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TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:32:00 -
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Then you picked the wrong game.
You accept a certain amount of risk by clicking undock. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:32:00 -
[122]
Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Dictum Factum Well, I planned on being helpful, but as I read your last several posts something occurred to me. I think that you are wanting the game to adapt to you as opposed to you adapting to the game. With that thought in mind, I think there is little that I can say that will help you.
well ... i'm adapting to the game but for this thread i decided to be stu**** and adapt a typical pvp-player-behavior ... knocking on my point no matter what ... i want a real answer why it is impossible to get back to a balance ...
The real answer is: the game is balanced now. I realise that it's not the answer you want, but hey: too bad.
Incidentally, what did you lose? |
Benzaiten Reverse
Caldari Shokei
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Malvaceae Veri
Originally by: brummel1 About 90% of the players dont want to leave the High sec anymore because of crazy-shooter-gangs who destroye everthing that come in there way.
Wrong. 90% of players dont leave highsec because of rumours of "destroy everything you see" gankers.
I live in lowsec 90% of my time, and while I have been ganked quite a few times, I'm not going to have to pay for this game with RL money anymore, and you know, playing hide-and-seek with pirates is actually FUN.
Well try to bring few expensive ships to lowsec and do missions with them and as soon gankers realize you will see increased activity by them in system. Longest time for gankers to arive when i was trying lowsec was maybe 2 hours, shortes less then 10 min, including probing. I dont know how you, but i dont wana lost 1.5 bilion every 2 hours and thats why i am doing missions in highsec and enter lowsec only in fast PVP fitted ships. Also did you checked how big standing hit is for failed storyline mission (weeks or months grinding to get it back). And yeah, i was ganked 80 times i entered lowsec while half of time i managed to get to safety with total 800 mil lost 90 mil gained during lowsec missions. So no i dont think its just RUMOR as you are trying to say.
Also training long booring skills right now and want to keep my implants safe
And no its not just my poor luck as most friends i know not doing lowsec pvp have same experience. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Benzaiten Reverse
Originally by: Malvaceae Veri
Originally by: brummel1 About 90% of the players dont want to leave the High sec anymore because of crazy-shooter-gangs who destroye everthing that come in there way.
Wrong. 90% of players dont leave highsec because of rumours of "destroy everything you see" gankers.
I live in lowsec 90% of my time, and while I have been ganked quite a few times, I'm not going to have to pay for this game with RL money anymore, and you know, playing hide-and-seek with pirates is actually FUN.
Well try to bring few expensive ships to lowsec and do missions with them and as soon gankers realize you will see increased activity by them in system. Longest time for gankers to arive when i was trying lowsec was maybe 2 hours, shortes less then 10 min, including probing. I dont know how you, but i dont wana lost 1.5 bilion every 2 hours and thats why i am doing missions in highsec and enter lowsec only in fast PVP fitted ships. Also did you checked how big standing hit is for failed storyline mission (weeks or months grinding to get it back). And yeah, i was ganked 80 times i entered lowsec while half of time i managed to get to safety with total 800 mil lost 90 mil gained during lowsec missions. So no i dont think its just RUMOR as you are trying to say.
Also training long booring skills right now and want to keep my implants safe
And no its not just my poor luck as most friends i know not doing lowsec pvp have same experience.
Try doing something else than running missions in exactly the same way you would in hi-sec. Just a thought... |
brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Dictum Factum Well, I planned on being helpful, but as I read your last several posts something occurred to me. I think that you are wanting the game to adapt to you as opposed to you adapting to the game. With that thought in mind, I think there is little that I can say that will help you.
well ... i'm adapting to the game but for this thread i decided to be stu**** and adapt a typical pvp-player-behavior ... knocking on my point no matter what ... i want a real answer why it is impossible to get back to a balance ...
The real answer is: the game is balanced now. I realise that it's not the answer you want, but hey: too bad.
Incidentally, what did you lose?
i lost nothing for month ... but in this point i have to say ... this game is only balanced for pirats ... the increasing numbers of ganker and griefer gangs in the high sec is a proof to my words ... or why are 90% of the miners in the high sec? because none of them has nerv anymore to loose a expensive ship AND have all the risk ... and no risk on the side of the pirat who shoot them |
lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:37:00 -
[126]
I'm bored so I'll bite.
