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Gallente SoldierTest
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Posted - 2009.05.26 02:27:00 -
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Edited by: Gallente SoldierTest on 26/05/2009 02:28:10 mispost
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Friedrick Psitalon
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.05.26 02:28:00 -
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Edited by: Friedrick Psitalon on 26/05/2009 02:30:53 FOOM did this immediately after noting how a Caracal survived in Villore, but we turned it into something of an art form, killing over 20 faction BS/marauders in the first week. Hunting dried up dramatically in both Motsu and Jita after our show got really nasty, though, so we decided to let the entire GalMil on it - hence the GalMil raid on Nourv once upon a time.
Since we're not coming back to Facwar for a very long time, if ever - until certain issues are resolved which appear to be unaddressed intentionally - here's a list of our tactics, briefly summarized
1. Small four-ship groups with one member decloaking first to take the aggro for all four on a gate and being repped by the other three. (No new spawns.) 2. Neutral reppers, tankboat at safespot, rinse aggro. (pre fix) 3. Faction reppers, tankboat at safespot, rinse aggro, abuse NPC willingness to proximity aggro a shooting target to hold the spawn. (post fix) 4. Flood system with more ships than spawns, keep the "hitlist" ships moving constantly, others are free to move about.
If we were first or most famous with it or not is for others to discuss. I'm just glad to hear of anyone who's making sure Empire isn't safe for people who signed up for a wardec.
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.05.26 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Mykpilot Where can I get the video?
Several of us got FRAPS but I at least am hard pressed to find time to do anything about mine just now... |
Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.05.26 09:49:00 -
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Edited by: Kuolematon on 26/05/2009 09:55:06
Originally by: Furb Killer Just stupid that ccp doesnt bother fixing the faction navy. (dunno if they here just used RR BS, or that they needed other tricks to do it).
Send me 100mil ISK and I can show you with screenshots how its done. I'm bored for that tactic anyway.
Originally by: Damar the Infamouse Then the gate bug hit me, I had to quit and woke up in clone bay. Suffice to say I was somewhat annoyed, especially since I still dont have any kind of lossmail for my pod....
So you installed implants, yes? You promised to me few days ago you would not do it
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Unfamed II
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Posted - 2009.05.26 10:25:00 -
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Friendly bump and rl pic of me
Originally by: Sandslinger of CA
So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
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Tosi
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.05.26 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Just stupid that ccp doesnt bother fixing the faction navy.
There's nothing wrong with faction navy. if CCP wanted highsec be safe there would be concord or you couldn't go trough gates ;P --- Bad Messenger does not play god. Playing is for children. |
Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.05.26 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tosi
Originally by: Furb Killer Just stupid that ccp doesnt bother fixing the faction navy.
There's nothing wrong with faction navy. if CCP wanted highsec be safe there would be concord or you couldn't go trough gates ;P
This. Btw, killing in hisec is loads of fun without any "trickery" (RR etc) as well... Just hop in to a Dessie, a BC or a HAC and go pop ****! (My fave is the Deimos but I'd suspect a Zealot would be best if I had Lazor skills)
No Trickery in the end of this --- WOLFY is recruiting!
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.05.26 11:20:00 -
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It has been hard to do highsec killing lately, jump bug has owned many pilots finally
I hope they manage to fix that.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.26 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tosi
Originally by: Furb Killer Just stupid that ccp doesnt bother fixing the faction navy.
There's nothing wrong with faction navy. if CCP wanted highsec be safe there would be concord or you couldn't go trough gates ;P
Bull****, if the faction navy was meant to be completely meaningless they wouldnt have added them in the first place. The idea is fine, you can enter the high sec of the opponent, but you have to deal with npc agro, that was what ccp wanted. But right now that isnt the case.
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.05.26 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Messenger It has been hard to do highsec killing lately, jump bug has owned many pilots finally
I hope they manage to fix that.
True, but I have faith that today or *VERY SOON* they will have it fixed.
