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Eipok Kruden
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Posted - 2009.06.08 09:56:00 -
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I'd love to read an EVE Online and Star Trek crossover. Seriously, I think it could work and it'd be rather interesting. I mean sure, it would require some changes to EVE Online like ship velocity and acceleration, but warp speed should stay the same, so should everything else. I mean think about it. In New Eden, there are thousands of stargates that link the many systems together as well as jump drives for the larger ships that are incapable of using said stargates. Since those two technologies pretty much cover travel twixt (hehe, I love middle english) systems (and much faster than Star Trek's warp drives, too), the warp drives of New Eden only need to be able to cover the distances within solar systems, which is practically nothing compared to the great distances between solar systems.
So yea, everything else would work except for the ship velocity. But, of course, the only reason the ships in EVE are so slow is because otherwise, it'd be near impossible to do or see much of anything. Traveling at .5c during combat isn't very practical, either.
So, what do you think? Would you want to read an EVE Online and Star Trek crossover? If enough people say yes, perhaps someone will write one cause I haven't found any anywhere and I don't know enough about Star Trek to write a good enough crossover. Plus, I find reading is much more fun than writing since if I write it, I already know how everything will turn out. There's no surprise. The only reason I ever write anything is because other people enjoy reading my work, but I've been rather selfish lately, so...yea. |
Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.06.08 10:36:00 -
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No I would not want to read a Crossover with Star Trek or any other Sci-Fi or Fantasy Franchise.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Eipok Kruden
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Posted - 2009.06.08 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon No I would not want to read a Crossover with Star Trek or any other Sci-Fi or Fantasy Franchise.
How come? I think it'd be pretty interesting. Seeing how Picard and friends (hehe) react when Q hurls across the known universe, tens of thousands of years into the future, and into an alternate dimension to show them how humans are supposed to act. Seriously, imagine how the crew of the Enterprise D would react to the harsh universe of EVE.
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Shariska
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Posted - 2009.06.08 13:23:00 -
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Yeah, toss them into a gatecamp only to have several large pulse lasers and blasters rip there frail little shield tank to hell, sounds like fun. |
Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.08 13:56:00 -
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Star Trek enters EVE. Technobabble ensues. Some moral about the human spirit and mutual co-operation in triumph over adversity is hammered out. They escape back to Trekverse and leave New Eden not even remotely affected by their temporary presence.
And yeah, let's face it, the shield tank on any Federation ship is A) passive and B) bad. And because they don't have money (post-capitalist society), nobody would be willing to sell them the secrets of shield boosting, shield hardening, stargates, jump drives, propulsion jamming, energy neutralization and armour tanking.
Not exactly gripping reading, is it? Bet somebody somewhere has done it though. |
Shariska
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Posted - 2009.06.08 14:10:00 -
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Edited by: Shariska on 08/06/2009 14:12:41 Enterprise enters
Amarr space:
Amarrian. Do you belive in god ? Enterprise. We belive in the bettering of huma.. Amarrian. DIE heretic scum!
Caldari space:
Caldarian. Do you have any isk for the repairs on your ship? Enterprise. Well.. not really, would you perha.. Caldarian. Eat my torps!
Minmatar space:
Enterprise. I am capt.. Minmatar. DIE!
Gallente space:
They never got that far...
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Gieron
Two toons mining
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Posted - 2009.06.08 15:07:00 -
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A big constant in all of Star Trek is that the galaxy is filled with intelligent humanoid non-human life. But in eve there are only humans. How do you intend to explain that?
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.08 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shariska Edited by: Shariska on 08/06/2009 14:12:41 Enterprise enters
Amarr space:
Amarrian. Do you belive in god ? Enterprise. We belive in the bettering of huma.. Amarrian. DIE heretic scum!
Caldari space:
Caldarian. Do you have any isk for the repairs on your ship? Enterprise. Well.. not really, would you perha.. Caldarian. Eat my torps!
Minmatar space:
Enterprise. I am capt.. Minmatar. DIE!
Gallente space:
They never got that far...
for Caldari space, wouldn't it go more like:
"I am captain Jean-Luc Picard of the Federation Starship..." "Sir, they've locked weapons and opened fire!" - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.06.08 16:42:00 -
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Or, more likely:
Jean-Luc Picard > "I am captain Jean-Luc Picard of the Federation Starship..." captain picarrd > "no i am" CPTPICARD > "lol" picard69 > "WTS manticore blueprint only 600k" Jita Citizen > "im muting all u losers" |
Esna Pitoojee
Amarr TalCorp Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.06.08 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: Shariska Edited by: Shariska on 08/06/2009 14:12:41 Enterprise enters
Amarr space:
Amarrian. Do you belive in god ? Enterprise. We belive in the bettering of huma.. Amarrian. DIE heretic scum!
