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Soulles
Caldari The SMITE Brotherhood
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Posted - 2009.05.28 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: Soulles on 28/05/2009 16:42:30 How can a game with only 5500 Square miles of terrain claim to be the largest game in the world. You can go afk moving at 500 MS and never reach the other side of any system in the entire EvE world. Here is the link.
Largest Game in the world ONLY 5500 SQ MIles
Everyone send the author of the article a email on how screwed up they are.
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Sanguis Sanies
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.05.28 16:59:00 -
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wasn't one of the Elder Scrolls games the size of the UK? |
Lazarann
Caldari Balls Deep Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 17:08:00 -
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Considering long distances in Eve are measured in AU's which is over 92 million miles, I'm pretty sure Eve is bigger
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Hugh Jerection
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Posted - 2009.05.28 17:17:00 -
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What do i measure in sq miles, i am Hugh Jerection after all. Do i get an award???????????????????
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Captain Megadeath
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Posted - 2009.05.28 17:20:00 -
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Black Shark World ôDCS: Black Sharkö operations will be based in the western Caucus region and will include portions of Russia, Georgia and a small part of Turkey. With Russia, special attention is paid to the Krasnodarskiy, Karachayrvo-Cherkesiya, Kabardino-Balkariya and StavropolÆskey regions. Some of this area will be recognizable from ôFlaming Cliffsö, but ôDCS: Black Sharkö has added a considerable new amount of terrain, particularly much of Georgia. The ôDCS: Black Sharkö map is approximately 330,000 sq. km of ground and sea area.
BlackShark Map.
DCS:Black Shark
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Grez
Minmatar Core Contingency Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.05.28 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lazarann Considering long distances in Eve are measured in AU's which is over 92 million miles, I'm pretty sure Eve is bigger
Space != terrain. --- Grez: I shot the sheriff Kalazar: But I could not lock the Deputy BECAUSE OF FALCON |
weazlor
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Posted - 2009.05.28 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Grez
Space != terrain.
How many planets/moons/stations are in eve. Unless they're not terrain either?
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Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.05.28 18:06:00 -
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Dwarf Fortress is bigger, with at least 38809 square km of pure random generated epicness. ---
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Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.05.28 18:17:00 -
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Reporters gave up any pretense of objectivity and fact checking long ago, so I really wouldnt worry about it. Unless mindless propaganda and bald faced self intrest related in a medium regarded as one of the defenses agains either of those bothers you.
In any case I like raceing games, Fuel might be fun considering the size of the world.
But nothing really tops Dwarf Fortress in the single player market.
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.05.28 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah Dwarf Fortress is bigger, with at least 38809 square km of pure random generated epicness.
But who ever plays on a map that size?
Its all about the z levels
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Shadow Devourer
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Posted - 2009.05.28 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: weazlor
How many planets/moons/stations are in eve. Unless they're not terrain either?
Those low res spheres sure take a while to explore.
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.05.28 18:29:00 -
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Ever notice the article references console games?
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Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.05.28 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Known Ever notice the article references console games?
Headline: "Fuel is biggest game ever -- literally"
Which is blatently false.
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.28 18:50:00 -
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EVE is almost entirely completely empty. If an empty grid with a pretty star background consitutes your idea of 'terrain', then I suppose EVE wins. I think that article, however, was referring specifically to terrain that you can interact with, which in EVE consists of stations, gates, and asteroids -- none of which can be interacted with in any way more meaningful than bumping off them.
-- Becq Starforged
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.05.28 18:50:00 -
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Obviously, they haven't seen the TITANS some players have!
Win a Wyvern mothership for 10M ISK |
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Alex Raptos
Caldari Phoenix Rising.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba Obviously, they haven't seen the TITANS some players have!
Subtle
Originally by: Dirk Magnum I've become gay for Mark Harmon despite my initial reservations about the show NCIS but nobody will ever know
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Wacktopia
Infinity Miners Union Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr
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Posted - 2009.05.28 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sanguis Sanies wasn't one of the Elder Scrolls games the size of the UK?
Elder Scrolls II - 'Daggerfall'.
Loved that game. The GFX were iffy but for shere size and exploration value it won hands down at the time.... *eyes glaze over*
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Snasty
Caldari The Hippies House of Mercury
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Posted - 2009.05.28 19:15:00 -
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Would most flight sims not have more "terrain"?
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2009.05.28 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sanguis Sanies wasn't one of the Elder Scrolls games the size of the UK?
Daggerfall (Elder Scrolls 2) was huge. Someone tested and it took 2 weeks real time to walk across the map. Of course there was fast-travel, which was used for all travel unless you really wanted to wander around (you could find hidden things doing so, but it took a while).
I don't know if that's the size of the UK or not, but it's pretty damn big.
