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Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2009.05.31 04:55:00 - [1] I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations", it's a nice thought and we're kinda interested but really for the game it just sounds like a time/isk sink. Instead I'm sure we could all benefit from any time assigned to that non-critical feature to be reassigned to UI improvements such as a new (and working) Evemail interface. There are many important things being skipped over in favour of features no one has requested. Which in-turn add nothing to the game. If these eye-candy patches are released before bug-fixes and UI improvements, I think I'll stop my subscriptions ahead of more inaction.
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2009.05.31 05:00:00 - [2] Maybe with all the time saved they could get around to picking a better font for Eve :-)
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre	Posted - 2009.05.31 05:19:00 - [3] Originally by: Dr BattleSmith I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations", it's a nice thought and we're kinda interested but really for the game it just sounds like a time/isk sink. Instead I'm sure we could all benefit from any time assigned to that non-critical feature to be reassigned to UI improvements such as a new (and working) Evemail interface. There are many important things being skipped over in favour of features no one has requested. Which in-turn add nothing to the game. If these eye-candy patches are released before bug-fixes and UI improvements, I think I'll stop my subscriptions ahead of more inaction. Maybe if you bothered to read and pay attention you'd know this is a waste of time as the dev's working on ambulation are not a part of the main core of EVE... It's a different department entirely. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com ========================= Dependable, Honorable, Intelligent, No-nonsense Vote Herschel Yamamoto for CSM!
Chomapuraku Templar Republic	Posted - 2009.05.31 05:31:00 - [4] Originally by: Drake Draconis Originally by: Dr BattleSmith I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations", it's a nice thought and we're kinda interested but really for the game it just sounds like a time/isk sink. Instead I'm sure we could all benefit from any time assigned to that non-critical feature to be reassigned to UI improvements such as a new (and working) Evemail interface. There are many important things being skipped over in favour of features no one has requested. Which in-turn add nothing to the game. If these eye-candy patches are released before bug-fixes and UI improvements, I think I'll stop my subscriptions ahead of more inaction. Maybe if you bothered to read and pay attention you'd know this is a waste of time as the dev's working on ambulation are not a part of the main core of EVE... It's a different department entirely. regardless, that department uses resources at CCP that can be allotted to better, more useful projects. i'd much rather see a new ship class or faster deployment of dynamic, hidden roid belts than walking in stations. oh, and btw, ccp, make hidden roid belts so that you have to run several scans and move your ship around to find the belt, rather than dropping one probe and getting warpins on all of them. Originally by: Misanth Being nice doesn't pay off, you should stop listening to the right shoulder parrot. The left one is usually right. so she shouldnt listen to the left one either?
Tobruk Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.05.31 06:52:00 - [5] Edited by: Tobruk on 31/05/2009 06:52:34 this game is like a 1940s russian tank the very best, innovative, groundbreaking but shot out so fast its crammed full of rough edges, bugs, imbalances, etc etc CCP needs to fix whats wrong with eve currently rather than introduce ambulation (which none of its current customer base paid to play) ---------------------------------------------- Sig removed. Elmo Pug removed my sig because he hates me
Isaac Starstriker Amarr Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.05.31 06:56:00 - [6] Umm, no. We do not get the ability to dictate CCP policy. Have a problem with that? Too bad. I have loads of problems with other Developers of other games, but do you hear me whining? no. CCP can do whatever it wants. You can quit the game in protest or go back to playing like you already are. --Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart - Closed
Qoi New Eden Warriors	Posted - 2009.05.31 11:28:00 - [7] Originally by: Chomapuraku regardless, that department uses resources at CCP that can be allotted to better, more useful projects. i'd much rather see a new ship class or faster deployment of dynamic, hidden roid belts than walking in stations. oh, and btw, ccp, make hidden roid belts so that you have to run several scans and move your ship around to find the belt, rather than dropping one probe and getting warpins on all of them. They are developing a Vampire MMO and thought it would be nice to use the engine for something else, so they develop Ambulation, too. Of course they could stop every involvement in EVE and focus on their more important core task. I can't see how this would help the EVE codebase tbh. And: NO.
