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Roland Deschaines
Minmatar Esquires Of Questionable Intention
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Posted - 2009.05.17 14:40:00 -
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I heard buying Capital Ship BPOs gave good returns. So I suppose you just passively make BPCs and contract 'em off?
Two questions: 1. Is there another similar way of investing money - ie no risk / trust involved, as I manage all the money / goods myself? Are any more profitable, or requiring less ingame skills (manufacturing here for example)?
2. How does this work? I mean - what corp or alliance can afford to buy a BPC and and build a Capital but not to buy a BPO and make copies?
Any comments welcome.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.05.17 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Roland Deschaines
2. How does this work? I mean - what corp or alliance can afford to buy a BPC and and build a Capital but not to buy a BPO and make copies?
You'd be surprised at how many do.
Capital construction has a pretty high entry barrier and requires some pretty heavy logistics to get accomplished. A headache that quite a few alliances don't bother with. |
glas mir
Reaction Scientific
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Posted - 2009.05.17 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Roland Deschaines
1. Is there another similar way of investing money - ie no risk / trust involved, as I manage all the money / goods myself? Are any more profitable, or requiring less ingame skills (manufacturing here for example)?
There is always risk involved, with a BPO cranking out BPC's your risk is generally in the initial purchase and transportation (which can be outsourced to a courier for a good rate) and in the collapse of demand for your BPC and of value for your BPO.
obviously there are other ways of investing your isk. Trading, manufacturing, even investing in a mission running ship or a mining set up come to mind. That is not a complete list. If you are trying to get really good returns you don't want to look at banks or ipos or bonds till you can't use all your capital.
researching and copying blueprints is not very skill intensive, neither is trading. However both can be more capital intensive than other areas of isk generation in the game.
As for your second comment is more about the extremely long research times that make a bpc purchase rational, just in time manufacturing.
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Bloody Rabbit
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Posted - 2009.05.17 19:20:00 -
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The pay off is in the years of continuing copying. As for why, read the threads about alliances getting robbed left and right and that is your answer. It is easier and safer to just buy the copys from someone who has the private high sec labs set up to do it, the with so many people doing it and the entry cost 10 billion + and the one month or more to copy a single print run people prefer to out source it.
I have gone into it because I'm becoming more and more inactive and its better than sitting the isk in my wallet, plus I have 30+ billion in resources that I have to keep invested which works for me to copy capital BPOs.
I would not want start a IPO copying as the time to research is a few months and then 30+ days to get a full copy of all the BPOs needed to build a single capital ship. Plus you have to sell your BPC against others who have researched BPOs for 6 months or more which has no pay off.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2009.05.17 19:51:00 -
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The money in this was years ago, now it's paltry profits... not worth my time to do it even though I still have 20+ BPO's from when I used to run POS's and spend lots of time doing it. Them sitting idle is easier for me than spending my time getting em going for the small returns.
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Chaos Dreams
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Posted - 2009.05.17 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle The money in this was years ago, now it's paltry profits... not worth my time to do it even though I still have 20+ BPO's from when I used to run POS's and spend lots of time doing it. Them sitting idle is easier for me than spending my time getting em going for the small returns.
Since they're so worthless to you, give them to me.
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Bloody Rabbit
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Posted - 2009.05.18 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Dreams
Originally by: Shadarle The money in this was years ago, now it's paltry profits... not worth my time to do it even though I still have 20+ BPO's from when I used to run POS's and spend lots of time doing it. Them sitting idle is easier for me than spending my time getting em going for the small returns.
Since they're so worthless to you, give them to me.
I think his point is it was worth it a few years ago, but now its over saturated and not worth getting into.
For those of us who have had the BPOs for a few years or so they have paid for themselves and now are just an asset class which can not be taken from us. But if I was actively playing in the markets, I would trade not copy/research capital BPOs as the return is nothing compared to trading or building or any other active pass time.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.05.18 05:33:00 -
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1. As someone had said before, Capital BPC market is so saturated that it's not even worth having to sell max run BPCs. Here's a market tip for you: Covetors.
2. You have to do careful market research, when I was considering doing freighter production, I ran into several issue; logistics and razor sharp profit margin. So, some corporation purchase cargo bay and construction blueprint simply because cargo bay and construction component make up the bulk of freighter production.
Things to look for, what component is more common and what component is expensive
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Sophie Daigneau
CAPITAL Assistance in Destruction Society GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.18 12:35:00 -
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I buy bpc's all the time for some of my components since I have several that produce 77 units a week, but my hull production requires 78-100 a week, and its cheaper to build those incremental components than buying another whole original blueprint.
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Roland Deschaines
Minmatar Esquires Of Questionable Intention
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Posted - 2009.05.18 15:42:00 -
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Thanks a lot for the input. I'll stay away from investing until I do more research then.
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Bloody Rabbit
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Posted - 2009.05.18 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Roland Deschaines Thanks a lot for the input. I'll stay away from investing until I do more research then.
I do have a private deal setup that I sell a set of BPC but it takes looking for alliances or big corps that have a constant demand for those capital ships. Best thing to do is make friends and see if they need something done for them.
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