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Troye
Gallente Intelligent Concepts Inc SUB ROSA ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2009.06.05 20:11:00 -
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I write this in the hope it will silence once and for all the deluded souls who think: "ambulation sux". No it doesnÆt suck! And heres some reasons why:
-Opens up new mini professions and paves the way for alot more, who knows whether we'll see FPS style missions or PvP in the future?
- Vastly increases EVE's appeal to a wider audience, WIS will attract more players besides EVE's current 25-35 male demographic. Having more females in our player community is always a good thing.
-Greater personalisation and customization of avatars, players will always feel a closer "connection" to a walking, talking personification of themselves than a point and click space ship.
-New form of player interaction and socialization, judging by the popularity of EVE's chat channels this will be a welcome change.
-Compared to the new Trinity graphics the old avatars are outdated and frankly, ugly. Its about time they got a decent update.
-Lag concerns: From what I understand docked players are actually transferred to a separate server so I imagine it would be the same for WIS to reduce lag?
-A goldmine for EVE's large Roleplay comunity, WIS further illustrates features from EVE's extensive backstory and offers more RP imersion. I'm still hoping I might be able to buy my very own Fedo pet one day
Personally I find it ridiculous that CCP Eris has had to defend the reasons for adding such an awesome new concept as WIS, its testament to the cynicism of EVEs player base that so many are willing to shoot this idea down.
Use your imagination guys, thereÆs more to eve than gate camping and killboards.
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SpaceSquirrels
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.05 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Troye I write this in the hope it will silence once and for all the deluded souls who think
And then I stopped right there. |
Akhmed TDT
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Posted - 2009.06.05 20:25:00 -
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There's enough threads on this already.... |
Troye
Gallente Intelligent Concepts Inc SUB ROSA ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2009.06.05 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Akhmed TDT There's enough threads on this already....
Theres loads of threads speculating or critising ambulation but none actualy focusing on its merits. _______________________________________ [a cool picture here] |
Keizo Tezuka
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Posted - 2009.06.05 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Akhmed TDT There's enough threads on this already....
There are, but most all of them are bogged down in personal attacks and garbage that is not relevant to the topic.
The point of threads like these are to increase awareness among the community, and in CCP, that a lot of players really do care about Ambulation. It's important that both sides speak their mind on the issue. Don't discount an entire thread just because you disagree. Post a well-reasoned counterargument instead.
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Agent Known
Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.06.05 20:48:00 -
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The bold, it burns.
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2009.06.05 21:17:00 -
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HUrgl, pewpew gud, walky bad.hh.
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moola
Band Of Frogs
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Posted - 2009.06.05 21:59:00 -
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Its bad because its using EVE player base to test a Gfx engine for an other game, its bad because its using the EVE players to test net code for a new game, its bad because its taking staff away from eve (even if they are burned with eve).
Planetary flight was pimped hard up to 2 years before WiS was uncloaked, id much rather have that than the fluff that WiS is.
Much love to Eris but tbh she cant defend WiS or CCP over this tbh. |
Menzisu Uiru
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Posted - 2009.06.05 21:59:00 -
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I just still really don't get what you'll actually DO other than walk around and play some silly free internet games.
Don't get me wrong, I think I'll enjoy WiS...at least at first. But what's there to keep me coming back? |
Guillame Herschel
Gallente Buffalo Soldiers
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Posted - 2009.06.05 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Troye I write this in the hope it will silence once and for all the deluded souls who think: "ambulation sux". No it doesnÆt suck! And heres some reasons why:
1. It doesn't exist and things that don't exist can't suck. QED.
NEXT! |
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Kir'ian
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.06.05 22:27:00 -
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I think your hope is misplaced. Its an extremely simple situation and totally understandable. Anything that doesn't support "your" style of game play is bad. It supposedly takes away resources that should be working on fixing everything that "you" see wrong with the way "you" want to play. Not only that, but a feature that doesn't benefit "you" might benefit someone else and in the spirit of PVP that is bad. Its very simple. Its very understandable. Its very silly. Welcome to EveOnline... The greatest MMO on Earth. =P |
Phaige
Minmatar Reaver Construction Services
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Posted - 2009.06.05 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: moola Its bad because its using EVE player base to test a Gfx engine for an other game, its bad because its using the EVE players to test net code for a new game, its bad because its taking staff away from eve (even if they are burned with eve). Planetary flight was pimped hard up to 2 years before WiS was uncloaked, id much rather have that than the fluff that WiS is.