On another note, I got frustrated and logged last night when a whole fleet of 15 enemies suddenly dissapeared from my overview instantly with just a crow left, and many of the fleet had been only 20-40 away from me just a moment earlier... And no, they did not warp off, they had just warped to the crow in pursuit of me so they could have not all been aligned... Either it was "the overview bug" or some really wacky grid issue. Very annoying nevertheless. Losing my ship and/ or pod to combat is fine, but (jump/ overview) bugs and "reloading" lag I don't like...
Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: Tosi
Originally by: Furb Killer Just stupid that ccp doesnt bother fixing the faction navy.
There's nothing wrong with faction navy. if CCP wanted highsec be safe there would be concord or you couldn't go trough gates ;P
Bull****, if the faction navy was meant to be completely meaningless they wouldnt have added them in the first place. The idea is fine, you can enter the high sec of the opponent, but you have to deal with npc agro, that was what ccp wanted. But right now that isnt the case.
Have you ever thought that some designers at CCP might actually find this post of yours amusing and a sign of a job well done? :P --- WOLFY is recruiting!
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.05.26 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: Tosi
Originally by: Furb Killer Just stupid that ccp doesnt bother fixing the faction navy.
There's nothing wrong with faction navy. if CCP wanted highsec be safe there would be concord or you couldn't go trough gates ;P
Bull****, if the faction navy was meant to be completely meaningless they wouldnt have added them in the first place. The idea is fine, you can enter the high sec of the opponent, but you have to deal with npc agro, that was what ccp wanted. But right now that isnt the case.
I think NPC navy is working fine.
You can do fast gank on weak targets like untanked t1 haulers by solo.
If you want to have total control of system you need bigger gang and good planning. It is still so hard to get full control of navy that people are not willing to do it all time. And big fleets should be noticed easfly by enemy, so only stupid careless players die by those fleets.
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eddie valvetino
Caldari Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.05.26 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Messenger It has been hard to do highsec killing lately, jump bug has owned many pilots finally
I hope they manage to fix that.
/signed
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eddie valvetino
Caldari Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.05.26 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Messenger
Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: Tosi
Originally by: Furb Killer Just stupid that ccp doesnt bother fixing the faction navy.
There's nothing wrong with faction navy. if CCP wanted highsec be safe there would be concord or you couldn't go trough gates ;P
Bull****, if the faction navy was meant to be completely meaningless they wouldnt have added them in the first place. The idea is fine, you can enter the high sec of the opponent, but you have to deal with npc agro, that was what ccp wanted. But right now that isnt the case.
I think NPC navy is working fine.
You can do fast gank on weak targets like untanked t1 haulers by solo.
If you want to have total control of system you need bigger gang and good planning. It is still so hard to get full control of navy that people are not willing to do it all time. And big fleets should be noticed easfly by enemy, so only stupid careless players die by those fleets.
/signed again with a big smile
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.26 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 26/05/2009 13:20:27
Quote: You can do fast gank on weak targets like untanked t1 haulers by solo.
If you want to have total control of system you need bigger gang and good planning. It is still so hard to get full control of navy that people are not willing to do it all time. And big fleets should be noticed easfly by enemy, so only stupid careless players die by those fleets.
If that was true, i would fully agree with you. But sadly it isnt true. (The easiest option, getting a logistics alt which isnt attacked by faction navy is not what i call a big fleet).
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Parmenides Elea
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.05.26 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Edited by: Furb Killer on 26/05/2009 13:20:27
Quote: You can do fast gank on weak targets like untanked t1 haulers by solo.
If you want to have total control of system you need bigger gang and good planning. It is still so hard to get full control of navy that people are not willing to do it all time. And big fleets should be noticed easfly by enemy, so only stupid careless players die by those fleets.
If that was true, i would fully agree with you. But sadly it isnt true. (The easiest option, getting a logistics alt which isnt attacked by faction navy is not what i call a big fleet).
