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Hermosa Diosas
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Posted - 2009.05.25 12:50:00 -
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Sorry but its true..after reading alot of posts on the forums. Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life. And it seems to be a growing breed.. Everyone who posts and yes everyone anything if its game changes, suggestions, or just general stuff, all you guys do (and there is a alot) is tell them to leave the game, get lost, idiots, tell them to die..Hardly any of you give constructive information or can actually have a conversation..Its disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves... |
Sabrage
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Posted - 2009.05.25 12:51:00 -
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no u |
Eddie Gordo
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.25 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 25/05/2009 12:52:12
I think a lot of it is down to forum culture. Rude arrogant self opinionated people tend to stick it out, where as a nice helpful player might get put off. Ergo, everyone still here is a bastard.
There are plenty of helpful people actually in the game. |
Imertu Solientai
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.05.25 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: Imertu Solientai on 25/05/2009 12:53:15 Please die (in game).
EDIT: Just to add a bit of content to my post - The reason people are like that is because there are so many posts complaining about the game and demanding that it is made easier/harder/safer/less fun/etc. People just get tired of all the crap posts. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.05.25 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life.
So... it's safe to assume, this is the FIRST forum of a MMO you've ever participated on, correct ?
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Hermosa Diosas
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Posted - 2009.05.25 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Imertu Solientai Edited by: Imertu Solientai on 25/05/2009 12:53:15 Please die (in game).
EDIT: Just to add a bit of content to my post - The reason people are like that is because there are so many posts complaining about the game and demanding that it is made easier/harder/safer/less fun/etc. People just get tired of all the crap posts.
isnt that what the forums are for? otherwise you would have no posts lol |
Hermosa Diosas
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Posted - 2009.05.25 12:55:00 -
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Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 25/05/2009 12:56:35
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life.
So... it's safe to assume, this is the FIRST forum of a MMO you've ever participated on, correct ?
not at all..but the point is probably 99% of posts are of just they type of thing i mentioned..have a look for yourself..hey its even on this post..like yourself |
Amael Galenus
Mighty Moshin Emo Rangers
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Posted - 2009.05.25 12:56:00 -
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Edited by: Amael Galenus on 25/05/2009 13:13:23 Edited by: Amael Galenus on 25/05/2009 13:00:42 What?
Edit: Is it really so surprising to find the forums going down the tubes & being full of internet 1337 kids when the focus of the game now seems to be on blobs, ganking & killboard padding? |
Vengal Seyhan
Minmatar Order of Anarchy
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 25/05/2009 12:56:35
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life.
So... it's safe to assume, this is the FIRST forum of a MMO you've ever participated on, correct ?
not at all..but the point is probably 99% of posts are of just they type of thing i mentioned..have a look for yourself..hey its even on this post..like yourself
....Should I point out the irony of an ad hominem attack in a topic about arroagnace and rudeness? Forum posters are universally rude and arrogant, like yourself, Mr OP. |
AncientLord
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Sorry but its true..after reading alot of posts on the forums. Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life. And it seems to be a growing breed.. Everyone who posts and yes everyone anything if its game changes, suggestions, or just general stuff, all you guys do (and there is a alot) is tell them to leave the game, get lost, idiots, tell them to die..Hardly any of you give constructive information or can actually have a conversation..Its disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves...
I fully agree. |
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:06:00 -
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Most people I speak to in game avoid the forums like the plague due to the cesspool it has become.
I know several MMOs that do have mature forums such as Ultima Online and Guild Wars, but those tend to be much better moderated, at least a lot stricter. No constructive content in post -> Delete. |
Chris Liath
Gallente Nex Exercitus Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:06:00 -
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Go away. |
Hermosa Diosas
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Most people I speak to in game avoid the forums like the plague due to the cesspool it has become.
I know several MMOs that do have mature forums such as Ultima Online and Guild Wars, but those tend to be much better moderated, at least a lot stricter. No constructive content in post -> Delete.
