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Thales Lothar
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Posted - 2009.06.08 16:26:00 -
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Is it possible to get the type of a site with probes by using only 1 or do you normally need more?
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Kva Plexcha
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Posted - 2009.06.08 17:49:00 -
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If you can use a small enough range on single probe you can get the sig % above 25 - 50% depending on the difficulty of the site. Some sites will tell you after 25% what their type is, some after 50%, some after 75%, depending on the degree of difficulty of the site. |
Flios Bror
Amarr Lone Star Joint Venture
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Posted - 2009.06.08 17:59:00 -
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I normally drop a 0.25AU probe directly next to a WH when I enter a W-system, so I can directly (ok in 10s) ignore a signature. It then shows the type as Wormhole. So, you need to be really lucky with your placement with your one probe to get the type, but it is possible. [None] |
Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.06.08 18:06:00 -
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When you get to 25% it'll give you the category of site (unknown, gravimetric, radar, etc). Once you get to 75% it'll give you the name of the site. |
Kva Plexcha
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Posted - 2009.06.08 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Gavin DeVries When you get to 25% it'll give you the category of site (unknown, gravimetric, radar, etc). Once you get to 75% it'll give you the name of the site.
Is this exactly true? Not flaming but curious - I find the Combat sites don't dispaly type until after 50-75%, or later. On the harder to find sites I will get a "Unknown" type until after 50%-75% then it will tell me Ladar, Grav, etc. I find generally its Ladar/Grav, Mag/Radar, then Combat, as far as which type generally comes up first. I believe the Ladar site "Ghost Nebula" has to have at least 50% to even display "Ladar" |
Jaroslav Hasek
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Posted - 2009.06.08 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kva Plexcha [ Is this exactly true? Not flaming but curious - I find the Combat sites don't dispaly type until after 50-75%, or later. On the harder to find sites I will get a "Unknown" type until after 50%-75% then it will tell me Ladar, Grav, etc. I find generally its Ladar/Grav, Mag/Radar, then Combat, as far as which type generally comes up first. I believe the Ladar site "Ghost Nebula" has to have at least 50% to even display "Ladar"
this has been my experience recently |
Gavin DeVries
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Posted - 2009.06.08 19:15:00 -
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It's been true for me, but I haven't done any low-sec exploring since the change so the rules may be different there. Everything I've found in hi-sec has given me the type once I got to 25% signature strength. ______________________________________________________ Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? |
Kva Plexcha
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Posted - 2009.06.08 19:25:00 -
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Yeah this is all low sec exploring and also I only track down the lowest % sigs.
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Vactet
Black Serpent Technologies Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.08 22:56:00 -
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This annoys me highly... Before this change in exploration you could drop one probe (MultiSpec) and immediately tell what was in the system. Not really the quantity of different types but you could tell if a certain type was there. Personally I like going after Radar/Mag sites and tend to ignore the Combat sites and grav sites. Now there is no way to check out what a system has to offer. This irritates me to no end. Having to get a hit to 30-40-50% to get the Type has killed exploration for me. I did exploration to relax (hence..Radar/Mag focus) and not deal with all of the BS of life or the other parts of eve that irritate me. Don't care bout the name, but the TYPE yeesh.
Granted...if the filter worked..it would be nice. If i could just click "radar" as all I cared about then it would be different. Id still have to spend the time tracking them down but I wouldnt have just wasted 10-20 minutes tracking down what turned out to be a combat or grav site or wormhole.
Now..I realize I could be completely missing out on something here. I have heard something about the Deep Space Probe offering similar functionality to the MultiSpec. If that's so..more details please. |
Kva Plexcha
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Posted - 2009.06.08 23:21:00 -
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Not really sure about anyone else, and I hate to give away some secrets that might give me a bit of an advantage, but .....
I usually do Combat, then Radar/Mag. In the region I scan, I can sort thru probably 15-20 systems an hour looking for a specific type of Combat plex I like to run (I like its loot drop). During this search I can probably bookmark 10 Radar and 6 Mag sites on average, in addition to finding the plex I want. This is in roughly 1 hour, in lowsec/nullsec, and it is tracking down the hardest sites. My scan skills are average, I would say. If you really understand how the new probing system works, how the respawn/despawn and even placement of plexes work, and you can interpret the scan results well, you can really do quite well with whatever specific type you prefer.
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Vactet
Black Serpent Technologies Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.08 23:37:00 -
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Urge to pick your brain..I mean eat it..I mean..err
Hmm...maybe I should spend some more time working on it and pick up on such things. I mean I like the changes to exploration overall as it now takes some basic math understanding to be successful but the whole MultiSpec thing bugs me to no end.
Simply put, I hate wasting time and after an hour finding out that what I am looking for is not present really ticks me off.
I just want a way to figure out if what I want it even present and then worry about spending time. (Yes..I am whining. No I dont want some cheese)
I remember pre changes to exploration I spend 3 hours tracking down a Radar site in high sec....turned out to be VERY profitable and was apparently one of the harder ones to find not to mention being VERY rare.
I have no problem putting forth the effort, but I hate putting forth the effort before I know there is a point in doing so. Otherwise I could spend that effort elsewhere. |
Nefrin Maldoes
Minmatar Outer Rim Survey and Salvage
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Posted - 2009.06.09 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Vactet Now..I realize I could be completely missing out on something here. I have heard something about the Deep Space Probe offering similar functionality to the MultiSpec. If that's so..more details please.
You aren't missing too much. I had Astrometrics V trained prior to the change for the boost, so I could use Deep Space Probes after change.
Deep space probes have a much larger scan range (up to 256AU) and a minimum scan range of 2 or 4 AU, can't quite recall, as I switch out to Cores before I get to this point.
The upside, you can scan most systems from edge to edge with one probe and see what's there (Cosmic Anomalies, Cosmic Signatures, Structures, Ships, etc). The downside, is you only get the "Cosmic Signature" listing, and not what the site actually is, you still have to get closer in to figure out type, and even on the smallest setting for Deep Space probes, you won't get an ID, the scan strength is too low.
I wish the filtering system still worked right, because if I turn on a filter to show only cosmic signatures (that haven't been identified as unknown, grav, etc) then all my scan results disappear (even though they are still labeled as cosmic signature). --------------- He who stumbles around in the dark with a stick is blind. But he who sticks out in darkness is . . . fluorescent! |
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