RedSplat Heretic Army	Posted - 2009.05.31 11:35:00 - [8] I would rather see the Time, effort and money put into Ambulation used elsewhere on critical game areas. Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
Necronus Amarr Monks of War United Legion	Posted - 2009.05.31 11:36:00 - [9] Ambulation is a musthave. Why? Because its one step to making eve MMO Sci-fi game, not only just internet spaceship game. Which is awesome. Maybe it has small use at the moment ,but thats the plan to add things slowly.
Lunewraith Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2009.05.31 12:09:00 - [10] Not supported. Too much Dev time, money and manpower invested into a mechanic which is deep into production (which I'll agree could have been better used to refine the existing game). Ambulation is a framework for which future CCP products will launch from; its unlikely to be stopped even if feedback from the Eve playerbase was resoundingly negative. Accept it and move on. Do a little work, get a free PLEX card!
TraininVain	Posted - 2009.05.31 12:22:00 - [11] Not supported. It's a good feature and will bring in a lot of new players.
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange	Posted - 2009.05.31 13:18:00 - [12] While it's kind of fun to rag on ambulation, there's not a snowball's chance in hell of CCP abandoning this feature, certainly not at this late stage. Asking for it would be a waste of the CSM's time, and a pointless insult to CCP. Not supported.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.06.01 17:09:00 - [13] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto While it's kind of fun to rag on ambulation, there's not a snowball's chance in hell of CCP abandoning this feature, certainly not at this late stage. Asking for it would be a waste of the CSM's time, and a pointless insult to CCP. Not supported. This. Not supported --Vel Experience is what you get right after you need it.
Chris Sandstorm Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.01 17:28:00 - [14] Originally by: Dr BattleSmith I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations"... Actually, i do.
Izo Alabaster Friendly Neighbourhood Extortion Company	Posted - 2009.06.01 18:05:00 - [15] Please scrap the whole WIS idea. It's too grandiose an idea to implement without devoting huge amounts of resources to it. It doesn't actually yield anything for the community besides a bit of extra eye candy. Instead, please fix logoffski mechanics, overview phantom-ship bugs, sound bugs and nerf Minmatar.
Kytanos Termek Caldari Darkstorm Command Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.06.01 18:09:00 - [16] Not, Supported. Ambulation is a much needed bone for us roleplayers, this is what we have requested and scratched for since launch, After 6 years, Ill be damned if we don't finally get our fulfillment. In addition, it will have other neat stuff, like that table game showed at fanfest, and possibly eve poker ingame, which is cool also.
Sanaril Wolfchild Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.01 20:21:00 - [17] They devoted an extra team to this, do you really believe a few unhappy players can stop WiS? Did you hear what they told us at the fanfaire about it last year? No way, that any force can stop WiS
Aethrwolf Caldari Home for Wayward Gamers	Posted - 2009.06.02 08:19:00 - [18] I dont particularly want WiS, but I have to say that it will probably greatly expand the playerbase, and therefore CCP's available money to spend on fixing other stuff, so I cant support this. Absolutely everything is subjective.
LukeWarm Hole	Posted - 2009.06.02 09:42:00 - [19] Originally by: Chris Sandstorm Originally by: Dr BattleSmith I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations"... Actually, i do. I do too. Not Supported
Taudia Gallente Sane Industries Inc. Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.06.02 13:29:00 - [20] Edited by: Taudia on 02/06/2009 13:29:10 Originally by: LukeWarm Hole Originally by: Chris Sandstorm Originally by: Dr BattleSmith I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations"... Actually, i do. I do too. Not Supported Thirded. Also, by now I believe a lot of resources have gone into this already and CCP have hinted planetary landing is in (very early) development. Even with the reservation that Walking In Stations does not use technology that will benefit more concrete future gameplay, too much has been invested in it to just scrap it at this point. EDIT: for typo's.
Odhinn Vinlandii V I R I I Cult of War	Posted - 2009.06.02 18:48:00 - [21] Originally by: Sanaril Wolfchild They devoted an extra team to this, do you really believe a few unhappy players can stop WiS? Did you hear what they told us at the fanfaire about it last year? No way, that any force can stop WiS Something is stopping it. It's two years behind schedule.