The Elder Scrolls games since then have basically scaled the maps to--if I remember correctly--1/10 actual canonical size. The thing is, most of the content of Daggerfall's map was procedurally generated (like Eve!), with only the story-based things being hand-designed. The cities were bigger, dungeons were bigger...the whole game was bigger, but it wasn't all hand-designed like the later ones.
Daggerfall is still in many ways my favorite of the series. The series has been dumbed-down in the later ones for console consumption (especially Oblivion).
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies
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Posted - 2009.05.28 19:26:00 -
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While Eve's setting is obviously bigger, it is mostly procedurally generated. I could write a simple roguelike in a day or two that would randomly generate an infinite number of levels, but I doubt it'd be called the biggest game-world. They're probably only looking at hand-designed game settings (even though I can almost guarantee Fuel uses lots of modular terrain in its map).
So I'd say that maps generated automatically by a computer wouldn't really be in the running, since they can be infinitely big. I do love randomly/procedurally-generated maps, though, so nothing against them.
Also, like others have said, most of Eve's setting is emptiness. The planets are spheres with blurry textures on them and the stations are single rooms with a UI overlaid.
It does seem that they only consider mainstream console games also, which bugs me, but to many people, those are the only games that matter.
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Soulles
Caldari The SMITE Brotherhood
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Posted - 2009.05.28 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: Soulles on 28/05/2009 20:05:57 I could accept its only the console market BUT with the direct comparison to world of warcraft put the reference to only console games out the window.
"It's also larger than enormous games like Fallout 3 (which replicates much of Washington, D.C. and its surrounding area), fantasy worlds like those of World of Warcraft and Oblivion, and the vast metropolises of the Grand Theft Auto series. "
Now granted the author of that article might of used World of Warcraft as something to compare it to with its millions of lemming subscribers. Its the Guinness Book of World Records judges as to what the criteria are.
But I find it hard to believe that there is another game with the vastness that EvE encapsulates and should deserve a mention of its size too with the Guinness people. If they are going to start recording records for games .
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Chris Liath
Gallente Nex Exercitus Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.05.28 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: Chris Liath on 28/05/2009 21:18:47 Infinity: The Quest For Earth is supposedly going to be big. Very, very big. Procedural programming allows them to have an entire universe, with planned interacteable planets, scenery and all, in orbit around a solar system. I'll totally check that out when it hits.
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Fifinella
Caldari Noir.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 23:00:00 -
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The article might be misleading, I've heard from elsewhere that they only claim to have the biggest _driving game_ world ever.
Anyway, World War Online, aka Battlefield Europe, has 30 000 km2 of playable area.
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Lazarann
Caldari Balls Deep Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Grez
Originally by: Lazarann Considering long distances in Eve are measured in AU's which is over 92 million miles, I'm pretty sure Eve is bigger
Space != terrain.
True but what they refer to as "accessible in-game terrain" is equal to our space. It basically means the area that you play in.
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Zey Nadar
Gallente Stormwatch Galactic
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Posted - 2009.05.29 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Lazarann Considering long distances in Eve are measured in AU's which is over 92 million miles, I'm pretty sure Eve is bigger
Its mostly empty space though.
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.05.29 10:17:00 -
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Awesome. It better have a roaming mode. "BRB GOING FOR A DRIVE"
Win.
But yes, this is about TERRAIN. Space isn't terrain... its just... space. Its not that hard to generate a whole lot of nothing now, is it.
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Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.05.29 10:22:00 -
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Military experts are calling this a direct result of having a very comfortable life with very little to worry about.
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Navtiqes
Space Sheriff
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Posted - 2009.05.29 10:23:00 -
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This isn't to diss EVE, but it can't compete.
Firstly you'd have to only count the size of the largest grid, because all the game is is a selection of grids with a space background behind it. It doesn't matter that there's a huge amount of systems because you're only ever on one grid at a time.
Secondly, 1km in EVE is not equal to 1km in a groundbased game because of how ridiculously fast we can move in EVE at max speed.
Thirdly, even if you disregard all the above, EVE fails the comparison because you're moving through empty space. There's no "map" in EVE in the sense that you play on maps in Half Life / Cstrike / etc.
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Dagobert Dog
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Posted - 2009.05.29 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lazarann Considering long distances in Eve are measured in AU's which is over 92 million miles, I'm pretty sure Eve is bigger
What's that for a weird unit? Miles? Can we please use a propper metrical unit like meter? We are not living in the medieval, so we should use some proper and modern set of units.
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AxisKiller
Caldari Hatori Mining Services
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Posted - 2009.05.29 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dagobert Dog What's that for a weird unit? Miles? Can we please use a propper metrical unit like meter? We are not living in the medieval, so we should use some proper and modern set of units.
It is. It's the distance from the Earth to the Sun if I remember right. Also, it would be hard to put more than 500,000,000mi in the overview, don't you think?
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