Caldari space:
Caldarian. Do you have any isk for the repairs on your ship? Enterprise. Well.. not really, would you perha.. Caldarian. Eat my torps!
Minmatar space:
Enterprise. I am capt.. Minmatar. DIE!
Gallente space:
They never got that far...
for Caldari space, wouldn't it go more like:
"I am captain Jean-Luc Picard of the Federation Starship..." "Sir, they've locked weapons and opened fire!"
This, TBH. |
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Grek Forto
Malevolent Intentions
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Posted - 2009.06.08 20:31:00 -
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"Lasers?"
No but really, the following quote from Heavy Weapons Guy fits perfectly; You are so small, it's funny to me! |
Eipok Kruden
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Posted - 2009.06.08 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Or, more likely:
Jean-Luc Picard > "I am captain Jean-Luc Picard of the Federation Starship..." captain picarrd > "no i am" CPTPICARD > "lol" picard69 > "WTS manticore blueprint only 600k" Jita Citizen > "im muting all u losers"
Absolutely brilliant. That really would happen in the system channel, hehe.
Originally by: Stitcher
Originally by: Shariska Edited by: Shariska on 08/06/2009 14:12:41 Enterprise enters
Amarr space:
Amarrian. Do you belive in god ? Enterprise. We belive in the bettering of huma.. Amarrian. DIE heretic scum!
Caldari space:
Caldarian. Do you have any isk for the repairs on your ship? Enterprise. Well.. not really, would you perha.. Caldarian. Eat my torps!
Minmatar space:
Enterprise. I am capt.. Minmatar. DIE!
Gallente space:
They never got that far...
for Caldari space, wouldn't it go more like:
"I am captain Jean-Luc Picard of the Federation Starship..." "Sir, they've locked weapons and opened fire!"
I dunno, it would probably be more like this: Guristas Raven-Class Battleship: Guristas Comms Officer: "Sir, they're hailing us." Guristas Raven Captian: "Hm...I wander what a luxury yacht is doing all the way out here..." First Officer: "Does it really matter why it's here?" Guristas Raven Captain: "No, I guess it doesn't. Activate our NOS's and send a few torps their way. And get a boarding craft ready and loaded up."
UFP Starship Enterprise: Data: "Sir! They've locked onto us! They're draining our power directly from our reactor and, if these readings are correct, using it to power their own weapons systems! SHIELDS DOWN! They're sending a boarding craft!!" Picard: *head explodes*
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.06.08 21:54:00 -
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the shields the VOyager had in Endgame where pretty kickass, as well as those instagib borg cube photons.
but those would last 10 minutes in EVE before CCP downed the server for a patch because a CNR instagibbed a Titan.
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A Soporific
Caldari Elipse Inc. Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2009.06.08 22:01:00 -
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Imagine what would happen if they got dropped somewhere in Delve or Querious. They wouldn't last five minutes without a cloak. Hell, virtually no lone neut would last five minutes without a cloak no matter what the ship type.
Practically the only place that they wouldn't be insta-ganked would be if they landed in an empty system or NRDS 0.0. *** Wisdom. Justice. Moderation. |
Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.06.08 22:06:00 -
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truely fearsome would be that Klingon Bird of Prey from Startrek VI, in EVE we really dont have any counter to that even the enterprise had to hack a torpedo.
i just wish stealth bombers could do that in EVE though, fire while cloaked.
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Eipok Kruden
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Posted - 2009.06.08 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker truely fearsome would be that Klingon Bird of Prey from Startrek VI, in EVE we really dont have any counter to that even the enterprise had to hack a torpedo.
i just wish stealth bombers could do that in EVE though, fire while cloaked.