Verys The Black Ops Black Core Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.02 18:56:00 - [22] Edited by: Verys on 02/06/2009 18:56:38 Ambulation will expand the game towards the vision of CCP which is creating a living and breathing artificial universe. It's one of the things I have been looking forward too since the moment I heard about it. Sure some things could be polished but it is up to you and the rest of the community to bring this up to CCP, by example with F&I, Game Dev and Assembly Hall. If you really want something changed bring up an idea that many people will like and I'm sure it gets into the game. Now please stop trying to tell CCP how they should do they're corporation management. BTW: I want ambulation!!!
Oam Mkoll The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.02 20:17:00 - [23] Edited by: Oam Mkoll on 02/06/2009 20:21:02 Edited by: Oam Mkoll on 02/06/2009 20:18:23 Good to see I'm not the only person not thrilled by Ambulation (or whatever it will end up being called). Adding all that functionality will not make EVE an avatar-based MMO. Players from 'normal games' will come, look around, realize there's nothing to do and then leave. People who should be playing EVE, the game's target audience, are either already in or will be drawn in through the.. you know.. EVE thing: internet spaceships. This expenditure of time and resources is nothing more than a gimmick. EVE is a fish and they're coding it a nice bike. There IS a ton of things to improve in EVE. Heck, even some extra factional warfare content would be nice (note: I don't give a crap about FW but it's a way to tie the core gameplay content to the setting). The Ambulation team may be a separate entity but I'm assuming they're neither thick nor volunteers. Which means CCP is paying talented people good cash to code that bike for our beloved fish. There is, naturally, a possibility that EVE really WILL develop in the same direction as Star Trek Online: spaceship combat and avatar-based gameplay onboard planets and stations. Possible but hey, not a single game could get it right while the internet spaceships thing is what EVE does right and where it's best. I wouldn't need to be a games marketing specialist to see a very risky course here. edit: Ofc not a snowball's chance in hell of Ambulation being abandoned now but this thread is a nice exercise to see how many people aren't really so thrilled by it. Hopefully CCP will just let it die like they did with Factional Warfare and reanimate FW which actually has relevance to EVE Online.
Orbital Deliverance Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.04 00:13:00 - [24] It has been stated repeatably that WiS is an off shoot of CCPS development of the World Of Darkness MMO, which despite the OPS whine isn't likely to be canceled. I doubt that the implementation of a Walking in Station module into the EvE client has any major impact on the already established EVE DEV teams.
Karlemgne Tides Of War	Posted - 2009.06.04 04:57:00 - [25] Worst idea ever in the history of EVE. Not to mention even if you got support for this crappy proposal, your chances of having CCP actually comply with it are about 0. My sig don't fracking work.
Jin Labarre	Posted - 2009.06.04 05:14:00 - [26] Originally by: Dr BattleSmith I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations" I want "walking in steation". Now think again. Originally by: Dr BattleSmith There are many important things being skipped over in favour of features no one has requested. Which in-turn add nothing to the game. Ambulation adds quite a lot to the game. Maybe not to your game, but to mine. Originally by: Dr BattleSmith If these eye-candy patches are released before bug-fixes and UI improvements, I think I'll stop my subscriptions ahead of more inaction. Please do so. Oh, can I have your stuff?
Antihrist Pripravnik Gallente Scorpion Road Industry	Posted - 2009.06.04 20:35:00 - [27] Originally by: Dr BattleSmith I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations" I do.
Red Raider Caldari Airbourne Demons DeMoN's N AnGeL's	Posted - 2009.06.04 21:03:00 - [28] Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Originally by: Dr BattleSmith I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations" I do. +1 In fact I am willing to be the vast majority are looking forward to it. You may not like or use it but it doesn't make it any less interesting as an addition to the EVEverse.
Yahrr The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.06.05 00:03:00 - [29] WIS to be installed yesterday! Can we also get a YARR button to use in station so I can listen to my own echo in my empty low sec station? :) WIS development should continue!
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2009.06.05 01:58:00 - [30] I think the point has been made..... Plenty of people are very much interested in old features more then new features. Even when I phrased the question in such a antagonistic way....