Originally by: brummel1 Hi,
Hi
I followed several discussions about the fact that miners/traders/mission runners think about, that the gankers and griefers where cuddled by CCP. My thoughts about this is ... definitly EVE has become a dumping ground for gankers and griefers which where cast away and banned from other online games because of there habbits.
So you 'followed' discussions. Does this relate to ingame experience?
The Fraktion of 90 years old gankers with parkinson desease has problems to target a transport ship ... CCP is happy to rise the align time and lower the speed of the ship.
Making fun of the 2nd most common neurodegenerative disease in a troll attempt is seriously not cool. Hope you get early onset parkinson's and see what it feels like (ingame).
A T2 HAC pilot is threatend by a hulk he tries to kill ... no problem we reduce the traget range and rise the penalty of warp core stabelizers over 150%
Hulk would die regardless of if he could target or not. With warpcore stabs fitted on a hulk you could, you know, warp away?
About 90% of the players dont want to leave the High sec anymore because of crazy-shooter-gangs who destroye everthing that come in there way.
About 90% of the statistics are made up on the spot. Also most of the people who stay exclusively in hisec don't really 'get' EVE, as demonstrated by this post.
I play eve for a long time now (this is not my first character and account) and over the time the pvp-faction where cuddled and had get blowed sugar into there a..es. The warp scambler need to much CPU so you cant fit another one ... no problem ... we rise the value of the scrambler to +3 AND lower the CPU usage. You are to stupid to scramble a hulk ... thats no problem we change the design of the hulk so that no warp core stab can be fitted.
It's 'their' not 'there'. The warp scrambler fits just fine. Warp scramblers are 2 strength barring certain faction scrams. There's nothing in the game that stops hulks from fitting warp core stabilisers. Also, how does stupidity come into play when scrambling a hulk? If you have a scram fitted, you either scram it or you don't. It doesn't really take much more than targetting and activating scram on the hulk. FAIL.
So now I'm looking very interested about the comments of the pvp-faction who is clearly the most misunderstood and suffering faction within eve.
You fail at sarcasm so try again.
From your point of view, ALL pirates/PVPers whine and refuse to adapt. However, there are more new tactics developed to further PVP opportunities than there are tactics developed by carebears such as yourself to avoid getting blown up. This says something about who refuses to adapt and use existing game mechanics to their advantage.
In summary, I think I can safely conclude that you are: 1. A troll 2. Someone who has NO idea how the game works, what the game is about, and just gave the game a try because internet spaceships is cool. 3. An ebayed character who's discovered that he's unable to insta-win with an older character and needs his hand held.
Pick 1, or all 3.
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brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:40:00 -
[127]
Originally by: lollerwaffle I'm bored so I'll bite.
Originally by: brummel1 Hi,
Hi
I followed several discussions about the fact that miners/traders/mission runners think about, that the gankers and griefers where cuddled by CCP. My thoughts about this is ... definitly EVE has become a dumping ground for gankers and griefers which where cast away and banned from other online games because of there habbits.
So you 'followed' discussions. Does this relate to ingame experience?
The Fraktion of 90 years old gankers with parkinson desease has problems to target a transport ship ... CCP is happy to rise the align time and lower the speed of the ship.
Making fun of the 2nd most common neurodegenerative disease in a troll attempt is seriously not cool. Hope you get early onset parkinson's and see what it feels like (ingame).
A T2 HAC pilot is threatend by a hulk he tries to kill ... no problem we reduce the traget range and rise the penalty of warp core stabelizers over 150%
Hulk would die regardless of if he could target or not. With warpcore stabs fitted on a hulk you could, you know, warp away?
About 90% of the players dont want to leave the High sec anymore because of crazy-shooter-gangs who destroye everthing that come in there way.
About 90% of the statistics are made up on the spot. Also most of the people who stay exclusively in hisec don't really 'get' EVE, as demonstrated by this post.
