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Happy Joymaker
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2009.05.28 22:00:00 -
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To all those who won in the recent CSM election, congrats.
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Zastrow J
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.28 22:41:00 -
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i will consider my term a success if, by the time it's over, all you kids who never lived in 0.0 space want to live in 0.0, or at least hang out and do things there
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.05.29 01:27:00 -
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 Originally by: Zastrow J
i will consider my term a success if, by the time it's over, all you kids who never lived in 0.0 space want to live in 0.0, or at least hang out and do things there
Dont forget about Lowsec 
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep.
I am always here.
Watching.
Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
it does get progressively longer.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2009.05.29 03:34:00 -
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It looks like a good group, and I wish them all the best of luck in their term.
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Spiffy Sunkist
Malevolent Evolution
The Church.
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Posted - 2009.05.29 06:52:00 -
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I congrat the CSM council.However i think it should not be allowed to have more than one member from thesame alliance
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Navtiqes
Space Sheriff
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Posted - 2009.05.29 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Zastrow J
i will consider my term a success if, by the time it's over, all you kids who never lived in 0.0 space want to live in 0.0, or at least hang out and do things there
I take it you're personally removing POS warfare from the game then.
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Solo Player
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Posted - 2009.05.29 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zastrow J
i will consider my term a success if, by the time it's over, all you kids who never lived in 0.0 space want to live in 0.0, or at least hang out and do things there
...by making Empire space even more unbearable than 0.0, I assume?
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Issler Dainze
Minmatar
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.05.29 19:48:00 -
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I am wondering how everyone could ever live in 0.0 when clearly the large alliance will ALWAYS control that space just as they do today. Since a lot of the new CSM are members of large alliances maybe making everyone be in a large alliance is the plan. By the way, I can get anyone that wants to join Goonswarm in for just 500 million isks, contact me for details... 
Sadly I am worried this election will mean not getting low sec fixed or addressing some basic issues like volume of ore in high sec.
I hope I am wrong but not a lot of carebear candidates made the slate.
Issler
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Venomire
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.29 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Issler Dainze
I hope I am wrong but not a lot of carebear candidates made the slate.
What?
The CSM is four 0.0 players, four empire highsec players, and an empire lowsec player. That's a good group right there.
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Issler Dainze
Minmatar
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.05.30 00:40:00 -
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Edited by: Issler Dainze on 30/05/2009 00:46:27
So I thought maybe I was wrong so I went back and checked again. None of the candidates would claim industry, trade or mining as their focus. Lets look at them using data from their own campaign pages:
Dierdra Vaal - PvP (from Dierda's website - My 6 page document on guns for hire (bounty hunters and mercenaries) took me quite a while to make.)
Vuk Lau - 0.0 - big alliance (I actually like Vuk alot but he is no carebear  )
mazzilliu - First issue mentioned was POS warfare - seems smart but not a carebear
Zastrow J - Goonfleet
Erik Finnegan - Take Care Party - FW and medals if Ank is any indication - hope I am proven wrong.
Avalloc - Goonfleet
Omber Zombie - Likely most rounded player in terms of knowledge - not a carebear - But who I would have voted for if I wasn't running (Actually I would have split my votes between OZ and Vuk, both impressed me in Iceland)
Larkonis Trassler - PvP - not a carebear
Meissa Anunthiel - 20+ plus years of software development experience? (right started at age 12??), well at least a software engineer which could be good, but clearly not a carebear
So I don't think anyone there would be a representative of the casual players and PVE types I had hoped to represent. We also no longer have a CSM member that is as focused on the economy as LaVista Vista was previously. May not matter, but would have been nice to see someone running with that as a major part of their focus.
I do think everyone of those folks is bright and has the best intentions for Eve, will take the job of CSM seriously and will do well for the folks they represent. The question is how many of them will think about the other segments in Eve.
Issler
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Rajere
No Trademark
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Posted - 2009.05.30 13:59:00 -
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Balances out the fact that there was way too many carebears in the 2nd CSM for anything to get done.
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Issler Dainze
Minmatar
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.05.30 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere
Balances out the fact that there was way too many carebears in the 2nd CSM for anything to get done.
I'd love you to point out any evidence you have that carebears in the second CSM kept anything from getting done. My point is that a very large segment of the player base ended up with no representation this term. It will take a while to see if that matters at all.