Well, it's my understanding that EVE cloaks are better than Star Trek cloaks (standard wide spectrum cloaks, of course, not phase cloaks). Instead of just visually masking the ship and using baffles to lower emissions, they actually bend space around the ship so that light and everything else bends around the ship. Besides, the only reason the enterprise could destroy the Bird of Prey was because they locked onto the Bird of Prey's tailpipe. The Klingons, Romulans, and Cardassians recognized that as a fatal flaw in the cloak design so they added baffles and reduced emissions. The modified torpedo wouldn't work on an EVE cloak or even any of the newer cloaks in Star Trek.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.06.09 02:57:00 -
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However the Ferengi would fit right in with the caldari, both races seek pure profits and will do anything to make more profits(there is a reason Caldari corps and Ferengi corps both tend to have their own fleets with the best ships money can buy). |
A Soporific
Caldari Elipse Inc. Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2009.06.09 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker However the Ferengi would fit right in with the caldari, both races seek pure profits and will do anything to make more profits(there is a reason Caldari corps and Ferengi corps both tend to have their own fleets with the best ships money can buy).
Who knows, we might even get naked chicks out of the deal, too. |
Eipok Kruden
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Posted - 2009.06.09 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker However the Ferengi would fit right in with the caldari, both races seek pure profits and will do anything to make more profits(there is a reason Caldari corps and Ferengi corps both tend to have their own fleets with the best ships money can buy).
Hehe, yea, the Ferengi would instantly fall in love with the Caldari Megacorporations. Hehe.
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.09 11:48:00 -
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Not really. The Ferengi were all about individual and personal profit. They were basically applied capitalist objectivism.
The Caldari are capitalist/collectivist, meaning they focus on the overall commercial success of their division, corporation, Megacorporation and the State as a whole versus the other empires before their own bank accounts.
Ferengi = Rule of Acquisition 144 (according to a website I found via Google): "There's nothing wrong with charity ... as long as it winds up in your pocket" Caldari = Motto of the Caldari Navy: "All for the good of the many"
So no, I don't think the Caldari would get along well with the Ferengi at all. The Ferengi view greed as a virtue, whereas the Caldari culture is entirely opposed to it, preferring altruism. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |
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Simon Coal
Gallente The Grass Spiders
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Posted - 2009.06.09 12:36:00 -
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Well, the Ferengi government is set up roughly like the State; it's largely intended to oversee trade and enforce contracts. Corporations have most of the power and most Ferengi work for them. They love profit, but most of them aren't rugged industrialists or anything. And they've been known to look out for each other first, over outsiders.
Overall though, yeah, the Ferengi are less collectivist than the Caldari. I imagine they'd come to some sort of mutually beneficial... oh dammit, I am not getting on this crossover train!
(I also have a hard time buying the Caldari as altruists, but I'm sure our biases are showing ) |
Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.09 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Alexeph Stoekai on 09/06/2009 14:00:49 Crossover fiction represents all that is bad in the world. -----
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.09 17:40:00 -
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okay okay, how about this then: a Night Elf falls through a wormhole and onto a Gallente station, where she blends in perfectly because the Gallente are all into body modification and stuff and they reckon she's just gone a bit crazy with the skin dye and ear implants? |
Eipok Kruden
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Posted - 2009.06.09 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher Not really. The Ferengi were all about individual and personal profit. They were basically applied capitalist objectivism.
The Caldari are capitalist/collectivist, meaning they focus on the overall commercial success of their division, corporation, Megacorporation and the State as a whole versus the other empires before their own bank accounts.
Ferengi = Rule of Acquisition 144 (according to a website I found via Google): "There's nothing wrong with charity ... as long as it winds up in your pocket" Caldari = Motto of the Caldari Navy: "All for the good of the many"
So no, I don't think the Caldari would get along well with the Ferengi at all. The Ferengi view greed as a virtue, whereas the Caldari culture is entirely opposed to it, preferring altruism.
Well, yes and no. The Caldari State as a whole is based on altruism, but the individual corporations are all run by greedy bastards like the Ferengi. Every high-ranking employee in any company in the Caldari State would do anything in their power to keep their position and their wealth. Anything. |
Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.06.09 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Eipok Kruden
Originally by: Stitcher Not really. The Ferengi were all about individual and personal profit. They were basically applied capitalist objectivism.
The Caldari are capitalist/collectivist, meaning they focus on the overall commercial success of their division, corporation, Megacorporation and the State as a whole versus the other empires before their own bank accounts.
Ferengi = Rule of Acquisition 144 (according to a website I found via Google): "There's nothing wrong with charity ... as long as it winds up in your pocket" Caldari = Motto of the Caldari Navy: "All for the good of the many"
So no, I don't think the Caldari would get along well with the Ferengi at all. The Ferengi view greed as a virtue, whereas the Caldari culture is entirely opposed to it, preferring altruism.
