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SentryRaven
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.25 08:45:00 -
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Ello! :D
Currently, Titans have two specific uses when being flown, either being a huge logistics ship, moving a fleet from point A to B via a cynosural portal / jump bridge, or as an offensive weapon when firing a Doomsday device.
(I will not count using the DD as a defensive means, as it actually uses the old "Offense if the best defense" proverb)
So my idea I just got from a troll thread, is the "Mobile Shield Bubble Device".
The key features I have in mind:
- Device creates a shield bubble around the titan, around 10-15km large into all directions (obviously, its a bubble)
- Bubble does not allow locking from outside (through the shield perimeter) and does not allow ships from the outside to enter, unless in fleet.
- Shield does NOT repel hostiles inside the shield, e.g. it would not push out ships that are within range of the bubble and locking each other inside the shield is permitted.
- The Titan can be locked and the shield can be "taken down" by the hostiles outside the shield with enough firepower, before the timer of the Bubble ends
- 2x cool down compared to duration of bubble (15min bubble - 30 min cooldown, etc)
This would allow the fleet to regroup and buy them a few minutes before the bubble goes down again.
Drawbacks: Dunno on this part, obviously there needs to be a certain risk, so a -100% speed attribute while the device is active might seem appropriate. I'll leave that one open for discussion and input.
Discuss!! --------
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111010110
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Posted - 2009.05.25 08:55:00 -
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So .... an 80 billion isk ship to keep a small group of conventional ships safe-ish for 15 minutes or until hostiles bring a capital blob (whichever lasts the shortest) while being unable to move.
Got any better, serious ideas?
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SentryRaven
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.25 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: 111010110 So .... an 80 billion isk ship to keep a small group of conventional ships safe-ish for 15 minutes or until hostiles bring a capital blob (whichever lasts the shortest) while being unable to move.
Got any better, serious ideas?
Welp, it's a good point, but sometimes, the few additional minutes or seconds are what turns a battle's outcome.
It's a tactical decision the pilot and FC needs to make, and a risky one, yes.
Nevertheless, thanks for pointing it out, there IS a risk vs reward issue that needs to be looked at. --------
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Eriandia
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Posted - 2009.05.25 09:04:00 -
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Who says a capital blob.
I've seen an all sub-cap fleet take down a titan in minutes.
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SentryRaven
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.25 09:06:00 -
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The concept exists in another game already:
Nexus - The Jupiter Incident
--> Fortress Shield --------
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111010110
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Posted - 2009.05.25 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: SentryRaven
Originally by: 111010110 So .... an 80 billion isk ship to keep a small group of conventional ships safe-ish for 15 minutes or until hostiles bring a capital blob (whichever lasts the shortest) while being unable to move.
Got any better, serious ideas?
Welp, it's a good point, but sometimes, the few additional minutes or seconds are what turns a battle's outcome.
It's a tactical decision the pilot and FC needs to make, and a risky one, yes.
Nevertheless, thanks for pointing it out, there IS a risk vs reward issue that needs to be looked at.
Let's see.
Risk: dead titan by locking it down on a field where normal groups of conventional ships can melt one in minutes. Reward: a few guys get to have a safe-ish afk moment without having to set up a POS.
Seriously man ...
Yes, I think CCP should explore options on area effects, but not like this :P |
Eriandia
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Posted - 2009.05.25 09:16:00 -
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Better yet, yes, let's implement it.
After a few months of titan attrition, no one will use it anymore, and we have less titans.
Win-Win
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SentryRaven
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.25 09:18:00 -
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Well this is why i have put this up for discussion, not as a final concept, you know?
Obviously, you would need to make the fortress shield (I'll call it that way from now on) separated from the Titan shield and efficiently stronger or more resistant for it to have any tactical advantage. You'd also have to make sure that you cannot launch it after you have dropped a Doomsday or it would allow a DD and then the Titan to enter something like Siege.
Then again, multiple Titans might mean you can perma-shield your fleet, which again would not be what this is intended for. I currently don't have a solution to that, but I am sure people would come up with ideas. --------
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Kell Braugh
Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 09:21:00 -
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Originally by: SentryRaven The concept exists in another game already:
Nexus - The Jupiter Incident
--> Fortress Shield
oh, well, if it exists in another game, then surely it much be implemented in EVE - In essence, any combat related activity involving damage has been 'speed nerfed' to just take 6 times longer with a predetermined outcome coined balance by CCP. |
SentryRaven
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.25 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kell Braugh
Originally by: SentryRaven The concept exists in another game already:
Nexus - The Jupiter Incident
--> Fortress Shield
oh, well, if it exists in another game, then surely it much be implemented in EVE
:) Wasn't my argumentation. Was thinking that some people might know the game and could draw a comparison or see what I am thinking about.
Only cause there is Orcs in WoW, I wouldn't suggest we add them to our stations, you know? ;) --------
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Captain Zemo
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Posted - 2009.05.25 11:34:00 -
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Could work better as a mod that (only) heavy dictors can fit. |
Lewyrus
Jugis Modo Utopia Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.05.25 11:43:00 -
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If you guys brainstorming about titans, please think about how your ideas would work when not one, but fourteen (not so arbitrary number as it may look like) titans are on the same grid and on the same side.
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SentryRaven
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.25 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lewyrus If you guys brainstorming about titans, please think about how your ideas would work when not one, but fourteen (not so arbitrary number as it may look like) titans are on the same grid and on the same side.
Yeah, that is a huge problem, as you could prolly perma-shield a fleet then..... |
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