I play eve for a long time now (this is not my first character and account) and over the time the pvp-faction where cuddled and had get blowed sugar into there a..es. The warp scambler need to much CPU so you cant fit another one ... no problem ... we rise the value of the scrambler to +3 AND lower the CPU usage. You are to stupid to scramble a hulk ... thats no problem we change the design of the hulk so that no warp core stab can be fitted.
It's 'their' not 'there'. The warp scrambler fits just fine. Warp scramblers are 2 strength barring certain faction scrams. There's nothing in the game that stops hulks from fitting warp core stabilisers. Also, how does stupidity come into play when scrambling a hulk? If you have a scram fitted, you either scram it or you don't. It doesn't really take much more than targetting and activating scram on the hulk. FAIL.
So now I'm looking very interested about the comments of the pvp-faction who is clearly the most misunderstood and suffering faction within eve.
You fail at sarcasm so try again.
From your point of view, ALL pirates/PVPers whine and refuse to adapt. However, there are more new tactics developed to further PVP opportunities than there are tactics developed by carebears such as yourself to avoid getting blown up. This says something about who refuses to adapt and use existing game mechanics to their advantage.
In summary, I think I can safely conclude that you are: 1. A troll 2. Someone who has NO idea how the game works, what the game is about, and just gave the game a try because internet spaceships is cool. 3. An ebayed character who's discovered that he's unable to insta-win with an older character and needs his hand held.
Pick 1, or all 3.
sorry this comment is a load of crab ... why has every miner/trader/mission runner to be a pvp-player?
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Dictum Factum
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:41:00 -
[128]
Originally by: brummel1 ... or why are 90% of the miners in the high sec? because none of them has nerv anymore to loose a expensive ship AND have all the risk ... and no risk on the side of the pirat who shoot them
I tried to stay away...
The real reason that miners are in high security space is due to the value of tritanium. As the market stands, the mineral value of low-sec ores are not worth the time/trouble. Quite simply, if you are not out in 0.0, mining ABC, your best isk/hour for mining is in high-sec with veldspar.
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brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:42:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Benzaiten Reverse
Originally by: Malvaceae Veri
Originally by: brummel1 About 90% of the players dont want to leave the High sec anymore because of crazy-shooter-gangs who destroye everthing that come in there way.
Wrong. 90% of players dont leave highsec because of rumours of "destroy everything you see" gankers.
I live in lowsec 90% of my time, and while I have been ganked quite a few times, I'm not going to have to pay for this game with RL money anymore, and you know, playing hide-and-seek with pirates is actually FUN.
Well try to bring few expensive ships to lowsec and do missions with them and as soon gankers realize you will see increased activity by them in system. Longest time for gankers to arive when i was trying lowsec was maybe 2 hours, shortes less then 10 min, including probing. I dont know how you, but i dont wana lost 1.5 bilion every 2 hours and thats why i am doing missions in highsec and enter lowsec only in fast PVP fitted ships. Also did you checked how big standing hit is for failed storyline mission (weeks or months grinding to get it back). And yeah, i was ganked 80 times i entered lowsec while half of time i managed to get to safety with total 800 mil lost 90 mil gained during lowsec missions. So no i dont think its just RUMOR as you are trying to say.
Also training long booring skills right now and want to keep my implants safe
And no its not just my poor luck as most friends i know not doing lowsec pvp have same experience.
I know what she is experiencing ... i dont accept missions in the low sec anymore because even on the way to the mission spot you have about 10 gangs who try to shoot you
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:42:00 -
[130]
Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Dictum Factum Well, I planned on being helpful, but as I read your last several posts something occurred to me. I think that you are wanting the game to adapt to you as opposed to you adapting to the game. With that thought in mind, I think there is little that I can say that will help you.
well ... i'm adapting to the game but for this thread i decided to be stu**** and adapt a typical pvp-player-behavior ... knocking on my point no matter what ... i want a real answer why it is impossible to get back to a balance ...
The real answer is: the game is balanced now. I realise that it's not the answer you want, but hey: too bad.