Hit the nail on the head there - lack of moderation.. |
AncientLord
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Most people I speak to in game avoid the forums like the plague due to the cesspool it has become.
I know several MMOs that do have mature forums such as Ultima Online and Guild Wars, but those tend to be much better moderated, at least a lot stricter. No constructive content in post -> Delete.
I sing up for free moderator status and ban forum idiots ;). |
Xtreem
Gallente Knockaround Guys Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:13:00 -
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problem is alot of topics / questions come up so much people get annoyed who have seen them time and again.
And you ALWAYS get a few on any forum |
TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:14:00 -
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Edited by: TraininVain on 25/05/2009 13:16:07
Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Sorry but its true..after reading alot of posts on the forums. Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life. And it seems to be a growing breed.. Everyone who posts and yes everyone anything if its game changes, suggestions, or just general stuff, all you guys do (and there is a alot) is tell them to leave the game, get lost, idiots, tell them to die..Hardly any of you give constructive information or can actually have a conversation..Its disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves...
TBH "robust" replies to stupid threads are a valuable tool for maintaining community standards.
I mean here's the thing - the posts that get rude replies are probably fairly stupid.
The suggestions of which you speak have probably been suggested a couple of hundred times before and/or are probably horribly thought out.
The general stuff is probably shrill whining. There is so much QQing that people now make fake "I got my first battleship blown up by pirates" posts as trolls.
Maybe, just maybe, if people exercised some basic netiquette (remember that? Lets party like it's 1999) and tried reading for a bit before opening their big stupid pie hole people would be nicer to them.
tldr: Coming in here and ****ing on the carpet doesn't win you any friends. |
Longbow McFarris
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Sorry but its true..after reading alot of posts on the forums. Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life. And it seems to be a growing breed.. Everyone who posts and yes everyone anything if its game changes, suggestions, or just general stuff, all you guys do (and there is a alot) is tell them to leave the game, get lost, idiots, tell them to die..Hardly any of you give constructive information or can actually have a conversation..Its disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves...
I am guessing you have never been in the WoW forums then. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life.
So... it's safe to assume, this is the FIRST forum of a MMO you've ever participated on, correct ?
not at all..but the point is probably 99% of posts are of just they type of thing i mentioned..have a look for yourself..hey its even on this post..like yourself
If this is a fairly transparent flamebaiting/trolling ploy, I'll bite anyway.
What exactly DO you expect anyway ? How many moron new threads can you stand over the course of the years before finally snapping at the hundredth one you encounter in just one year ? How many "done to death" discussions can you post in before simply calling everybody who disagrees with reality on general principles or whatnot an idiot ?
There are people who ask something nicely, they get a nice response. See a typical example... you get somebody who was ganked in a hauler carrying most of his networth on him. He could come in here screaming "gah exploit rabble rabble game sucks blah fixitnowbecauseIpaidmoneytoplay etc". OBVIOUSLY, such a person will be flamed to hell and back. Now, take the same person, but with the least bit of decency. He might come in here and ask "is this normal ? what can I do to prevent that in the future?". This type of person will get replies telling him it's seldom newbies are so calm about it, and get hints as to how to tank his haulers and advice to do it in several trips and so on and so forth. Of course, the really good kind of people would have simply searched the forum first, and found the relevant advice even before he got ganked, so he DIDN'T get ganked in the first place.
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Agressive, rude morons get arrogant, unhelpful and rude replies. A lot of people that make their first thread (or one of the first threads) sadly fall under this category.
Many people do that since the "search" function is not that great, and they "fail at google" (or don't know a thing about eve-search.com, same story, different day.) If somebody opens up a discussion that has been resolved in another thread on the first page (or one of the first couple of pages), obviously he'll get arrogant, unhelpful and rude replies too. Most of the rest of the posters fall under this category.
Polite people of all intelectual ranges get helpful or joking replies, which may or may not be arrogant, depending on how intelligent the OP is perceived to be due to his actions. You have to look really hard to find such threads.
Is that clearer now ?
