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brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: brummel1 Hi,
I followed several discussions about the fact that miners/traders/mission runners think about, that the gankers and griefers where cuddled by CCP. My thoughts about this is ... definitly EVE has become a dumping ground for gankers and griefers which where cast away and banned from other online games because of there habbits.
The Fraktion of 90 years old gankers with parkinson desease has problems to target a transport ship ... CCP is happy to rise the align time and lower the speed of the ship.
A T2 HAC pilot is threatend by a hulk he tries to kill ... no problem we reduce the traget range and rise the penalty of warp core stabelizers over 150%
About 90% of the players dont want to leave the High sec anymore because of crazy-shooter-gangs who destroye everthing that come in there way.
I play eve for a long time now (this is not my first character and account) and over the time the pvp-faction where cuddled and had get blowed sugar into there a..es. The warp scambler need to much CPU so you cant fit another one ... no problem ... we rise the value of the scrambler to +3 AND lower the CPU usage. You are to stupid to scramble a hulk ... thats no problem we change the design of the hulk so that no warp core stab can be fitted.
So now I'm looking very interested about the comments of the pvp-faction who is clearly the most misunderstood and suffering faction within eve.
Um, EvE was created by gankers and griefers. Really.
the problem is ... that many players in eve are no gankers and griefers ... not anymore ... so the demand there right to be seen and to ajust the forces back to a healthy balance
You weren't here pre sentry gun, pre warp to 0, pre concord nerf, pre second concord nerf. It is so much easier for you carebears now, so cry moar pl0x.
oh yeah .. of course ... i see ... pirats, ninja salvager, camper, gankers and griefer are such a suffering tribe ... maybe i will squeeze a tier out of my eyes |
Kara Xandi
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 25/05/2009 12:36:17
" EVE has become a dumping ground for gankers and griefers "
Excuse me ? You are completely and utterly wrong ! EVE was DESIGNED from the start to BE a place for gankers and griefers. Sheesh... If anything, EVE has become far too lenient, too forgiving towards the "I want no trouble" crowd : countless CONCORD buffs (or, hell, the existance of CONCORD in the first place), larger secrating penalties for kills in highsec, etc.
Eve evolved, It seems the likes of you didn't. But sure lets bring back the old system, get rid of concord and make all of eve lawless, enjoy your 3000 membership server.
BTW no more nerf lvl 4 tears? |
Intaglio
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:25:00 -
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I'm half expecting a Dev to pop up quoting the age old message of EVE being a dark and cold and unforgiving place and all that, maybe even some older quote of how EVE was designed for griefing without the moral restrictions of real life ... |
TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:28:00 -
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Does that look like his main? |
brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Intaglio I'm half expecting a Dev to pop up quoting the age old message of EVE being a dark and cold and unforgiving place and all that, maybe even some older quote of how EVE was designed for griefing without the moral restrictions of real life ...
i see ... so lets get to warp scrambler with a value of +10 ... without this change we cant get any pod kill anymore |
brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: TraininVain Does that look like his main?
sorry you are wrong ... maybe more luck the next time *grin* |
brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:33:00 -
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oh and i forgot ... we have to lower the war dec fee to 0 isk ... so everyone can afford a war |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kara Xandi Eve evolved, It seems the likes of you didn't. But sure lets bring back the old system, get rid of concord and make all of eve lawless, enjoy your 3000 membership server. BTW no more nerf lvl 4 tears?
You know what I find funny ? How some people tell me I have to stop being such a carebear and suggest stuff that helps them, while others tell me I need to stop being such a jerk PVP sympathizer and understand the plight of the carebears better. Or how some people call me a greedy bastard mission-runner, while others tell me I have no idea how hard is to make ISK. You know what my conclusion is from all of this ? People on both extremes are clueless morons who couldn't tell "fair for everybody" from "advantageous to my kind of gameplay" if the differences between those things were burned into their retinas.
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brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:38:00 -
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after some strong and sarcastic sentences ... dont get me wrong ... i dont suggest the end of piracy or pvp ... I just suggest a restoring of a balance between miners/traders/mission runners and piracy/pvp-players |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: brummel1 I just suggest a restoring of a balance between miners/traders/mission runners and piracy/pvp-players
Soooo… nerf Concord? |
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brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:42:00 -
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Edited by: brummel1 on 25/05/2009 13:42:49
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: brummel1 I just suggest a restoring of a balance between miners/traders/mission runners and piracy/pvp-players
Sooooà nerf Concord?
no ... for example reduce the power of scramplers and disruptors ... and rise the power of stabs ... even pirats and pvp-player should have to use a little bit of strategy to get there goal not only firepower
Now in a battle between a miner/trader and a pvp-player ... the miner/trader takes 100% of the risk and the pvp-player none |
DerArt1st
DEFCON. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:42:00 -
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Brummel'sche 4 teh president! |
brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: DerArt1st Brummel'sche 4 teh president!
Halt die Klappe, Rose |
TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: brummel1 Edited by: brummel1 on 25/05/2009 13:42:49
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: brummel1 I just suggest a restoring of a balance between miners/traders/mission runners and piracy/pvp-players
Sooooà nerf Concord?
no ... for example reduce the power of scramplers and disruptors ... and rise the power of stabs ... even pirats and pvp-player should have to use a little bit of strategy to get there goal not only firepower
Now in a battle between a miner/trader and a pvp-player ... the miner/trader takes 100% of the risk and the pvp-player none
Stabs used to be more "powerful". They nerfed them because PVPers were using them.