Incidentally, what did you lose?
i lost nothing for month ... but in this point i have to say ... this game is only balanced for pirats ... the increasing numbers of ganker and griefer gangs in the high sec is a proof to my words ... or why are 90% of the miners in the high sec? because none of them has nerv anymore to loose a expensive ship AND have all the risk ... and no risk on the side of the pirat who shoot them
Cry me a river. Want to make it dangerous or just plain difficult for someone to shoot you? Then go do it; there are more than enough tools available.
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Malcanis
It's at this stage that I feel entitled to say "l2play"
Seriously, PvP combat is utterly different from shooting PvE rats and there is a lot of technique to learn. The best way to learn how to avoid being ganked is to go become a ganker yourself for a while.
But yeah, a few basics:
(1) have 2+ safespots (2) be aligned to warp out to a safespot (3) WATCH LOCAL (4) Set up your overview to show hostiles (5) Stop AFKing and then coming to the forums to cry when you lose your ship. (6) Learn how to scout, or get a friend that knows.
all that things i know ... but back to the point. why is it so horrifying to balance the forces (after the balance where destroyed by whiny pvp-players)
If you know all that, you would possibly realize that using those methods will minimise your risks. If you want a completely risk free game, then you're playing the wrong game. You say all that stuff about 'rebalancing' but yet the methods with which you convey your posts suggest that you're not after rebalancing, it's more like you're needing a completely risk-free environment.
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brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:43:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Dictum Factum
Originally by: brummel1 ... or why are 90% of the miners in the high sec? because none of them has nerv anymore to loose a expensive ship AND have all the risk ... and no risk on the side of the pirat who shoot them
I tried to stay away...
The real reason that miners are in high security space is due to the value of tritanium. As the market stands, the mineral value of low-sec ores are not worth the time/trouble. Quite simply, if you are not out in 0.0, mining ABC, your best isk/hour for mining is in high-sec with veldspar.
not quite ... the real high price for trit is because the belts are totally empty about 1 hour after downtime because no miner want to go to the low anymore
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:44:00 -
[133]
Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: lollerwaffle I'm bored so I'll bite.
Originally by: brummel1 Hi,
Hi
I followed several discussions about the fact that miners/traders/mission runners think about, that the gankers and griefers where cuddled by CCP. My thoughts about this is ... definitly EVE has become a dumping ground for gankers and griefers which where cast away and banned from other online games because of there habbits.
So you 'followed' discussions. Does this relate to ingame experience?
The Fraktion of 90 years old gankers with parkinson desease has problems to target a transport ship ... CCP is happy to rise the align time and lower the speed of the ship.
Making fun of the 2nd most common neurodegenerative disease in a troll attempt is seriously not cool. Hope you get early onset parkinson's and see what it feels like (ingame).
A T2 HAC pilot is threatend by a hulk he tries to kill ... no problem we reduce the traget range and rise the penalty of warp core stabelizers over 150%
Hulk would die regardless of if he could target or not. With warpcore stabs fitted on a hulk you could, you know, warp away?
About 90% of the players dont want to leave the High sec anymore because of crazy-shooter-gangs who destroye everthing that come in there way.
About 90% of the statistics are made up on the spot. Also most of the people who stay exclusively in hisec don't really 'get' EVE, as demonstrated by this post.
I play eve for a long time now (this is not my first character and account) and over the time the pvp-faction where cuddled and had get blowed sugar into there a..es. The warp scambler need to much CPU so you cant fit another one ... no problem ... we rise the value of the scrambler to +3 AND lower the CPU usage. You are to stupid to scramble a hulk ... thats no problem we change the design of the hulk so that no warp core stab can be fitted.
It's 'their' not 'there'. The warp scrambler fits just fine. Warp scramblers are 2 strength barring certain faction scrams. There's nothing in the game that stops hulks from fitting warp core stabilisers. Also, how does stupidity come into play when scrambling a hulk? If you have a scram fitted, you either scram it or you don't. It doesn't really take much more than targetting and activating scram on the hulk. FAIL.
So now I'm looking very interested about the comments of the pvp-faction who is clearly the most misunderstood and suffering faction within eve.
You fail at sarcasm so try again.
