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FrenchBob CheesePants
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Posted - 2009.05.21 02:08:00 -
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Is OP an alt of Lanna Torrin?
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2009.05.21 02:08:00 -
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Edited by: Lana Hellfury on 21/05/2009 02:08:34 Confirming I want to PvP in a Vigilant. Donations to the Lana Torrin fund for Vigilant PvPing can be made in game.
OP is NOT my alt..
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FrenchBob CheesePants
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Posted - 2009.05.21 02:11:00 -
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Edited by: FrenchBob CheesePants on 21/05/2009 02:12:31
Originally by: Lana Hellfury Edited by: Lana Hellfury on 21/05/2009 02:08:34 Confirming I want to PvP in a Vigilant. Donations to the Lana Torrin fund for Vigilant PvPing can be made in game.
OP is NOT my alt..
But Lana Hellfurry is....
EDIT: Begins training Acute Grasp of the Obvious to Level 2 Queues Spelling 2...
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2009.05.21 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: FrenchBob CheesePants Edited by: FrenchBob CheesePants on 21/05/2009 02:12:31
Originally by: Lana Hellfury Edited by: Lana Hellfury on 21/05/2009 02:08:34 Confirming I want to PvP in a Vigilant. Donations to the Lana Torrin fund for Vigilant PvPing can be made in game.
OP is NOT my alt..
But Lana Hellfurry is....
EDIT: Begins training Acute Grasp of the Obvious to Level 2 Queues Spelling 2...
OMG YOU FOUND ME OUT!!! /o\
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FrenchBob CheesePants
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Posted - 2009.05.21 02:18:00 -
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On Topic: Train for certs if you CBA to figure out specific skills to train. ECM is your friend.
The unadulterated hatred caused by ECM is delicious.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.05.21 02:28:00 -
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Spanks Troll Rating: Pathetic
The quality of my replies is directly related to the QQuality of the opÆs comments |
Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2009.05.21 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: FrenchBob CheesePants On Topic: Train for certs if you CBA to figure out specific skills to train. ECM is your friend.
The unadulterated hatred caused by ECM is delicious.
Despite some really stupid flaws in logic, the lower end certs (ie, the basic ones) are actually pretty good. I recommend all the basic core ones, the basic tanking ones for the ships you are flying (CBA to re-read) and the basic ones for the guns your are using. That's a minimum.. Try for standard (except don't bother with 'standard' targeting as it needs multitasking 1 for some reason) and you might not get your ass kicked.
Also, no one with a face is allowed to post anymore..
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Lexa Hellfury
SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.05.21 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Hellfury
Originally by: FrenchBob CheesePants Edited by: FrenchBob CheesePants on 21/05/2009 02:12:31
Originally by: Lana Hellfury Edited by: Lana Hellfury on 21/05/2009 02:08:34 Confirming I want to PvP in a Vigilant. Donations to the Lana Torrin fund for Vigilant PvPing can be made in game.
OP is NOT my alt..
But Lana Hellfurry is....
EDIT: Begins training Acute Grasp of the Obvious to Level 2 Queues Spelling 2...
OMG YOU FOUND ME OUT!!! /o\
Navy Vexor is better btw.
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Agile Nakajima
Minmatar Freelance Tax Inspectors
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Posted - 2009.05.21 11:54:00 -
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Despite my failure to grasp the canflipping aggro mechanic, I can give you some advice about learning to PVP. Fit cheap ships, go to lowsec, and lose them. A T2 and best-named fit rifter is going to cost you five or ten times as much as a cheapfit one, and you'll still lose it against pilots who have more skill and experience than you.
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FlyinS
Caldari Planetary Industry and Trade Organization
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Posted - 2009.05.21 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: MeestaPenni This is a very interesting thread.....OP lays it out straight up....asks good questions....is clearly puzzled about the "what up"....and suddenly, it turns into jagoff central.
This entire sub-forum is composed of one or the other....."flame every new thread"....or, "post lame insipid doodles over and over again".....
Yeah forums were always bad but they've definitely taken an even sharper turn downward lately.
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.05.21 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: FlyinS
Originally by: MeestaPenni This is a very interesting thread.....OP lays it out straight up....asks good questions....is clearly puzzled about the "what up"....and suddenly, it turns into jagoff central.
This entire sub-forum is composed of one or the other....."flame every new thread"....or, "post lame insipid doodles over and over again".....
Yeah forums were always bad but they've definitely taken an even sharper turn downward lately.
Schools are starting to break up
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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FlyinS
Caldari Planetary Industry and Trade Organization
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Posted - 2009.05.21 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: FlyinS
Originally by: MeestaPenni This is a very interesting thread.....OP lays it out straight up....asks good questions....is clearly puzzled about the "what up"....and suddenly, it turns into jagoff central.