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Wild Rho
Amarr Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Sorry but its true..after reading alot of posts on the forums. Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life. And it seems to be a growing breed.. Everyone who posts and yes everyone anything if its game changes, suggestions, or just general stuff, all you guys do (and there is a alot) is tell them to leave the game, get lost, idiots, tell them to die..Hardly any of you give constructive information or can actually have a conversation..Its disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves...
Part of it is down to the same topics/complaints/demands/questions being posted time and time again regardless of the answers. After a while the people who would post something helpful just can't be bothered anymore so that leaves the field open to everyone else who are basically happy to just muck about in the thread until it gets boring or is locked.
Many of the questions that do get posted these days could easily be answered using Eve Search, for the complaints/demand type posts...well they're just asking for trouble anyway so meh. |
Hermosa Diosas
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: TraininVain Edited by: TraininVain on 25/05/2009 13:16:07
Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Sorry but its true..after reading alot of posts on the forums. Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life. And it seems to be a growing breed.. Everyone who posts and yes everyone anything if its game changes, suggestions, or just general stuff, all you guys do (and there is a alot) is tell them to leave the game, get lost, idiots, tell them to die..Hardly any of you give constructive information or can actually have a conversation..Its disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves...
TBH "robust" replies to stupid threads are a valuable tool for maintaining community standards.
I mean here's the thing - the posts that get rude replies are probably fairly stupid.
The suggestions of which you speak have probably been suggested a couple of hundred times before and/or are probably horribly thought out.
The general stuff is probably shrill whining. There is so much QQing that people now make fake "I got my first battleship blown up by pirates" posts as trolls.
Maybe, just maybe, if people exercised some basic netiquette (remember that? Lets party like it's 1999) and tried reading for a bit before opening their big stupid pie hole people would be nicer to them.
tldr: Coming in here and ****ing on the carpet doesn't win you any friends.
Seriously that was a steaming dump - you think i WANT to be friends with these people?? Really?? Errr NO! |
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Hermosa Diosas
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: Wild Rho
Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Sorry but its true..after reading alot of posts on the forums. Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life. And it seems to be a growing breed.. Everyone who posts and yes everyone anything if its game changes, suggestions, or just general stuff, all you guys do (and there is a alot) is tell them to leave the game, get lost, idiots, tell them to die..Hardly any of you give constructive information or can actually have a conversation..Its disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourselves...
Part of it is down to the same topics/complaints/demands/questions being posted time and time again regardless of the answers. After a while the people who would post something helpful just can't be bothered anymore so that leaves the field open to everyone else who are basically happy to just muck about in the thread until it gets boring or is locked.
Many of the questions that do get posted these days could easily be answered using Eve Search, for the complaints/demand type posts...well they're just asking for trouble anyway so meh.
Might as well just reomve the forums then..seeing no one can post without getting abused...seriosuly though these forums have a serious lack of moderation. |
TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: TraininVain on 25/05/2009 13:25:29 It's a figure of speech. For "Win you any friends" read "Not have everyone telling you to GET OUT".
Also, replying only to part of the post is a fairly obvious troll tactic
Srsly, the verbal abuse stupid people get on here is a form of moderation. |
Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Xtreem problem is alot of topics / questions come up so much people get annoyed who have seen them time and again
Having to use a third party website to search the forums isn't helping in that aspect though. |
Hermosa Diosas
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: TraininVain Edited by: TraininVain on 25/05/2009 13:25:29 It's a figure of speech. For "Win you any friends" read "Not have everyone telling you to GET OUT".
Also, replying only to part of the post is a fairly obvious troll tactic
Srsly, the verbal abuse stupid people get on here is a form of moderation.
Ok fair enough..lol not at all dude i agreed with your other part..no comment needed.. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Might as well just reomve the forums then..seeing no one can post without getting abused...seriosuly though these forums have a serious lack of moderation.
The users are the moderation. The abuse to a SEEMINGLY benign post is usually a sign you said or did something really stupid. EVE-O forums - with just as much PVP as the game itself.
