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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Gallente H A V O C
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Posted - 2009.06.11 10:15:00 -
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Hi guys,
Ive had an extended hiatus from eve due to RL issues (around 2mths or so) and have just looked into getting my alts back online via GTCs.
To my dismay the price of gtcs are around 800mil+ whilst less then a month or so ago they were around the 600mil mark. Any reason for this increase beyond a generic supply/demand reply?
Im just wondering if this has been a short term manipulation that can be waited out or if there has been a change in some mechanic or OOG occurance that has caused a spike in demand or decrease in supply for some reason.
Cheers,
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Sir SmellyFart
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.11 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik Hi guys,
Ive had an extended hiatus from eve due to RL issues (around 2mths or so) and have just looked into getting my alts back online via GTCs.
To my dismay the price of gtcs are around 800mil+ whilst less then a month or so ago they were around the 600mil mark. Any reason for this increase beyond a generic supply/demand reply?
Im just wondering if this has been a short term manipulation that can be waited out or if there has been a change in some mechanic or OOG occurance that has caused a spike in demand or decrease in supply for some reason.
Cheers,
The GTC are just following the ingame PLEX, which is easy to manipulate (if you have the wallet for it). And they are at the 425/450 pricepoint today. My guess is the increase will continue or at the very best prices will plateau at this level for some time. 300 million for 30 days of gametime is just to cheap, any serious industry/trading/mission toon can earn that without too much work.
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PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Gallente H A V O C
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Posted - 2009.06.11 10:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sir SmellyFart
Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik Hi guys,
Ive had an extended hiatus from eve due to RL issues (around 2mths or so) and have just looked into getting my alts back online via GTCs.
To my dismay the price of gtcs are around 800mil+ whilst less then a month or so ago they were around the 600mil mark. Any reason for this increase beyond a generic supply/demand reply?
Im just wondering if this has been a short term manipulation that can be waited out or if there has been a change in some mechanic or OOG occurance that has caused a spike in demand or decrease in supply for some reason.
Cheers,
The GTC are just following the ingame PLEX, which is easy to manipulate (if you have the wallet for it). And they are at the 425/450 pricepoint today. My guess is the increase will continue or at the very best prices will plateau at this level for some time. 300 million for 30 days of gametime is just to cheap, any serious industry/trading/mission toon can earn that without too much work.
Thanks for the info. I was suspecting it might have been from the plex increase, which appears to have been a large manipulation that is taking the market a while to re adjust to. Ive never really dabbled greatly in plex or gtcs so I cant really comment with any authority as to the longevity of a manipulation like this.
As for the 300mil/mth industrial alt, I would certainly hope to be obtaining this with the very alt I need to purchase GTCs for, but tbh, im not confident I have the time anymore to do so. 300mil/mth isnt really a benchmark as it doesnt take into account how much time/effort is needed for adjusting market orders, doing research into different items, fueling pos, or even simply mining. Personally Im thinking my time will be better spent by earning RL isk now then spending the time grinding online.
In saying that I guess im a little conflicted atm as to where I want the plex prices to go in game! |
Fumen
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Posted - 2009.06.11 11:00:00 -
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Edited by: Fumen on 11/06/2009 11:01:51 The really sad part: a 30 day GTC was only 170-190 million a year ago....
Why sad? guess it's sad cause that's 150 more I had to play with.... 150 more i could have used to keep yet another account running.... (well, 200 now). Altaholic is sad altaholic without at least 4 accounts going.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.06.11 11:03:00 -
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Reasons for GTC Price Spike:
1: Ingame PLEX's 2: Fanfest 2009 3: ???? 4: Because of falcon
Quote:
"Lecherito on Market Discussion: Though I have to go down on the record as saying that I'm convinced the majority of the MD community is ******ed" |
Kalintos Tyl
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.11 11:08:00 -
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400mln /30 days ~~ 13mln/day <- hardly 1 lvl 4 mission a day
60D GTC - shattared link |
Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.06.11 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kalintos Tyl 400mln /30 days ~~ 13mln/day <- hardly 1 lvl 4 mission a day
dont understand your calculation..
so 400 minutes is 30 days? ie. 13 minutes per day ie. hardly a lvl 4 mission. in my understanding completing a lvl 4 mission takes around 30 minutes...