Much love to Eris but tbh she cant defend WiS or CCP over this tbh.
Wow... if only someone had mentioned that the ppl working on Ambulation were not devs from other areas of EVE and that they were totally separate from the folks working on, oh, all of the issues ppl constantly ***** about on the fourms. Why, oh why hasn't a dev mentioned this to us? |
Jita Squatter
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Posted - 2009.06.05 22:33:00 -
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I for one, look forward to being able to exit my ship and stretch my legs... seeing as how i spend most of my time station spinning anyway.
Or just think how cool it would be to be able to play some texas hold'em while updating your market orders. |
Aurora IV
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Posted - 2009.06.05 22:33:00 -
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As long as I can run into a station and gun down some war targets, then im all for it. But if I can't, then this is gonna blow. People will have more things to do than spin ships while sititng in a station, and thats bad for how I play. |
Kytanos Termek
Caldari Darkstorm Command Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.06.05 22:48:00 -
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I look forward to ambulations release. Not only is it the wet dream of every roleplayer in EVE. But it also add's other things, Secwar's is just once such example. Imagin 5 or 10 things as interesting as that? I for one would love it.
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Martin Mckenna
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.06.05 22:49:00 -
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You havent even tryed it yet to shut the **** up. ---------------------
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Jin Nib
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Posted - 2009.06.05 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Aurora IV As long as I can run into a station and gun down some war targets, then im all for it. But if I can't, then this is gonna blow. People will have more things to do than spin ships while sititng in a station, and thats bad for how I play.
What would be fun is how the spaces could be controled in a station. Let's say your WT docks and goes for a walk about and you dock to gun him down. But he hides in a friendly bar and you either have to get some buddies to hit the place or camp him in lol.
I mean there is so much potential even without going into PvP I don't really see what there is to complain about. CCP makes a fair amount of profit and reinvests it into it's own game. Trust me, they are not lacking staff in one part simply cause they have staff working on another.
Also they could call it Ambulation: Way of the Ninja and just think how many more player EVE would get |
nahtoh
Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.06.06 04:05:00 -
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Edited by: nahtoh on 06/06/2009 04:06:24 Meh, what game was it that had walking in stations? Was intresting for about 15 mins or so then it just got really fecking annoying. Thankfully CCP have stated its a option that you don't need to ever use...thats the only thing about it I like about it.
No I just thought of another...I get to redo my char pic ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |
Solostrom
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Posted - 2009.06.06 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Troye
Originally by: Akhmed TDT There's enough threads on this already....
Theres loads of threads speculating or critising ambulation but none actualy focusing on its merits.
There are no merits... WIS was a play to the shareholders. Look we are going to spend a lot of $$$ writing this other game and a bunch of the $$$ can be re-used in this cash cow we have... thereby increasing shareholder value!!!
Personally I don't give a *#$% about vampires, ghosts, ghouls, and werewolves!
What I want is for internet spaceships playable without a 6yr old GUI filled with screw ups and a code base that doesn't lend itself to the last 3 patches!
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No Homo
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2009.06.06 04:11:00 -
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To all the people that think this poast sucks...
It does.
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Myra2007
Shafrak Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.06 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Troye
for all the deluded souls who think: "ambulation sux".
If its ok for you to have the opinion that ambulation will be great - why would it not be ok for someone to think it will suck?
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SpaceSquirrels
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.06 04:22:00 -
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They already stated you don't get to pew pew anyone.