This entire sub-forum is composed of one or the other....."flame every new thread"....or, "post lame insipid doodles over and over again".....
Yeah forums were always bad but they've definitely taken an even sharper turn downward lately.
Schools are starting to break up
Valid point.
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Karma97731
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Posted - 2009.05.21 17:15:00 -
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Thanks to all the people who responded seriously to my posts. I've decided to continue to train all of my PvP pilots, and switched back to my Industrialist characters (yuck!) until my warrior pilots are trained up enough to be able to dish it out and take it in a fight.
There were a lot of good suggestions mentioned here that I will totally heed, and take to heart. With that said its now time to take my 8 accounts of miners and go mine ice. How @#$%@! boring, but at least I will make a profit.
Being an industrialist sucks eggs.
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Karlemgne
Tides Of War
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Posted - 2009.05.21 19:37:00 -
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LMAO!!
8.5/10
Good job. My sig don't fracking work. |
Labelo Blanco
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Posted - 2009.05.21 22:10:00 -
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If this board had a gold star/flag/brucie bonus option, I would surely use it for this thread. Karma, troll or not, please continue to write about your exploits against the Pretty Pony Princess Corp and the rest of EVE. Don't take the fitting ships/experience/tactics thing to seriously just have fun, kill or be killed and type it down. maybey a video or two, the special guest appearences will sort themselves out. you could even nomimate a nightmare char as your chosen foe for the month, get invited to titan flyby's and float the roughnecks on the markets. Whatever you do troll or genuine thankyou for the entertainment so far. 50mil war-dec versus an alliance using 2 rifters a probe and a shield tanked vexor is pure legend.
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Karma97731
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Posted - 2009.05.22 00:19:00 -
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Once again I say to all of you that I am not a troll. I started this thread because I was ****ed for getting owned so completely by that creep flying the Thorax/Vigilante. It was not a pleasant experience for me to get 3 ships blown out from under me in a space of 1 minute, 36 seconds. That sort of experience is reason enough to rub anyone the wrong way, and to add insult to injury that Thorax flying creep had the nerve to say "Good Fight" which only increased my anger. I guess that's just the way it goes some times...
One of my industrialist characters have the training to fly covert ops ships, and also able to use the covert ops cloaking device. Do you realize how maddening it is for an industrialist to fly around in 0.0 security space unhindered while visiting an asteroid field? Very maddening especially when we see moon-sized veldspar that look like it would take a hulk all day just to mine one of them, and not to mention all of the other high valued ores. We can't get at them because:
#1 We started our eve careers, and stupidly only focused on industrial training. *I'm guilty here*
#2 Not all, but many of us thought that eve was all about ISK acquisition. *I'm guilty here also*
#3 Never bothered to find a way to defend ourselves because it would mean more training time. *Guilty as charged*
#4 The horror of losing a ship *Guilty*
My new thinking is that if I want to have at the minerals down in low sec, and 0.0 security space, I'm going to have to take the long route and train for PVP, and pirating to the point where I can beat up people like the best of them, and eventually one day be able to fly around, and fight in 0.0, or mine if I want to without being all freaked out that some ship load of Yarrr's are going to discover I'm there, and blow up and pod my ship to kingdom come. My new thinking is if that ever happened hopefully I would be able to fight back a little and make THEM lose a ship or 2 before they take me down, but it is clear that I'm a LONG way away from that day.
For now I will just keep training my PVP ships until I have strong enough skills, and then go through that annoying, but much needed PVP and pirating training, and maybe hangout with people who are more experienced who will be willing to show me the ropes, but for now I'm once again back to mining,trading, and manufacturing stuff for other people who have the skills, and the confidence to call themselves pirates and PvPers.
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Benju
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Posted - 2009.05.22 02:31:00 -
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Edited by: Benju on 22/05/2009 02:32:50 Ok Karma, my friend showed me this thread and even though i'm not much more experienced with eve, i will give my basic crash course on what i think you should do.
1. have a plan other than "win" going into the fight. for example have all of your fleet fit with sensor damps and at least a web or two. That way your target won't be able to lock any of your ships from any real range and will be webbed down so it can't get any closer. maybe tracking disruptors against turret based ships (like a real thorax). take your pick, but have a plan.
2.if you want to get to 0.0... you need to find an alliance, relisticly it's the only way. at this poit you've tarnished your name too much to really expect it, but if you have isk or the ability to get it, try what someone else said and take any of the actual PvP tutorial offers a lot of alliance (like agony) are offering. being agony certified will give you experience and training and looks nice on your app for a 0.0 alliance.