Quote:
"Lecherito on Market Discussion: Though I have to go down on the record as saying that I'm convinced the majority of the MD community is ******ed" |
Sir SmellyFart
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.11 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kalintos Tyl 400mln /30 days ~~ 13mln/day <- hardly 1 lvl 4 mission a day
Like I said: it's too easy for anyone with the skills and time to pay 300 million a month. BTW, prices are now more in the line of 425 buy/450 sell.
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Kalintos Tyl
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.11 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama
Originally by: Kalintos Tyl 400mln /30 days ~~ 13mln/day <- hardly 1 lvl 4 mission a day
dont understand your calculation..
so 400 minutes is 30 days? ie. 13 minutes per day ie. hardly a lvl 4 mission. in my understanding completing a lvl 4 mission takes around 30 minutes...
400mln / 30 days = 13mln to farm per day for plex 13mln is crap lvl 4 mission which is done in 20 minutes so you need to do 1 crap lvl 4 everyday to pay that 400mln plex
60D GTC - shattared link |
Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
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Posted - 2009.06.11 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama
Originally by: Kalintos Tyl 400mln /30 days ~~ 13mln/day <- hardly 1 lvl 4 mission a day
dont understand your calculation..
so 400 minutes is 30 days? ie. 13 minutes per day ie. hardly a lvl 4 mission. in my understanding completing a lvl 4 mission takes around 30 minutes...
That's 13 mLn, not mIn. Go get some coffee.
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Bloody Rabbit
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Posted - 2009.06.11 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama Reasons for GTC Price Spike:
1: Ingame PLEX's 2: Fanfest 2009 3: ???? 4: Because of falcon
5: Less people with disposable income???
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Mystafyre
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.11 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kalintos Tyl
Originally by: Ji Sama
Originally by: Kalintos Tyl 400mln /30 days ~~ 13mln/day <- hardly 1 lvl 4 mission a day
dont understand your calculation..
so 400 minutes is 30 days? ie. 13 minutes per day ie. hardly a lvl 4 mission. in my understanding completing a lvl 4 mission takes around 30 minutes...
400mln / 30 days = 13mln to farm per day for plex 13mln is crap lvl 4 mission which is done in 20 minutes so you need to do 1 crap lvl 4 everyday to pay that 400mln plex
Someone sticky this
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Sir SmellyFart
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.11 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
Originally by: Ji Sama Reasons for GTC Price Spike:
1: Ingame PLEX's 2: Fanfest 2009 3: ???? 4: Because of falcon
5: Less people with disposable income???
Yes, they all got fired and now have all the time in the world to grind their own isk
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.06.11 12:40:00 -
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RL economic crisis is the main reason.
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Raven Pox
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Posted - 2009.06.11 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama Reasons for GTC Price Spike:
1: Ingame PLEX's 2: Fanfest 2009 3: ???? 4: Because of falcon
8/10. You win this post.
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Loaby
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Posted - 2009.06.11 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama Reasons for GTC Price Spike:
1: Ingame PLEX's 2: Fanfest 2009 3: ???? 4: Because of falcon
explain nr.2, please
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.06.11 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Loaby
Originally by: Ji Sama 2: Fanfest 2009
explain nr.2, please
Linkage There you go.
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Kephael
Caldari Cursed Souls Vort3x.
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Posted - 2009.06.11 17:01:00 -
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It's because of fanfest. |
Aylara
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Posted - 2009.06.11 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Aylara on 11/06/2009 22:04:28
Originally by: Ji Sama Reasons for GTC Price Spike:
1: Ingame PLEX's 2: Fanfest 2009 3: ???? 4: Because of falcon
0: T3 ships not selling because price is too high -> developers sad because all the work put in development for almost nothing -> scratch head thinking how to increase price of plexes so people can afford T3 -> point 2
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.06.11 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Bloody Rabbit
Originally by: Ji Sama Reasons for GTC Price Spike:
1: Ingame PLEX's 2: Fanfest 2009 3: ???? 4: Because of falcon
5: Less people with disposable income???
this tbh ^^
also...
Quote:
"Lecherito on Market Discussion: Though I have to go down on the record as saying that I'm convinced the majority of the MD community is ******ed" |
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