to start with. And, lets be honest, most of the people who pay for their accounts using PLEX are hardcore people with a couple of accounts, otherwise known as the hardcore player. The hardcore sort who make the game interesting by making things, causing big battles etc...that give people interesting things to talk about. Now if CCP suddenly put a short time limit on every PLEX (this PLEX best used before 1/1/10) then I could see how a possible conspiracy could happen --drive the price up so no one will buy them, then cancel the out of date ones--but besides that I think we can go with the manipulation of markets...and you can see cracks already starting on that --Jita has a top buy order of around 371k, but Lonetreck has a high of 331...think the marketeer is narrowing his focus to pull as much isk as possible out of Jita before it goes south...
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Gabriel Rosencrantz
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Posted - 2009.05.22 02:45:00 -
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Well, the price flirted with 390mil. but the low sell is now 371 and highest jita buy is now 362mil. and dropping all in 3hours. manipulation. let's see this mythical email. |
Dariah Stardweller
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Posted - 2009.05.24 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Rosencrantz Well, the price flirted with 390mil. but the low sell is now 371 and highest jita buy is now 362mil. and dropping all in 3hours. manipulation. let's see this mythical email.
It has gone even higher the past 2 days. Wondering how bad it will get, I can't afford 400 million isk PLEXes...
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Iridescent Moon
Caldari Iridescent Dawn
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Posted - 2009.05.24 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dariah Stardweller It has gone even higher the past 2 days. Wondering how bad it will get, I can't afford 400 million isk PLEXes...
Only fools buy a PLEX in Jita to use. Don't be the fool.
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Dariah Stardweller
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Posted - 2009.05.25 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Iridescent Moon
Originally by: Dariah Stardweller It has gone even higher the past 2 days. Wondering how bad it will get, I can't afford 400 million isk PLEXes...
Only fools buy a PLEX in Jita to use. Don't be the fool.
How that may be true, if PLEX price goes up in Jita, the rest of the galaxy soon follows. My point was: it might be stabilizing just under 400. Though I hope it will crash soon I'm not getting my hopes up :)
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Iridescent Moon
Caldari Iridescent Dawn
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Posted - 2009.05.26 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dariah Stardweller
How that may be true, if PLEX price goes up in Jita, the rest of the galaxy soon follows. My point was: it might be stabilizing just under 400. Though I hope it will crash soon I'm not getting my hopes up :)
That is true but, if consumers stay away from the Jita PLEX market all you have is marketeers selling to each other. They play a game of musical PLEXs and when someone is left holding the bag the market crashes hard. Then everyone wins... accept the sucker holding 10 years worth of PLEX.
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Martosh Toma
Gallente Fraction Investment
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Posted - 2009.05.26 07:25:00 -
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with tyhe new plex for fanfest passes offer prices may very well remain as they are now. a new demand has been created afterall
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.05.26 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: WallyWorld79 One of my inactive accounts received that email as well. CCP is giving a one day pass and hopes that you spend that $300 M isk on a time card to extend for another month.
Here's a theory...Are too many people playing for free (with PLEXs) and "somone" not happy and bumping up the price? Bump up the PLEX price too high and people will have to start paying to play.
stupid theory
in fact the more people play for free, the more money CCP earns.
How is this? ehr... 2 of those PLEXes cost 35 bucks, this means someone paid 17.5 bucks to CCP for each PLEX. And you know regular subscription is less than 17.5 per month right???
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Dariah Stardweller
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Posted - 2009.05.27 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Martosh Toma with tyhe new plex for fanfest passes offer prices may very well remain as they are now. a new demand has been created afterall
Errr? What?? You can buy fanfest tickets via plexes now??
If that is the case I would say that would certainly drive the price up yeah....
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Iridescent Moon
Caldari Iridescent Dawn
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Posted - 2009.05.27 21:12:00 -
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PLEX for fanfest will not change things as much as you would think. You have to take the number of people that are going to fan fest, have not bought tickets, have the ISK and wish to spend it on Fanfest tickets. The number is limited. I think that CCPs reason for doing this is that Fanfest tickets are probably sold in Kroner and PLEX are in ether Pounds or Dollars. The PLEX program is a hassle for them but they get better, more stable, currency out of it.
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Slave 2739FKZ
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Posted - 2009.05.27 22:08:00 -
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Confirming we need more russian tycoons selling GTC for isk.
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.05.28 19:02:00 -
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rofl at lemmings intelligence.
buy orders for 380m in jita 4-4. Hilarious.
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Mystafyre
Caldari Dark Materials Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.05.28 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Roland Deschaines Hey. PLEX prices have gone UP recently. a lot. They're closer to 400 mil than 300 mil these days. Does anybody know why, and where this is headed?
Macros got new graphic cards?
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.05.28 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mystafyre
Originally by: Roland Deschaines Hey. PLEX prices have gone UP recently. a lot. They're closer to 400 mil than 300 mil these days. Does anybody know why, and where this is headed?