From your point of view, ALL pirates/PVPers whine and refuse to adapt. However, there are more new tactics developed to further PVP opportunities than there are tactics developed by carebears such as yourself to avoid getting blown up. This says something about who refuses to adapt and use existing game mechanics to their advantage.
In summary, I think I can safely conclude that you are: 1. A troll 2. Someone who has NO idea how the game works, what the game is about, and just gave the game a try because internet spaceships is cool. 3. An ebayed character who's discovered that he's unable to insta-win with an older character and needs his hand held.
Pick 1, or all 3.
sorry this comment is a load of crab ... why has every miner/trader/mission runner to be a pvp-player?
BECAUSE EVE IS A PVP GAME
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brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:45:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Malcanis
Cry me a river. Want to make it dangerous or just plain difficult for someone to shoot you? Then go do it; there are more than enough tools available.
you allready cried a river that the piracy is such a heavy and dangerous profession in eve (beware sarcasm)
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brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:47:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Malcanis
BECAUSE EVE IS A PVP GAME
I get that ... but why is the balance always by the hunter?
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:47:00 -
[136]
Originally by: brummel1
sorry this comment is a load of crab ... why has every miner/trader/mission runner to be a pvp-player?
1. It's spelled 'crap' not 'crab'. 2. Did you even bother to read my post? Which points that I made specifically were 'crap' as you say? Would you care to address the arguments I raised against your opinions? 3. At which point did I even say that every miner/trade/mission runner has to be a PVP-player? Please point it out. 4. So I can safely conclude that as well as being a troll/idiot, you also lack reading comprehension skills. It's OK though. Illiteracy hasn't been completed eradicated in the world.
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Governor LePetomane
Rock Ridge Brokerage Solutions
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:48:00 -
[137]
Originally by: brummel1
sorry this comment is a load of crab
This comment is a small cruet of clarified butter.
Now that's good eatin'!
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:48:00 -
[138]
Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Malcanis
BECAUSE EVE IS A PVP GAME
I get that ... but why is the balance always by the hunter?
It's not.
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brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:50:00 -
[139]
Originally by: lollerwaffle
Originally by: brummel1
sorry this comment is a load of crab ... why has every miner/trader/mission runner to be a pvp-player?
1. It's spelled 'crap' not 'crab'. 2. Did you even bother to read my post? Which points that I made specifically were 'crap' as you say? Would you care to address the arguments I raised against your opinions? 3. At which point did I even say that every miner/trade/mission runner has to be a PVP-player? Please point it out. 4. So I can safely conclude that as well as being a troll/idiot, you also lack reading comprehension skills. It's OK though. Illiteracy hasn't been completed eradicated in the world.
sorry not everyone is nativly english speaking ... i want to hear or read you speak german than i make my jokes about you
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:51:00 -
[140]
Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Malcanis
Cry me a river. Want to make it dangerous or just plain difficult for someone to shoot you? Then go do it; there are more than enough tools available.
you allready cried a river that the piracy is such a heavy and dangerous profession in eve (beware sarcasm)
As opposed to mission running, which can be done afk? Or mining in hisec, where keeping an eye on your scanners, and fitting a tank to your mining ship basically means you'll be suicide gank proof (almost)? Please elaborate how those other professions are any more or less 'dangerous' than piracy.
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brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Malcanis
BECAUSE EVE IS A PVP GAME
I get that ... but why is the balance always by the hunter?
It's not.
so you say i have a warp stab with the power of +3 like a scrambler with -3 ... or there is something against a disruptor?
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Illwill Bill
Svea Rike Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:51:00 -
[142]
Edited by: Illwill Bill on 25/05/2009 15:54:00 I really shouldn't, but I'll bite anyway:
There is nothing stopping you, or anyone, from operating solo in low-sec and null-sec. Granted, it's more difficult to operate in these areas, and it requires more skill to survive here, but with practice and patience it's definitely possible.
Missions are perfectly doable, although the risk is obviously greater. You have to fit the ship to be able to fend off any potential attacker, aswell as to complete the mission objective. This is far from impossible, though unfortunately the rewards are rarely worth it, but that is a completely different matter. It's also worth noting that there is usually much less people, especially in remote low-sec areas, so the risk of encountering salvage and loot thieves are actually lower (not to mention that it's fun to kill salvage thieves ).