It's a basic principle of EVE PVP that once you commit to a fight you are committed.
And tbh not even buffed stabs could save that passive shield tanked prophecy from dying a firey death: http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=brummel1&id=6181394&page=1&filter=losses#mail |
Sniper Wolf18
Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: brummel1 Edited by: brummel1 on 25/05/2009 13:42:49
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: brummel1 I just suggest a restoring of a balance between miners/traders/mission runners and piracy/pvp-players
Sooooà nerf Concord?
no ... for example reduce the power of scramplers and disruptors ... and rise the power of stabs ... even pirats and pvp-player should have to use a little bit of strategy to get there goal not only firepower
Now in a battle between a miner/trader and a pvp-player ... the miner/trader takes 100% of the risk and the pvp-player none
so having to fit multiple warp scrams is a STRATEGY now?
Maybe you should use scouts and some STRATEGY as to not lose your precious shippies?
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brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: TraininVain
Originally by: brummel1 Edited by: brummel1 on 25/05/2009 13:42:49
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: brummel1 I just suggest a restoring of a balance between miners/traders/mission runners and piracy/pvp-players
Sooooà nerf Concord?
no ... for example reduce the power of scramplers and disruptors ... and rise the power of stabs ... even pirats and pvp-player should have to use a little bit of strategy to get there goal not only firepower
Now in a battle between a miner/trader and a pvp-player ... the miner/trader takes 100% of the risk and the pvp-player none
Stabs used to be more "powerful". They nerfed them because PVPers were using them.
It's a basic principle of EVE PVP that once you commit to a fight you are committed.
And tbh not even buffed stabs could save that passive shield tanked prophecy from dying a firey death: http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=brummel1&id=6181394&page=1&filter=losses#mail
is that my problem that pvp-player uses stabs? no! ... so you have to get more scramblers but no than you have to fly with guardians or get rid of firepower ... too bad!!! |
brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:55:00 -
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now we are at the heart of the problem ... everyone has to change and adapt but not the pvp-faction |
TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: TraininVain on 25/05/2009 13:57:25 The heart of the problem is that you don't really know what you're talking about. |
brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: brummel1 on 25/05/2009 14:00:11 Edited by: brummel1 on 25/05/2009 13:59:15
Originally by: TraininVain Edited by: TraininVain on 25/05/2009 13:57:25 The heart of the problem is that you don't really know what you're talking about.
really? ... so by the way ... i've heard the the number of t2 hacs which are killed by hulks are rising by the second ... so lets get rid of hulks
For the pvp-faction ... this was sarcasm |
TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:00:00 -
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Yes really.
It'd be like me suggesting changes to mining. |
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Jesum
Amarr Black Rainbow Knights
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:01:00 -
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TL;DR
EVE is a PVP game - Most other MMORPGs are not. |
brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jesum TL;DR
EVE is a PVP game - Most other MMORPGs are not.
you want it to be a only-pvp-game |
TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:07:00 -
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No. Then who would make our combat ships?
Get back to mining |
Southern Suzy
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:08:00 -
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Hush little baby don't say a word...
Really you have no clue what you are talking about and neither have those fanatic PVP'ers.
A lot of changes did the same stuff on BOTH sides. |
brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: brummel1 on 25/05/2009 14:09:20
Originally by: TraininVain No. Then who would make our combat ships?
Get back to mining
interesting comment ... i see ... let myself have a short but heavy laugh about you! |
Ervol Libra
Amarr Pinky and the Brain corp
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: TraininVain No. Then who would make our combat ships?
Get back to mining
interesting comment ... i see ... let myself have a short but heany laugh about you!
I dno but a lot of pvp corps are self sustained on building and if needed mining/inventing.
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brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Southern Suzy Hush little baby don't say a word...
Really you have no clue what you are talking about and neither have those fanatic PVP'ers.
A lot of changes did the same stuff on BOTH sides.
thats true ... but the balance moved to the side of pirats and gankers ... |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Jesum TL;DR
EVE is a PVP game - Most other MMORPGs are not.
you want it to be a only-pvp-game
It already is — the problems you're having stems from the fact that you haven't understood this. |
brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Jesum TL;DR
EVE is a PVP game - Most other MMORPGs are not.
you want it to be a only-pvp-game
It already is ù the problems you're having stems from the fact that you haven't understood this.
so let me see ... mining/trading/producing/mission runnig is only a dream ... or what might be more possible ... you are wrong |
Sniper Wolf18
Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.25 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Jesum TL;DR
EVE is a PVP game - Most other MMORPGs are not.
you want it to be a only-pvp-game
It already is ù the problems you're having stems from the fact that you haven't understood this.
so let me see ... mining/trading/producing/mission runnig is only a dream ... or what might be more possible ... you are wrong
Trading = Undercutting other people's offers = PvP Mining = Competing for roids = PvP Mission running = Carebear ***gyness
Also, warp core stabs were nerfed as a result of PvP and people not commiting to a fight, not as a result of carebears getting away from PvP.
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