Macros got new graphic cards?
I had a spit take |
Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.06.01 09:16:00 -
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theyre going down again. Yay!!!1
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Dariah Stardweller
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Posted - 2009.06.01 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Delerium theyre going down again. Yay!!!1
They are? As far as I can tell it seems they have reached some sort of plateau.
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Digital Broker
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Posted - 2009.06.03 06:57:00 -
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we've some down trend on plex's in jita atm, but 5d avg just crossed 20d, so in few days we will see if it is something that will last for a longer, or its just a correction.
someone seems to be a bit scarred tho, just take a look on the timecode bazaar and those fake wtb: 60d gtc for 850m threads. yeah right, ppl just love to pay 100m more than jita sell prices.
imo this baloon wount last for a long, and when it'll break, prices will drop like a bag of rocks (just take a look on history prices graph, 6 months period, and this beautifull waterfall after the end of speculation).
so if you sit on big stash of plexes, dont let the greed fool you
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.06.03 09:15:00 -
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Broker has summed it up quite nice. Even a rabid lemming should be able to figure out what is happening by looking at 6 month PLEX graph. The shape of market is almost the same back then as it is now.
I do think however that this previous wave was not only PLEX manipulation in game. It is one section where real life economicks does indeed have some effect on ingame EVE market. Timecodes have also been historically affected by life rythm of your average player - ie if it's summer vacation time or not. If you look at discussion threads about timecodes for past few years.
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.06.03 18:40:00 -
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FWIW, in the last few days it's been relatively easy to get a daily jita downward price cascade and not quite as easy to lemming the buys back up.
The only time people dogpile 1-2 unit buys on is when the profit margin approaches 15%. And it doesn't stay that way long if I have anything to say about it. And in summary, bigger blobs are the answer. Now what was the question? |
Packs Merlau
Killer Carebears
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Posted - 2009.06.03 18:59:00 -
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It's interesting to note that the prices for PLEXes are higher in Jita than they are in the regional hubs (380s vs 360s). But that might be part of the fluctuation for all i know.
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Sir SmellyFart
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.03 19:29:00 -
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In my home region I noticed a small downwards correction the last few days but they have leaped up again today. I say the price is stabilizing at the 350-400 pricepoint and will stay there at least till the summer holidays.
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Dzil
Caldari Waffles Reloaded
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Posted - 2009.06.03 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sir SmellyFart ....
Thank you, Sir SmellyFart, for that brilliant insight.
------------------------------ In EVE, when someone undercuts you, they're a lemming.
When you undercut someone else, it's skill/effort/manipulation.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.06.04 03:41:00 -
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No one ever listens to me sometimes.
I told you all 30 days ago that it should stabilize around 350 to 370 I think. |
Sir SmellyFart
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.04 10:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dzil
Originally by: Sir SmellyFart ....
Thank you, Sir SmellyFart, for that brilliant insight.
Like everyone else I'm just throwing rocks and hoping I'll hit something.
I wish I had like 10 billion isk though, so I could try and profit from all this PLEX manipulation
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Dzil
Caldari Waffles Reloaded
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Posted - 2009.06.04 17:14:00 -
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If you have money to prepay your EVE account, you could very easily profit from this manipulation.
1. Pay $$ for a plex. 2. Sell the plex for ISK. 3. When the market crashes, buy the plexes back and put them towards your account.
This is why I'm very surprised someone would attempt to manipulate the PLEX market - its the one market you can short sell.
------------------------------ In EVE, when someone undercuts you, they're a lemming.
When you undercut someone else, it's skill/effort/manipulation.
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Cergorach
Amarr The Helix Foundation
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Posted - 2009.06.05 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sir SmellyFart
I wish I had like 10 billion isk though, so I could try and profit from all this PLEX manipulation
Yeah right, earn a billion by investing 10 billion and hoping that it will pay off in three weeks. You can easily earn a billion (in three weeks) with investing less then a billion, by trading other goods that have a far higher turn over rate...
You manipulate PLEXes with a few 100 billion isk.
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Sir SmellyFart
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.07 14:33:00 -
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Edited by: Sir SmellyFart on 07/06/2009 14:33:27
Originally by: Cergorach
Originally by: Sir SmellyFart
You can easily earn a billion (in three weeks) with investing less then a billion, by trading other goods that have a far higher turn over rate...
My market knowledge is not that good so I myself can't...
BTW: it seems they are getting pushed up slightly higher even atm.
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Breaker77
Reclamation Industries New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.06.09 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Breaker77 on 09/06/2009 22:44:34
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria No one ever listens to me sometimes.
I told you all 30 days ago that it should stabilize around 350 to 370 I think.
Well they are now 450-500 million in Essence on sell orders with buy orders at 387 million.
I have not bothered checking Jita yet.
edit: Jita sell 440, buy 407 million
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