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Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:51:00 -
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Don't know if you've ever been to w-space but as a matter of fact drones work fine. Actually the dominix is one of the best ships to have available there. |
Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:20:00 -
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Obviously a turret ship has to kill frigates too. Now what do you think are they using? Exactly, their drones. Just that they don't have that 50% bonus to drone damage and hitpoints. And that huge bay for spares.
So how exactly is this "unfair"? As a matter of fact the turret user has less micromanaging but greater chance of dieing to scrambling npcs on a bad day.
Not to mention ccp will most certainly alter the mission spawns anyway once they deploy the new ai to the old npcs. |
Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.27 09:47:00 -
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Domis are the best ships for wh space. Did you ever consider that other ships (i.e. turret ships) need to drop their main weapons in favour of remote repair/energy transfer? Domis don't have that problem which is why they make a great grunt work for wh space. Add in a few dps ships (that you guessed right only survive because of the domis) and you're set.
I see no one here complaining how "unfair" it is that a domi can fit a full rack of rr/energy transfer and still maintain 350-400dps where other ships cannot (reasonably). So lets just make everything fair game and convert domi to a turret ship?
Ships have advantages and disadvantages. If you can only see the disadvantages of a domi in wh space then you're braindead. End of story. --
Originally by: Jasper Dark
I agree! Lets go back into caves and lick rocks!
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Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.27 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Alxea
It has been explained countless times that rr-ing drones wile trying to maintain your own tank?,
Pardon? I am certainly not talking about rr or energy transfer for your drones. So i don't understand that argument.
Originally by: Alxea
having to scoop up your say senturies since thats the only possible option you have since heavys/mids/lights get webbed and are out of RR range when they are primaried and insta pawned.
Yeah, sentries is the way to go for the most part. I didn't imply anything else so again i don't understand your point.
Originally by: Alxea
It will work agenst your sub sleeper spawns in hidden gas belts or hacking sites. Is not a well working plan to the say a sleeper fortress... that can be taken out with a nighthawk or such a ship thats a missile platform with no management at all.
Put that same scenario in a class 3+ and nighthawk looks like crap. (You won't solo those plexes so thats were rr comes into play.) You know which ship is awesome under those circumstances? Yup, the domi. As i said ships have advantages and disadvantages.
Originally by: Alxea
But when a BS takes a hit at your standing still sentury drone it does 2000+ damage to it cus it has no tank. What do you do then? When your down to sentury's and frigs are going around you at 15km away and you can shoot all day and not hit them.
Sentries aren't supposed to hit frigates. I know how to pilot a drone ship and i am familiar with different drone types and their usage. Again i don't see your point.
Originally by: Alxea
File for a stuck partition or turn off your tank and just let the frigs kill you then pod yourself?
So what does a turret ship do that loses its drones to sleepers? Yup, it dies. Large turrets do not hit frigates(just like your sentries). Don't go into sleeper sites that you cannot reliably complete. I am not saying its great to micromanage your drones - because its not. That doesn't mean there is a problem necessarily.
Not to mention scrambling hardly happens even up to class 3 but thats off topic.
Originally by: Alxea
ROFL Been there, done that. Not so with a missile boat. How many times does this have to be repeated. Light drones fail quickly when frigs keep primarying them and they are webbed with 40 km webs by 5 different frigs and shot at wile your being shot at by them, they go down pretty quickly out of your RR range.
And how do the drones of a turret boat survive again? Pretty much a miracle given how (allegedly) even bonused drones get "instapopped". Its bull****. Even the unbonused light drones on my abaddon don't get instapopped not even mentioning my domi. And thats in class3+. If you manage to get all your light drones killed then you're not a skilled pilot either in terms of sp or player skill.
Originally by: Alxea
Did I miss something here. Maybe the fact at where do you get all your cap from to run a row of large remote armor reps and dual reps that are required to tank such a plex.
You missed quite a lot. I will try to explain it again: You do not use large remote reps on drones. To do that would be silly. You need those to keep your gangmembers alive.
If you're soloing one of the easier wormholes you would maybe put a small rr in to rep your drones after each encounter/site.
This is what you and people like you don't want to understand: while there are ships that solo the lower class whs more easily than a domi there is no ship that excels so much in higher class whs than the ****ing domi. Give and take. --
Originally by: Jasper Dark
I agree! Lets go back into caves and lick rocks!
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Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.01 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Myra2007 Yeah, sentries is the way to go for the most part. I didn't imply anything else so again i don't understand your point.
Originally by: Myra2007 Sentries aren't supposed to hit frigates. I know how to pilot a drone ship and i am familiar with different drone types and their usage. Again i don't see your point.
Originally by: Karentaki
Contradiction much?
No. What about "for the most part" do you not understand?
Originally by: Karentaki
As I have said, if you are on your own in a drone ship, then your light and me drones will be attacked in a few seconds after launch. Sentries can't hit frigs. How do you propose kiling frigs other than spending 10 minutes scooping drones every 10 seconds, losing a drone for every frigate, and generally getting annoyed?
The same way i do it. Kill cruisers and bs first as much as possible without spawning the next wave. Then use your light drones (or meds depending on circumstances) to kill off the frigs and kill the last cruiser/bs - rinse and repeat. If i can do it with a flight of unbonused lights why can't you?
Originally by: Myra2007 Put that same scenario in a class 3+ and nighthawk looks like crap. (You won't solo those plexes so thats were rr comes into play.) You know which ship is awesome under those circumstances? Yup, the domi. As i said ships have advantages and disadvantages.
Originally by: Karentaki
So would you support say.. having caldari able to run L1 and L2 missions, while gallente can run L3 and L4? No? Then I don't see why it should be like that for wormholes.
You can complete class1/2 just fine in a domi. I know because i have done so. I already admitted that its a bit annoying - but thats about it.
As for the advantages a domi in class4+ (read the post by the no trademark guy) - are you supposing a nerf to the domi or a boost to the other ships to make up for their "problems"? No? Then don't complain. --
Originally by: Jasper Dark
I agree! Lets go back into caves and lick rocks!
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