Everyone says "look at the potential" however one very important entity has not stated the future plans of it....CCP. Yeah maybe there is potential, but if the never implement your ideas of potential then what?
Also looking over stuff I've only heard players state "gambling" as an add one with it...never CCP. (I could be wrong).
However lots of fluff bunnies really want it, so who am I to stand in the way of their EvE related happiness? (Though eve has the most amount of people in any MMO that want others to conform to their play style)
So if it comes out or not I could careless, but I still don't see the point in it. |
Phantom Slave
JUDGE DREAD Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.06 05:33:00 -
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I personally love the idea of WiS and cannot wait for it to be implemented. All the naysayers are somewhat understandably upset. CCP is using valuable time and resources to add something to the game that these people will never use (or at least never plan to).
But there is always something that CCP updates, changes, or adds that affects some people and not others. People who are opposed to this need to just understand that not everybody gets something from every addition to the game. Just look at how many carebears sit in hisec and mission run in their BS's and Marauders, and have no use for any covert ops, recons, cap ships, or even supercaps. Yet CCP added them despite some of the player base never using (or planning to use) them.
If you're excited about Ambulation then that's great because it's coming. If you're not, then I'm sorry you don't benefit from it but some of us will and that's what CCP is counting on.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.06.06 06:50:00 -
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We'll know - and care - whether it sucks or not when it hits SiSi |
Kazang
Gallente Wrecking Shots
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Posted - 2009.06.06 10:42:00 -
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You know what also sucks, your mom. |
Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.06.06 11:05:00 -
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The hardware being used to power ambulation could be better used reinforcing 0.0/lowsec on a more permanent term so that PVP doesn't turn the game into a slugfest at best without 24h notice. |
Discrodia
Gallente Blood Red Dawn
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Posted - 2009.06.06 11:26:00 -
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So, to all you who critize WiC, do you seriously think whining about Ambulation will stop them when they've nearly got it working, and even had a working prototype up at fanfest? Or do you just like the sound of your own voice because you can't find something valid to critize? |
Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.06.06 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Discrodia So, to all you who critize WiC, do you seriously think whining about Ambulation will stop them when they've nearly got it working, and even had a working prototype up at fanfest? Or do you just like the sound of your own voice because you can't find something valid to critize?
Do we expect them to stop? No. Do we hope? Yes. Will we still poke around with it and possibly like it *for what it is*? Possible. Do we still think that eve would be better expanded elsewhere? Of course. |
Zeonos
Amarr Duty.
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Posted - 2009.06.06 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: Zeonos on 06/06/2009 11:41:16
Originally by: Aurora IV As long as I can run into a station and gun down some war targets, then im all for it. But if I can't, then this is gonna blow. People will have more things to do than spin ships while sititng in a station, and thats bad for how I play.
well, look at it this way, now you can enter the station, and follow your targets around, maybe even play a game, instead of sitting semi afk outside the station and just waiting for them to come out.
Originally by: Blane Xero The hardware being used to power ambulation could be better used reinforcing 0.0/lowsec on a more permanent term so that PVP doesn't turn the game into a slugfest at best without 24h notice.
so all these improvements aren't enough?, i really think CCP do what they can to battle the fleet lag, they even rewrote most of their code to 64bit,and update their servers regularly. and it is getting better, but the fleets are also getting bigger... just try to play a game of wow, wintergraphs pvp, its maybe 40-80vs40-80 and you get 20seconds delay... and blizzard have quite a lot more costumers, and therefore resources to update their servers. and their developer team is properly bigger as well. |
Maria Kalista
Amarr Emerald Forest Securities
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Posted - 2009.06.06 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Zeonos well, look at it this way, now you can enter the station, and follow your targets around, maybe even play a game, instead of sitting semi afk outside the station and just waiting for them to come out.
*IF* that station has access to an WiS server/ shard (whatever).
What I read (but cannot find atm), and that is from long ago (so my info maybe outdated) is that at first not all stations will have an option to walk in. Which is not so strange if you look at how many stations there actually are. |
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