Issler
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2009.05.30 20:47:00 -
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while I wont be posting them on the forums myself, I'm always open to support properly constructed carebear topics and bring them to the council.
Director of Education :: EVE University
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Venomire
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.01 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Issler Dainze
Zastrow J - Goonfleet
Avalloc - Goonfleet
Zastrow is one of our primary logistics guys. Avalloc is rather wealthy and runs several reimbursement programs out of pocket. They know the industrial side of EVE.
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Meissa Anunthiel
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Posted - 2009.06.01 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Issler Dainze
So I thought maybe I was wrong so I went back and checked again. None of the candidates would claim industry, trade or mining as their focus. Lets look at them using data from their own campaign pages:
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Meissa Anunthiel - 20+ plus years of software development experience? (right started at age 12??), well at least a software engineer which could be good, but clearly not a carebear
Actually, I started programming when I was 8, on an XT. Programmed professionally since I was 19 however, so only 13 years there...
And you're wrong about the focus. Industry is clearly one of the things I focus on, trade also (well, I have to sell what I produce). Mining I do every now and then (in 0.0 or during CSM meetings :p).
Where you're wrong is the assumption that one need to be one thing or the other, carebear or PvPer to care about a given activity. While it's generally true, it's provably false in many instances.
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Niskin
Minmatar
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.06.01 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel
Where you're wrong is the assumption that one need to be one thing or the other, carebear or PvPer to care about a given activity. While it's generally true, it's provably false in many instances.
I've been saying the same thing to her for a while now.
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Issler Dainze
Minmatar
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.06.02 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: Niskin
Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel
Where you're wrong is the assumption that one need to be one thing or the other, carebear or PvPer to care about a given activity. While it's generally true, it's provably false in many instances.
I've been saying the same thing to her for a while now.
Difference is, Meissa might be someone worth listening too, never had much value add from any of your postings Niskin.
I am going to stick by my comment about the lack of causal or care bear focused CSM members. I know you don't have to "be" that to know how to represent that but I think it was clear reading all of the candidates election postings that the casual and/or care bear segment of players I wanted to represent are not the focus of anyone that was elected.
Again, I think all of the folks in the CSM 3 seems to be serious about their obligations and seem bright, so I am sure if something gets on their radar they will give it reasonable consideration with at least the attempt to remain unbiased. Remember however, the CSM gets to pick and choose what they decide to champion from the assembly hall. So their focus and personal bias will effect the agenda of the CSM 3.
Issler
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Issler Dainze
Minmatar
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
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Posted - 2009.06.02 07:30:00 -
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Originally by: Venomire
Originally by: Issler Dainze
Zastrow J - Goonfleet
Avalloc - Goonfleet
Zastrow is one of our primary logistics guys. Avalloc is rather wealthy and runs several reimbursement programs out of pocket. They know the industrial side of EVE.
It is all about what their primary focus will be as they decide what to bring to the CSM.
Zastow's campaign was all about 0.0 improvements.
Looking at Avalloc his first focus from his web page was 0.0 combat revamp. Something that I will guaranty you affects a minority of Eve, maybe a visible but vocal segment but by number a minority.
Also it is hard to imagine how someone that has made their life in Eve being a member of Goonfleet is going to make the relating to or focusing on the experience of the new or casual players.
We have a mining situation in Eve today with roid fields that have if anything been nerfed from where they were when I started 4 years ago and yet we have 8X the players in those belts and macro miners getting more sophisticated and basically left to run wild. Who is going to make that their focus?
Not sure how being wealthy or generous increases the likelihood of spending some CSM time focusing on that carebear segment.
So I remain skeptical but hoping to be proven wrong about what the CSM 3 will choose to tackle in their term.
Issler
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Vuk Lau
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Posted - 2009.06.02 09:57:00 -
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TBH I think that between all CSM 3.0 candidates two biggest carebears are OZ and myself.
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Happy Joymaker
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.02 15:30:00 -
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wow, what a nice derail from a simple congrats from someone who didn't win (not that I was expecting to anyways - my alliance isn't large enough to guarantee myself a seat, and I didn't appeal to the majority of players who were outside of the larger allainces and were looking for a candidate, as I am more 0.0 focused as opposed to empire focused.)
Anyways, a continued congrats to those who won. I will slowly post my ideas in the other forum section for your consideration.
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