Nihilion Zero	Posted - 2009.06.05 15:45:00 - [31] Most definitely NOT supported. I speak for myself, as well as many other Eve players with whom I associate and have spoken with at length about ambulation, your assertion that nobody wants ambulation is false. Personally, I believe ambulation will add sorely needed dimensionality to the game. If implemented well, ambulation could potentially broaden the player base to include not only more, new players (good for everyone because noobs are the life-blood of an MMO), but more diverse players as well. For example, one of the reasons so few females play Eve is because they don't empathize as easily with an internet spaceship as males do. They like faces, gestures, and manipulating environments--collecting and creating things. Just because YOU don't want to play in ambulation, that doesn't mean other people don't either.
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2009.06.09 02:47:00 - [32] Originally by: Nihilion Zero Most definitely NOT supported. I speak for myself, as well as many other Eve players with whom I associate and have spoken with at length about ambulation, your assertion that nobody wants ambulation is false. Personally, I believe ambulation will add sorely needed dimensionality to the game. If implemented well, ambulation could potentially broaden the player base to include not only more, new players (good for everyone because noobs are the life-blood of an MMO), but more diverse players as well. For example, one of the reasons so few females play Eve is because they don't empathize as easily with an internet spaceship as males do. They like faces, gestures, and manipulating environments--collecting and creating things. Just because YOU don't want to play in ambulation, that doesn't mean other people don't either. I don't care either way. As long as evemail is fixed BEFORE it's implemented.
Korerin Mayul Amarr The R.I.T.U.A.L Corp	Posted - 2009.06.09 08:24:00 - [33] Originally by: Antihrist Pripravnik Originally by: Dr BattleSmith I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations" I do. as do i.
Faith O'Siras	Posted - 2009.06.09 15:35:00 - [34] Edited by: Faith O''Siras on 09/06/2009 15:35:52 Edited by: Faith O''Siras on 09/06/2009 15:35:20 Originally by: Dr BattleSmith I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations" <stuff> If these eye-candy patches are released before bug-fixes and UI improvements, I think I'll stop my subscriptions ahead of more inaction. Listen, pal ... I do want walking in stations. I really do. Don't ever speak for me, again. The next time you do, I'll have your pod. Also, GTFO out of my game. I can haz ur stuffz, righty right?
Efrim Black Gallente Shadow Cadre	Posted - 2009.06.10 01:39:00 - [35] Originally by: Odhinn Vinlandii Originally by: Sanaril Wolfchild They devoted an extra team to this, do you really believe a few unhappy players can stop WiS? Did you hear what they told us at the fanfaire about it last year? No way, that any force can stop WiS Something is stopping it. It's two years behind schedule. yeah development is, they are perfecting it. A version of it was played by lots of people at the last EVE fest. Not a video, they played it. It's coming soon. Besides, it's pretty obvious most people here want to get out of their ships and have a beer on occasion.
Uronksur Suth Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.06.11 21:20:00 - [36] Originally by: Dr BattleSmith I don't think anyone really wants "walking in stations", it's a nice thought and we're kinda interested but really for the game it just sounds like a time/isk sink. Instead I'm sure we could all benefit from any time assigned to that non-critical feature to be reassigned to UI improvements such as a new (and working) Evemail interface. There are many important things being skipped over in favour of features no one has requested. Which in-turn add nothing to the game. If these eye-candy patches are released before bug-fixes and UI improvements, I think I'll stop my subscriptions ahead of more inaction. No. I want WiS.
Rumba Purring	Posted - 2009.06.11 22:14:00 - [37] I want WiS, so please think again. ------------- Would you be ready if the gravity reversed itself?
Sappho Ajhannis Knowledge Stick Station	Posted - 2009.06.12 00:04:00 - [38] Lots of people want WiS. A fair few people don't. Without taking some sort of vote count on it I don't think anyone can say for sure what the % either way is. I like the idea of WiS, even though I do really want CCP to fix FW and loads of other stuff, just because it can make eve a more immersive, richer virtual world that will appeal to more people. After WiS? Maybe then would be a good time to go back and sort out the problems.