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Hermosa Diosas
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Hermosa Diosas
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Ive never see such arrogance, unhelpful, rude people in my entire gaming life.
So... it's safe to assume, this is the FIRST forum of a MMO you've ever participated on, correct ?
not at all..but the point is probably 99% of posts are of just they type of thing i mentioned..have a look for yourself..hey its even on this post..like yourself
If this is a fairly transparent flamebaiting/trolling ploy, I'll bite anyway.
What exactly DO you expect anyway ? How many moron new threads can you stand over the course of the years before finally snapping at the hundredth one you encounter in just one year ? How many "done to death" discussions can you post in before simply calling everybody who disagrees with reality on general principles or whatnot an idiot ?
There are people who ask something nicely, they get a nice response. See a typical example... you get somebody who was ganked in a hauler carrying most of his networth on him. He could come in here screaming "gah exploit rabble rabble game sucks blah fixitnowbecauseIpaidmoneytoplay etc". OBVIOUSLY, such a person will be flamed to hell and back. Now, take the same person, but with the least bit of decency. He might come in here and ask "is this normal ? what can I do to prevent that in the future?". This type of person will get replies telling him it's seldom newbies are so calm about it, and get hints as to how to tank his haulers and advice to do it in several trips and so on and so forth. Of course, the really good kind of people would have simply searched the forum first, and found the relevant advice even before he got ganked, so he DIDN'T get ganked in the first place.
...
Agressive, rude morons get arrogant, unhelpful and rude replies. A lot of people that make their first thread (or one of the first threads) sadly fall under this category.
Many people do that since the "search" function is not that great, and they "fail at google" (or don't know a thing about eve-search.com, same story, different day.) If somebody opens up a discussion that has been resolved in another thread on the first page (or one of the first couple of pages), obviously he'll get arrogant, unhelpful and rude replies too. Most of the rest of the posters fall under this category.
Polite people of all intelectual ranges get helpful or joking replies, which may or may not be arrogant, depending on how intelligent the OP is perceived to be due to his actions. You have to look really hard to find such threads.
Is that clearer now ?
So this gives you the god given right to be abusive? No does it hell..why cant you just ignore the post? Why feel the need to write stuff which is inappropriate? I agree the search function on the forums is terrible, but people have suggestions, like to talk about things (thats what a forum is a community to discussion). You cant flame people and be downright abusive cos they made a post you may have seen a few times..sorry dont wash... |
Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:31:00 -
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and proud of it... <3 |
TraininVain
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Originally by: Xtreem problem is alot of topics / questions come up so much people get annoyed who have seen them time and again
Having to use a third party website to search the forums isn't helping in that aspect though.
Yeah. Fair point. CCP should hire Chribba tbh.
Mind you, the same stuff comes up over and over on a fairly short cycle so if people spent any time reading they'd have some clue. |
Hermosa Diosas
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:33:00 -
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Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 25/05/2009 13:36:35
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Might as well just reomve the forums then..seeing no one can post without getting abused...seriosuly though these forums have a serious lack of moderation.
The users are the moderation. The abuse to a SEEMINGLY benign post is usually a sign you said or did something really stupid. EVE-O forums - with just as much PVP as the game itself.
The users are not the moderation ,you saying telling people die, feckoff blah blah and being a abusive is moderation? How? People just ask for help sometimes or something are your still abusive to them... its not acceptable full stop...its like saying hey teenagers go beat that old guy up cos he dont like you jumping on his car!! but hey its a form of the street moderation so its ok...PLEASE!!! thats a disgusting comment to make..
just so you know the term of moderation
ModerationÆ is the practice of:
* facilitating online consultations to ensure that everyone can take part in discussion, get their views across and that the consultation meets its objectives; * maintaining the flow of the discussion by checking all posts in relation to the terms and conditions of the site. |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.25 13:35:00 -
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We aim to please.
Also, it's hard not to be arrogant when you're the best… |
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