3. as other people have said... join faction warefare. FW is a good way to get experience in PvP in small gang and fleet battles. you can pretty much decide "i wanna pvp" go into miltia and join a fleet whenever you want, or feel safe(ish) in high-sec
just my thoughts.
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Misanth
The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.05.22 04:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Spanks Troll Rating: Pathetic
Still 3 pages and going. I was gonna do a 0/10 but obviously I need to re-consider that now. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2009.05.22 04:36:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Lady Spank Spanks Troll Rating: Pathetic
Still 3 pages and going. I was gonna do a 0/10 but obviously I need to re-consider that now.
Yeah but its pretty much 3 pages of people telling him that its a **** post..
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Misanth
The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.05.22 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Hellfury
Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Lady Spank Spanks Troll Rating: Pathetic
Still 3 pages and going. I was gonna do a 0/10 but obviously I need to re-consider that now.
Yeah but its pretty much 3 pages of people telling him that its a **** post..
Trolling has quite a wide meaning. Feeding it is the only thing that it has in common.. in that regard it's successful.
That it's pretty obvious and crappy is another matter. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
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Lana Hellfury
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2009.05.22 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Lana Hellfury
Originally by: Misanth
Originally by: Lady Spank Spanks Troll Rating: Pathetic
Still 3 pages and going. I was gonna do a 0/10 but obviously I need to re-consider that now.
Yeah but its pretty much 3 pages of people telling him that its a **** post..
Trolling has quite a wide meaning. Feeding it is the only thing that it has in common.. in that regard it's successful.
That it's pretty obvious and crappy is another matter.
This is true. So are you rating it on its trollingness or its content?
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Misanth
The Glenn Quagmire Finishing School for Young Ladies Eternal Rapture
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Posted - 2009.05.22 05:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Hellfury This is true. So are you rating it on its trollingness or its content?
I say I rate coffee > other drinks. - I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
Father Yarrr
Church of Yarrr
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Posted - 2009.05.22 06:32:00 -
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the answer to your title question is rage quit You die for your corp. I'll be the one killing you for mine. |
Agnostos Theos
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Posted - 2009.05.22 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Karma97731 Once again I say to all of you that I am not a troll. I started this thread because......
For now I will just keep training my PVP ships until I have strong enough skills, and then go through that annoying, but much needed PVP and pirating training, and maybe hangout with people who are more experienced.....
Look up a corporation called Southern Cross Empire
Our little group specialises in taking industrial, carebear and noob players and turning them into a coherent fighting force. With a solid industrial backing (meaning roughly 1000 T1, fully fitted, cruisers donated to training operations every month) we can afford to take players very new to PvP into areas they've never seen before and have them make pwerdy bangs. You'll lose a lot of ships (if you bother to insure them you'll actually make a profit though) and you'll get podded regularly (so get your jump clones going if you use implants) but I promise you that you'll have more fun doing it then you've ever had shooting at rocks. And by the time you're ready to leave SCE you WILL be a PvP pilot... I'm not around much at the moment but contact any SCE, SCT or SCI pilot in game and they'll happily answer any questions....
Fly Dangerous & FIGL
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Poreuomai
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.22 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Karma97731 Vigilante? It was a Thorax, or was shaped like a Thorax.
I just did a ship check and you are right.
Don't feel too bad, I thought I was up against a Stabber in my 1st PvP outing and it turned out to be a Vagabond.
Worse mistakes have been made, like the scout (or FC?) I read about who reported 5 T1 ships on a gate and his whole gang jumped in only to die to the T2 variants which were actually there.
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Edith Bunker
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Posted - 2009.05.22 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Syringe
Originally by: Karma97731 ...and the Vexor with the shield tank.
Eh, I think I found yer problem, mac. That'll be $42.50.
Yep, I cringed when I read that.
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Lisento Slaven
The Drekla Consortium
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Posted - 2009.05.22 15:15:00 -
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You need to hang out with some people who are experienced at fitting ships and using them. The problem is not your choice of ships or your bait (the ships you had COULD take out a Vigilant) but rather the setups and tactics used in the fight.
I would say if you really don't want to join just a laid back pvp corp that just kills stuff randomly and learn about setups and tactics etc. then your best bet is to read up on ship setups. Go to the Ships & Modules section on these forums and check out the ship setup index. Leeeaaaaarn about the ships you are going to be fighting with and against. Are they typically close range? Are they typically long range? Missile boats? Drone boats? Gun boats? Could I take out a close-range gank boat like the Vigilant in a raw dps fight with T1 crappy ships, or should I bring in some e-war to tip it in my favor?
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Put in space whales!
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