Mining is also possible, although a hulk is probably not the wisest choise of ship. I personally spent many hours mining in a Scythe (don't laugh please) in lowsec, and managed to make what I thought was a nice profit. Yes, I was a clueless noob. If you insist on mining in a barge, then bring backup. This is an MMO and it's meant to be played against, aswell as together, with other players. The problem here is, once again, that low-sec's rewards are not large enough to justify a mining op with escort, although a small corp can definitely successfully ninja-mine the belts of 0.0-systems.
All in all, EVE is a cold and harsh place, and that is intended. Low-sec and null-sec are intentionally more dangerous than hi-sec. It takes brains and some effort to do enjoy it, and the benefits of low-sec are in a serious need of re-balancing. Don't let that stop you, and I assure you that you will enjoy the game more. </rant>
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:57:00 -
[143]
Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Malcanis
Cry me a river. Want to make it dangerous or just plain difficult for someone to shoot you? Then go do it; there are more than enough tools available.
you allready cried a river that the piracy is such a heavy and dangerous profession in eve (beware sarcasm)
Point to my tears, please. You talk a lot about "whining" and "crying" and "tears" but the only examples I see are yours, complaining how unfair it is that you can have an unvulnerable carebearing machine.
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:58:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Benzaiten Reverse Well try to bring few expensive ships to lowsec and do missions with them and as soon gankers realize you will see increased activity by them in system. Longest time for gankers to arive when i was trying lowsec was maybe 2 hours, shortes less then 10 min, including probing. I dont know how you, but i dont wana lost 1.5 bilion every 2 hours and thats why i am doing missions in highsec and enter lowsec only in fast PVP fitted ships. Also did you checked how big standing hit is for failed storyline mission (weeks or months grinding to get it back). And yeah, i was ganked 80 times i entered lowsec while half of time i managed to get to safety with total 800 mil lost 90 mil gained during lowsec missions. So no i dont think its just RUMOR as you are trying to say.
Also training long booring skills right now and want to keep my implants safe
And no its not just my poor luck as most friends i know not doing lowsec pvp have same experience.
Have you heard the old adage 'Don't fly what you can't afford to lose' (Refers mainly to PVP and flying in dangerous areas)? Do you think that it doesn't apply to you, because you are somehow special? Last I check, level 3's could be done in a t1 battlecruiser, level 4's in a normal t1 battleship. Faction ships and mods are not necessary to complete level 4s.
I don't know about you, but if I lost 1.5 billion every 2 hours, or got ganked 80 times, I'd probably wise up a bit and realise I was doing something wrong. Maybe even seek advice or tips on how to avoid it? I don't know, I guess if something doesn't work the first few times, maybe I should keep doing exactly the same thing over and over again. Who knows, eventually it HAS to work, right? RIGHT???
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 15:59:00 -
[145]
Originally by: brummel1
so you say i have a warp stab with the power of +3 like a scrambler with -3 ... or there is something against a disruptor?
OK you're either trolling or too stupid to be helped. Either way I've wasted enough time on you.
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brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 16:00:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Illwill Bill Edited by: Illwill Bill on 25/05/2009 15:54:00 I really shouldn't, but I'll bite anyway:
There is nothing stopping you, or anyone, from operating solo in low-sec and null-sec. Granted, it's more difficult to operate in these areas, and it requires more skill to survive here, but with practice and patience it's definitely possible.
Missions are perfectly doable, although the risk is obviously greater. You have to fit the ship to be able to fend off any potential attacker, aswell as to complete the mission objective. This is far from impossible, though unfortunately the rewards are rarely worth it, but that is a completely different matter. It's also worth noting that there is usually much less people, especially in remote low-sec areas, so the risk of encountering salvage and loot thieves are actually lower (not to mention that it's fun to kill salvage thieves ).