Guru Saurfang Minmatar	Posted - 2009.06.12 12:08:00 - [39] Linkage this project is bigger then EVE :P
Oam Mkoll Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.06.12 15:12:00 - [40] Here's what's gonna happen: 1. WiS comes out. Turns out to be 'unfinished' as it is obviously of very limited use in the core gameplay framework of EVE. 2. CCP adds several minor gimmicks in one or two patches. 3. Walking in Stations ends on the Dead Patch Graveyard right next to Factional Warfare. Meanwhile the mechanics that really need to be revisited (FW, mining, POSes) keep rotting on the side track. /sadface ---
Tobias Delgado	Posted - 2009.07.18 09:32:00 - [41] Edited by: Tobias Delgado on 18/07/2009 09:32:46 some people have said EVE is more of a Sci-Fi Simulator, and in most Sci-Fi Simulation games, that inculdes Captain your ship, going Planet Side on occasion, and walking about in the stations. Meaning WiS is a HUGE milestone for the simulation side of the game, so I have two words for you: NOT SUPPORTED
Terra Mikael Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.07.18 09:36:00 - [42] Going further, walking in stations will be mostly created by a CCP group who are working on a totally different game. they are pretty much going to copy/paste what that team did for walking in stat. ________________________________ Originally by: Lone Gunman Yes overpowered would be giving a ship with the Covert ops cloak the ability to fire say..Torpedos, now that would be overpowered. But CCP would
yani dumyat Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.07.18 11:33:00 - [43] Edited by: yani dumyat on 18/07/2009 11:34:00 Not supported, the day CCP concentrates too much on fixing the bugs instead of adding new content is the day eve will die. Originally by: Dr BattleSmith I don't think anyone really wants "insert latest expansion here", it's a nice thought and we're kinda interested but really for the game it just sounds like a time/isk sink. Instead I'm sure we could all benefit from any time assigned to that non-critical feature to be reassigned to UI improvements such as a new (and working) Evemail interface. There are many important things being skipped over in favour of features no one has requested. Which in-turn add nothing to the game. If these eye-candy patches are released before bug-fixes and UI improvements, I think I'll stop my subscriptions ahead of more inaction. Bolded the only edit required to turn your OP into the generic post that appears before every expansion. _________________________________________________ Lifeboat ----> + Human
Aria Selenis Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.07.18 14:05:00 - [44] Not supported. Quantum Rise was mostly game changes, bugfixes, and no new content save for the Orca. Quantum Rise was also my least favorite expansion due to this. It's important to realize that the art team of EVE doesn't write the code, the people fixing bugs are not the same people who are designing ambulation.. of course, if you'd like to have the art managers, writers, and other creative groups go in to rewrite the code and fix bugs, I'm sure things will turn out just fine.. I would like to see EVE expand beyond 'internet spaceships', into a thriving sci-fi setting. With more than spaceships. Don't play the game like it's a job and rage over the little things. Adding depth and character to the game are more important than fixing some minor bug somewhere in the game that cost you a killmail one time. And, of course, theres the fact that the people doing bugfixes are not going to stop because a new aspect is being added to the game... --- If all these people had their way, EVE would be a flawless game with no backstory that ran in ASCII. A text based adventure. "Why yes, I'd like to fly my ship up." Graphics? Fluff, fix the bugs! Background? Fix the bugs! New ships to fly? No new content, only bug fixes! New tactics, modules, areas, professions, etc...? Every game has bugs. If you try to stop all new content until every bug is fixed, the players will get bored, and the game will die. Remember you're still in an RPG here; Internet spaceships are not, in fact, serious business. I'm in support of anything that makes the game more fun for me to play, whether or not I have to (oh dear god why) tap tab twice to fix my overview once every few days.
Sharp Feather Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.07.19 00:12:00 - [45] Originally by: Guru Saurfang Linkage this project is bigger then EVE :P The poor OP dont see the big picture. WIS is a base for WOD, the next MMO from CCP. Wake up. ================================================= Before: Developers loved games and made money. Now: Developers love money and make games.
hired goon	Posted - 2009.07.19 16:02:00 - [46] anti-support post -omg-
Uronksur Suth Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.07.19 17:40:00 - [47] Originally by: hired goon anti-support post
Raukho Evoke. Ev0ke	Posted - 2009.07.19 17:42:00 - [48] no interest in wos here
Neti Keire Amarr Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Tread Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.20 05:47:00 - [49] Not supported. I for one am looking forward to ambulation.