As soon as a neut reps a fw member in hi sec they get a faction spawn and are flagged to the opposing fw side. Both pervs and wolfy have checked with ccp to make sure the way we are doing this is how they intended. They have confirmed that its all ok and within the intended rules and is definatly not a sploit! The fact that we had a 14 man gank bs fleet in motsu for over 2 hours with no resistance from the caldari is hardly our fault is it.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.26 15:52:00 -
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I dont say it is an exploit, and i am sure ccp says it is intended (they always say that), but why would alts which are in the FW be attacked when they help in enemy high sec space, but if you just use an alts outside the militia it will be completely ignored my the npc ships. When they rep an enemy FW ship, they should just be treated like a new enemy FW ship.
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Unfamed II
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Posted - 2009.05.26 15:58:00 -
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It's so easy to failcascade the entire highsec gank. I think the risks involved are quite huge, if your enemy knows what to do.
Originally by: Sandslinger of CA
So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
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Xianbei
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Posted - 2009.05.26 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer I dont say it is an exploit, and i am sure ccp says it is intended (they always say that), but why would alts which are in the FW be attacked when they help in enemy high sec space, but if you just use an alts outside the militia it will be completely ignored my the npc ships. When they rep an enemy FW ship, they should just be treated like a new enemy FW ship.
you have been told at least twice at this point that this is not the case
a NON-FW alt will draw aggro from NAVY if he reps
stop being so dense
the navy mechanic is fine. as stated above, if the navy was supposed to respond in the same manner that concord does, they would have made the navy respond the same way concord does.
is that redundantly clear enough ?
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Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.05.26 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Parmenides Elea You guys had less than 10, we had over 40. I think we just showed YOU how to do it :)
Are you honestly this stupid? ___________________
ENEMA, much love. <3 |
Parmenides Elea
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.05.26 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: Parmenides Elea You guys had less than 10, we had over 40. I think we just showed YOU how to do it :)
Are you honestly this stupid?
Perhaps you should note the smiley at the end of the sentance. PERVS and WOLFY enjoy a good smack and most of the time its all with tongue firmly in cheek and very light hearted.
The only person who looked stupid is you, troll!
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Intigo
Amarr Endemic Aggression Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.05.26 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Parmenides Elea
Originally by: Intigo
Originally by: Parmenides Elea You guys had less than 10, we had over 40. I think we just showed YOU how to do it :)
Are you honestly this stupid?
Perhaps you should note the smiley at the end of the sentance. PERVS and WOLFY enjoy a good smack and most of the time its all with tongue firmly in cheek and very light hearted.
The only person who looked stupid is you, troll!
I was asking. ___________________
ENEMA, much love. <3 |
IronGoldenEagle
Orchestrated Violence Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.26 17:53:00 -
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Confirming that my CHinese slaves are quitting FW now, 近义词 卑鄙的人!!!!
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jag
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.05.26 18:58:00 -
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Its the 16 days to get an alt on inty v thats a pain
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Dibsi Dei
Salamyhkaisten kilta
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Posted - 2009.05.26 19:41:00 -
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Nerf caldari stations!
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.05.26 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dibsi Dei Nerf caldari stations!
/Signed --- WOLFY is recruiting!
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Hurtado Soneka
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.05.26 20:22:00 -
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lol well played, no self respecting militia member does missions in motsu anyway, this is a nice way to clear out the garbage
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.05.26 21:02:00 -
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For some reason I find this "practical invasion" where there's a tangible effect worthier than PvEing plexes in low sec.
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Raimo
Gallente Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.05.27 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha For some reason I find this "practical invasion" where there's a tangible effect worthier than PvEing plexes in low sec.
Oh, we got some nice faction loot. Not *awesome* when split between the bunch of us but not bad either... And yes locking down their ISK making was well worth it, awesome fun tbh. --- WOLFY is recruiting!
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Unfamed II
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Posted - 2009.05.27 12:32:00 -
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I'm not saying what you did was nothing, it was indeed very nice. But personally, I like this a lot: linky The gang composition turns me on \o/
Originally by: Sandslinger of CA
So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
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Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.05.27 13:48:00 -
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And while you were raiding hi-sec, how many systems feel?
Pick Three: Caldari/PVP/Solo/Success |
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