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john rolen
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Posted - 2009.05.19 03:59:00 -
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So we know now that there are crews on the eve ships mainly the bship and we know that most of the main activities of the ship are carried out by the captain from the pod so anyone have speculation on the make up or hull of the eve ship. Like does no one see the pilot or does he comunicate, if any, through broadcasts is there even a command dec and if so what is done there n whats the job of the crew?
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Reimei Kaminamida
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Posted - 2009.05.19 04:05:00 -
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Read the Jovian Wetgrave short story that ISD people wrote. It gives a groundwork for exactly how pod/crew interactions might work. The captain in the pod obviously has to give commands to his crew, so he does so through the communication relays in it. It would make sense for there to be some sort of command crew, though a bridge crew may or may not be necessary given how much data the capsuleer can process. It says they can handle the jobs of 5-10 people. They obviously wouldn't see the pilot since he's in a pod that is somehow fitted to a bay inside the ship that can readily eject and accept new pods. So wherever the pod is is likely an isolated airlock sort of area. But a officers would be necessary to manage crew, so there would probably be some sort of command deck.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2009.05.19 08:49:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 19/05/2009 08:52:08 All larger ships have some sort of crew mostly maintenance people. The amount of crew can vary as some captions have implants in the crew and they take over the crews body. Others use drones and AI. Some use slaves. Others use normal humans and communcate though the ship. Most crew never see the Pod pilot, most pod pilots see themselves as Elite and the humans lesser beings not worth talking to.
There is no reason you cannot have a ship like the Domi and have vastly different crew styles. Thinks like navigation, reloading turrets, aiming, firing, controlling the flow of energy around the ship. Changing energy/cap levels. Are all things done via the Pod pilot and AI but in some cases there are humans behind. ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.05.19 10:18:00 -
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How the Captain interacts with his Crew if at all, depends on the likes of the Capsuleer.
Some of the more social Capsuleers, might project their image on installed Monitors, while talking to a specific Crewmember, or even use installed Holoprojectors, to project their image into a room. (A bit like in Andromeda. Only that a Rommy-like-Avatar represents the Capsuleer).
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.19 11:36:00 -
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A capsuleer plugged in effectively IS the ship, and presumably capable of speaking via an array of internal comms systems, or even to the personal communicators of each crew member.
It'd probably be a matter of personal preference for the pilot in question. Some would communicate only the bare minimum required for the functioning of the ship, others might view themselves as being a part of the crew, but apart from it as well.
If you want to read something that I think might sum up capsuleer/crewman interections perfectly, go read the "brainships" books by Anne McCaffrey. Especially "The City who Fought", "PartnerShip" and "The Ship who Searched". preferably in that order. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
Qhorin Halfhand
Amarr Amon Initiative
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Posted - 2009.05.19 16:14:00 -
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The way I figure it is every time a command is given in the ship interface (i.e. right click on guns - reload) it sends a signal to the appropriate section of the ship. Now whether this is via voice, video, text, or any other means of communications is up to the individual capsuleer. One could also argue that the majority of the commands we do in game can be automated by some sort of robotics and A.I. But really I think its up to your imagination to decide how you want your ships setup. ------------------------------------------------ It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets. ~Voltaire, War |
Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.05.19 21:25:00 -
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my understanding is that the pod only replaces the bridge crew. and infact some ships still have a bridge, it just isnt in use.
interaction would likely be via monitors or holo systems. however in Combat id imagine its just like a real world warship, the captain doesnt have to bark orders to everyone because everyone knows what they need to do. loading crews make sure the gun loaders are working(id imagine there is no human interaction for loading a 1400mm arty lol).
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Esna Pitoojee
Amarr TalCorp Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.05.20 01:19:00 -
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Something to remember is that ship needs might not only vary widely between races (for instance, Gallente ships are stated to be heavily relyant on automation technology due to the lack of available bodies) but also by ship class.
The Dominix, for instance, is stated to be a relic of the Caldari-Gallente war - around 200 years ago, if I remember correctly. Even assuming for refits, it probably needs considerably more crew than, say, the Hyperion, which is relatively new and so compatible with updated electronic controls.
Assuming the old comprehensive ships designs published some time ago are still 'canon,' the basic concept of the Armageddon-class ship may be up to 500 years old; the Prophecy hull may be even older. However, a ship built in the last year or so will almost certainly be interlaced with much more advanced systems that a ship built centuries earlier - if any such ships are still around.
Finally, what about modules? Might a tech 2 gun need less crew, simply because it is newer and built with updated components? Or might it actually need more, to regulate the advanced components. |
Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.05.24 16:09:00 -
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well just look at startrek, those ships had rather huge crews too. you just rarely saw anything other then the officer staff as they didnt exist as part of the story.
im sure our ships have their red shirts too.
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john rolen
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Posted - 2009.05.31 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker well just look at startrek, those ships had rather huge crews too. you just rarely saw anything other then the officer staff as they didnt exist as part of the story.
im sure our ships have their red shirts too.
funny actually saw startrec and thats what made me think of this i could see the bridge but then just had to stick a pod in the middle insead of a captains chair =P main thing though was finding out what things crew did and what stuff is done by the pod captain. or rather if anyone other than the captain stays in the bridge
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