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2009.07.20 07:23:00 - [50] Why people are so keen to pay a subscription to beta test CCPs new game I just don't know. Guess hype just effects some people badly.
van Uber Swedish Aerospace Inc Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.20 09:07:00 - [51] Originally by: Dr BattleSmith Why people are so keen to pay a subscription to beta test CCPs new game I just don't know. Guess hype just effects some people badly. Because the spaceships will still be there Such a waste of CSM time. Not supported.
So'Lar Wynde Minmatar	Posted - 2009.07.21 22:37:00 - [52] Personally, I want WIS. The lack of it to this point is the main reason I haven't played EVE until only a few weeks ago. I've played many other MMOs over the past 20 years (yeah, I consider some of the old MUDs as MMOs ) and am looking forward to a few others such as Star Trek Online (GAWD I hope they improve the character graphics before launch!) and Fallen Earth, but even though EVE has intrigued me, the lack of ingame characters has kept me from taking the plunge. It was only after a visit from my brother who plays EVE and his revelation that WIS was getting near that I decided to open two accounts and get started. The game as-it-is is quite awesome, but the lack of a 'real' ingame character is a turn-off to me as I'm sure it is to many, MANY other MMO players. Ambulation will give EVE the much-needed personification that is needed to actually pull a player into the game universe and will probably lead to other interesting features as well. So... NOT SUPPORTED. The Original Adder
Awesome Possum Insert Obscure Latin Name	Posted - 2009.07.22 00:48:00 - [53] Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Umm, no. We do not get the ability to dictate CCP policy. Have a problem with that? Too bad. I have loads of problems with other Developers of other games, but do you hear me whining? no. CCP can do whatever it wants. You can quit the game in protest or go back to playing like you already are. --Isaac He's not dictating policy, you fuckwit, he's asking. And I support it, WIS will be an abysmal failure, and the time/money spent on it would be better spent elsewhere. ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
voogru Gallente Massive Damage United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2009.07.22 00:51:00 - [54] Not supported. I want WIS. Hate Farmers? Click Here
Yakius Warkar Minmatar Industrial Limited	Posted - 2009.07.22 02:11:00 - [55] Don't need walking in stations.. can still have all the other cool features like players stores.
Ardetia Caldari United Front Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.28 02:03:00 - [56] Edited by: Ardetia on 28/07/2009 02:03:59 Sadly, I want to see this Ambulation live just because :) might bring new players?
Saju Somtaaw Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.07.28 03:57:00 - [57] NOT SUPPORTED I too am looking forward to WiS/Ambulation/Whatever-they-decide-to-call-it. Even if they weren't making it those resources wouldn't be used for Eve, as they're working on another MMO that will use the WiS engine as its base, Ambulation is just an extra that comes with it as well as a chance to get the graphics portion live and tested while the back-end stuff is worked on. ---- --- --- Devs Sign Here; GMs and ISD welcome to :)
ellena allente	Posted - 2009.07.28 05:17:00 - [58] I support ambulation completely.
A Ingus	Posted - 2009.07.28 14:08:00 - [59] Originally by: ellena allente I support ambulation completely. And I completely support your support of ambulation completely! Can't wait to see the rest of you walking in station. Heh.
Jarvis Hellstrom Gallente The Flying Tigers	Posted - 2009.07.28 14:24:00 - [60] I'm also signing in as one of the 'no ones' who want Walking in Stations. If it's not your cup of tea, that's fine, but a lot of folks are very much looking forward to it both I and my wife (who has her own characters and accounts) are really jonesing for it. As to why - it's hard to roleplay in a spaceship. New Eden is more than hulls and a lot of folks want to experience that. So what if they recycle the code? That's just good business and the cross pollination will mean that both games will benefit. May God stand between you and harm in all the Empty places you must walk (Old Egyptian Blessing)
Magna Monez	Posted - 2009.07.28 20:52:00 - [61] Originally by: ellena allente I support ambulation completely. I know, we all want to see the rest of your boobs :-)
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2009.07.29 01:15:00 - [62] Originally by: Magna Monez Originally by: ellena allente I support ambulation completely. I know, we all want to see the rest of your boobs :-) Once you've seen them can we have evemail updated and alot of the basic problems fixed?