Well, yes and no. The Caldari State as a whole is based on altruism, but the individual corporations are all run by greedy bastards like the Ferengi. Every high-ranking employee in any company in the Caldari State would do anything in their power to keep their position and their wealth. Anything.
hense why some missions you are sent to eliminate a corp member here and there, and sometimes they have their own battleships.
then again step on enough toes getting to the top you better have a custom overhauled raven just to goto the Jita Bestbuy....
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.06.09 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher okay okay, how about this then: a Night Elf falls through a wormhole and onto a Gallente station, where she blends in perfectly because the Gallente are all into body modification and stuff and they reckon she's just gone a bit crazy with the skin dye and ear implants?
and depending on class she could be a real animal...
Galente might like a druid, if she could learn to appear as a slavehound would be the perfect way to infiltrate Amarr stations.
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Eipok Kruden
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Posted - 2009.06.09 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
Originally by: Eipok Kruden
Originally by: Stitcher Not really. The Ferengi were all about individual and personal profit. They were basically applied capitalist objectivism.
The Caldari are capitalist/collectivist, meaning they focus on the overall commercial success of their division, corporation, Megacorporation and the State as a whole versus the other empires before their own bank accounts.
Ferengi = Rule of Acquisition 144 (according to a website I found via Google): "There's nothing wrong with charity ... as long as it winds up in your pocket" Caldari = Motto of the Caldari Navy: "All for the good of the many"
So no, I don't think the Caldari would get along well with the Ferengi at all. The Ferengi view greed as a virtue, whereas the Caldari culture is entirely opposed to it, preferring altruism.
Well, yes and no. The Caldari State as a whole is based on altruism, but the individual corporations are all run by greedy bastards like the Ferengi. Every high-ranking employee in any company in the Caldari State would do anything in their power to keep their position and their wealth. Anything.
hense why some missions you are sent to eliminate a corp member here and there, and sometimes they have their own battleships.
then again step on enough toes getting to the top you better have a custom overhauled raven just to goto the Jita Bestbuy....
Or a CNR, of course. Or you could use a freighter and just hire a PMC for protection. Just make sure you have enough money to outbid your enemies or else torpedoes fired at you by the shiny mercs you hired for security will be the last thing you see before waking up in a CRU far, far away. |
Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.06.09 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher okay okay, how about this then: a Night Elf falls through a wormhole and onto a Gallente station, where she blends in perfectly because the Gallente are all into body modification and stuff and they reckon she's just gone a bit crazy with the skin dye and ear implants?
Sounds good. Does she wear a Chainmail Bikini and is into the kinky kind of Fanfic?
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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A Soporific
Caldari Elipse Inc. Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2009.06.09 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Eipok Kruden
Originally by: Stitcher Not really. The Ferengi were all about individual and personal profit. They were basically applied capitalist objectivism.
The Caldari are capitalist/collectivist, meaning they focus on the overall commercial success of their division, corporation, Megacorporation and the State as a whole versus the other empires before their own bank accounts.
Ferengi = Rule of Acquisition 144 (according to a website I found via Google): "There's nothing wrong with charity ... as long as it winds up in your pocket" Caldari = Motto of the Caldari Navy: "All for the good of the many"
So no, I don't think the Caldari would get along well with the Ferengi at all. The Ferengi view greed as a virtue, whereas the Caldari culture is entirely opposed to it, preferring altruism.
Well, yes and no. The Caldari State as a whole is based on altruism, but the individual corporations are all run by greedy bastards like the Ferengi. Every high-ranking employee in any company in the Caldari State would do anything in their power to keep their position and their wealth. Anything.
I sincerely doubt that. Remember, the only reason why corporations are in charge is that the Caldari see no reason to boot them. Remember that Caldari Society is relatively mobile both upwards and downwards, so while it would be more likely that high-ranking employees would be more likely to be greedy bastards each and every one is keenly aware that they are expendable and will be replaced (or otherwise disposed of) the moment they do something to hurt the company. *** Wisdom. Justice. Moderation. |
Mithfindel
Khanid Unionist Movement
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Posted - 2009.06.10 06:53:00 -
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I do actually remember an old comic about USS Enterprise ending up in New Eden. First encountered capsuleer asked first an autograph from Picard and then proceeded to gank the ship to see if it had any good loot.
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