Mining is also possible, although a hulk is probably not the wisest choise of ship. I personally spent many hours mining in a Scythe (don't laugh please) in lowsec, and managed to make what I thought was a nice profit. Yes, I was a clueless noob. If you insist on mining in a barge, then bring backup. This is an MMO and it's meant to be played against, aswell as together, with other players. The problem here is, once again, that low-sec's rewards are not large enough to justify a mining op with escort, although a small corp can definitely successfully ninja-mine the belts of 0.0-systems.
All in all, EVE is a cold and harsh place, and that is intended. Low-sec and null-sec are intentionally more dangerous than hi-sec. It takes brains and some effort to do enjoy it, and the benefits of low-sec are in a serious need of re-balancing. Don't let that stop you, and I assure you that you will enjoy the game more. </rant>
Bill ... I'm totaly at your side and i dont want to change eve ... i want the high, the low and the 0.0 ... i'm willing to take the risks ... the basically intention of my behaivor in this thread was, to reveal a typical pvp-behaivor ... this five-year-old-kid-behaivor where the kid stomps his foot on the ground an shouts "I want to shoot" "I want to shoot" ... okay i really think there are ajustments needed because there is a inbalance and if it gets worse it will destroy eve
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.05.25 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: lollerwaffle
Originally by: brummel1
sorry this comment is a load of crab ... why has every miner/trader/mission runner to be a pvp-player?
1. It's spelled 'crap' not 'crab'. 2. Did you even bother to read my post? Which points that I made specifically were 'crap' as you say? Would you care to address the arguments I raised against your opinions? 3. At which point did I even say that every miner/trade/mission runner has to be a PVP-player? Please point it out. 4. So I can safely conclude that as well as being a troll/idiot, you also lack reading comprehension skills. It's OK though. Illiteracy hasn't been completed eradicated in the world.
sorry not everyone is nativly english speaking ... i want to hear or read you speak german than i make my jokes about you
I understand, from your posts, that English is not your first language. I guess giving you the correct spelling of a word you're using to insult others is wrong, and I won't do it in future. In fact, aren't you a bit touchy? How am I making jokes about your language ability?
Also, please try to address the issues I raised without attempting to divert attention to another area.
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brummel1
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Posted - 2009.05.25 16:02:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: brummel1
so you say i have a warp stab with the power of +3 like a scrambler with -3 ... or there is something against a disruptor?
OK you're either trolling or too stupid to be helped. Either way I've wasted enough time on you.
why you say there is everthing balacend?
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.05.25 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: brummel1 Bill ... I'm totaly at your side and i dont want to change eve ... i want the high, the low and the 0.0 ... i'm willing to take the risks ... the basically intention of my behaivor in this thread was, to reveal a typical pvp-behaivor ... this five-year-old-kid-behaivor where the kid stomps his foot on the ground an shouts "I want to shoot" "I want to shoot" ... okay i really think there are ajustments needed because there is a inbalance and if it gets worse it will destroy eve
On one hand, you're crying about how the game is tilted in favour of PVPers/gankers/pirates or watever you may call them, and how the game should be rebalanced. Yet, you have the audacity to say that you're on someone's side and don't want to change eve? Try to stick with one line of argument, instead of contradicting yourself.
Your intention to reveal a 5 year old child's shouts/cries of "I want to shoot" was not really fulfilled, as the only one that seems to be crying here is you. So far, you have failed to answer, with any logic or decent arguments, anything that people have voiced. Instead, you have stuck to that one line of 'pirates cry and CCP changes the game to favour them, they are the only ones that refuse to adapt'. In fact, you appear to portray that 5-year-old-kid-behaviour more than most of the other posts here, by metaphorically sticking your fingers in your ear going 'lalalalala i can't hear a thing so I'm right'. Unfortunately, constantly repeating something does not mean it's true, and it only serves to reinforce your self-delusion.
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis The Space P0lice
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Posted - 2009.05.25 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: brummel1
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: brummel1
so you say i have a warp stab with the power of +3 like a scrambler with -3 ... or there is something against a disruptor?
OK you're either trolling or too stupid to be helped. Either way I've wasted enough time on you.
why you say there is everthing balacend?
Instead of posting one-liners repeating the same thing, how about you address my posts and not ignore them?
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