Sir Ibex	Posted - 2009.07.31 14:45:00 - [63] Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Umm, no. We do not get the ability to dictate CCP policy. Have a problem with that? Too bad. --Isaac WRONG. We do get to dictate their policy, because without us they will make no money and there will be no business. (what's up with your sheepish attitude?) Their very success depends on us, players. Off course they have to sift through thousands of suggestions and proposals and choose what's needed and what's not. That is their job, they get paid well for it, and their wise decisions make EVE one of the best MMO's out there. But we do get to tell them what needs to be done, and they must, and will listen to us. I agree that walking in stations is unnecessary and all that effort would be best diverted into other directions. There are so many things that can be done that would be much more useful!
Kytanos Termek Caldari Darkstorm Command Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.07.31 16:19:00 - [64] No.
Cyprus Black 4 wing Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2009.07.31 19:45:00 - [65] /supported Walking in stations is a nice concept, but dev resources could be used in better endeavors. ______________ Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Dante Crovax	Posted - 2009.07.31 20:47:00 - [66] Not supported I am really looking forward to WIS and I hope that they choose to integrate many "ingame-games" like Poker, Chess and hopefully the best strategy game in history ever: Go.
CommanderData211	Posted - 2009.08.01 05:23:00 - [67] For all of the people saying that WIS will have no impact on gameplay and that it will simply be eye candy... When did CCP call you and tell you every little plan that they had for the mechanic? How on earth do you know every little detail they have planned for WIS? Did you ever think for one second that this is going to springboard into something more expansive than the tiny bit they showed at fanfest last year? Have you given thought to the fact that it is still in development and that they could be pumping out more actual content for WIS as we speak? My guess is no. My guess is that those of you who are claiming WIS is worthless and can contribute nothing to the Eve universe simply heard Torfi say "There will be no killing in stations upon release of WIS". However, I digress. The fact of the matter is, you have no idea what WIS will bring. Unless you are playing the final build, how can you possibly speculate as to the merits of WIS?
DaKoo UK1 Zero	Posted - 2009.08.01 13:53:00 - [68] Originally by: Tobruk Edited by: Tobruk on 31/05/2009 06:52:34 this game is like a 1940s russian tank the very best, innovative, groundbreaking but shot out so fast its crammed full of rough edges, bugs, imbalances, etc etc CCP needs to fix whats wrong with eve currently rather than introduce ambulation (which none of its current customer base paid to play) I Agree
Emperor Cheney Celebrity Sex Tape	Posted - 2009.08.01 21:38:00 - [69] no support. The biggest "are you kidding me" moment when I started playing this game wasn't the ridiculously counter-intuitive UI, or the lack of documentation. It was that I wasn't able to leave my ship. I almost stopped playing right there. I'm glad I didn't, but as soon as I found that out it seemed like the game was just fundamentally half-done. The game is great, but the whole universe feels so empty and pointless. Walking in stations will do a lot to create a sense of immersion. Also, the development of it is tied to another game, so it's going to happen anyway. So this entire whinethread is completely pointless.
Lord Kreios	Posted - 2009.08.01 22:49:00 - [70]
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2009.08.02 03:31:00 - [71] Originally by: Emperor Cheney no support. The biggest "are you kidding me" moment when I started playing this game wasn't the ridiculously counter-intuitive UI, or the lack of documentation. Imagine what could be done to the UI if it was the focus instead of WoW-esk "content" "expansions".
Harry Bowen	Posted - 2009.08.02 10:55:00 - [72] guy dont think about yourselves walking in stations may not appeal to some hardcore ppl but it will to ppl who are interested in the game. This is outerspace ppl have to live and etc so showing there is more to eve that just epic battle will bring a more submerging environment having jita as a real civilzation trading hub not just a gas staion with but a actual trading hub and etc.I mean if Walking in stattion is done properly it would bring tons of im sick of wow players here and maybe itll be a become a million plus player game cuz I mean just expanding on walking in stations it can be taken to a whole new height

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