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Scott Ryder
Amarr Suns Of Korhal
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Posted - 2009.06.12 10:52:00 -
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Edited by: Scott Ryder on 12/06/2009 10:53:31 Hello. I currently copy bpos in empire remotely. All my assets and values are in blueprints. I have been doing this for quite some time. I request isk for 2 more retriever bpos as I notice more pressure from my regular buyers.
Loan requested: 2200 million isk Duration: 4 Weeks Interest: 10 percent (total payback 2420 million isk) Payback: 1 transfer of 2420 million isk before 31 days have passed. For what I need the money: bpos
I can offer no collateral, I am willing to be audited (3 accounts) but not at my cost. Post Any questions here and I will do my best to answer them.
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Scott Ryder
Amarr Suns Of Korhal
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Posted - 2009.06.12 10:53:00 -
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reserved |
Mad Mackem
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.06.12 10:55:00 -
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Die |
Scott Ryder
Amarr Suns Of Korhal
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Posted - 2009.06.12 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Mad Mackem Die
Id ask people to please avoid trolling. You would get further beeing constructive |
Professor Leech
Transmetropolitan
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Posted - 2009.06.12 11:01:00 -
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I require a 2.1b loan for 4 weeks and I'll pay 12% interest. |
Everybruce
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Posted - 2009.06.12 11:04:00 -
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herro kitty would like to confirm this is a legitimate deal |
Scott Ryder
Amarr Suns Of Korhal
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Posted - 2009.06.12 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Everybruce herro kitty would like to confirm this is a legitimate deal
Herro Bruce :) I actually would, but I could not accept isk from you as I know its scammed. My plan is simply to add 2 more retriever bpos. And if audited my ongoing venture could be proven. Ive lendt isk previusly and if needed I could ask those persons to come forward.
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Professor Leech
Transmetropolitan
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Posted - 2009.06.12 11:10:00 -
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Your numbers don't stack up. However, my plan is bulletproof.
Originally by: Crawe DeRaven this thread is obviously going places
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Mad Mackem
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.06.12 11:15:00 -
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Hi, I need to borrow 95 billion isk to build an Avatar, will return the investment when I sell the ship.
I once borrowed my mates lawnmower once and could get him to post here if required.
Thanks
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Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys Zzz
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Posted - 2009.06.12 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Scott Ryder I currently copy bpos in empire remotely. All my assets and values are in blueprints.
Originally by: Scott Ryder I request isk for 2 more retriever bpos
Looks like the perfect lockdown as collateral case to me.
Originally by: Scott Ryder I can offer no collateral
Why not? |
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.06.12 11:29:00 -
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you would need to get the bpo's locked down with a 3rd party if you want to do this... |
Scott Ryder
Amarr Suns Of Korhal
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Posted - 2009.06.12 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Bobby
Originally by: Scott Ryder I currently copy bpos in empire remotely. All my assets and values are in blueprints.
Originally by: Scott Ryder I request isk for 2 more retriever bpos
Looks like the perfect lockdown as collateral case to me.
Originally by: Scott Ryder I can offer no collateral
Why not?
As my assets are basicly in use. I currently only own bpos + a couple ships im flying. I would prefer it if I could avoid locking the bpos down in a 3rd party with the reason im running my own labs and It would be more work unless the third party is very near to my location. If it is the last resort I might do it. Answers Ji Samas question aswell. I was just hoping 2.2 billion isk was small enough amount to lend without having to provide collateral. |
Admiral IceBlock
Caldari Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2009.06.12 11:42:00 -
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Too many jews around Scott. I would invest if I had any spare ISK. Unfortunately I do not. |
Professor Leech
Transmetropolitan
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Posted - 2009.06.12 11:42:00 -
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You have confirmed that this is perfect for a bpo lockdown. I await confirmation that the bpos are locked down. |
Romanov DeBeers
Gallente Small Gods
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Posted - 2009.06.12 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Romanov DeBeers on 12/06/2009 11:48:04 If all your assets are in BPOs then what happened to the 1.6B (40 units at 40m) you made from this sale a few days ago.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1094015/page/1#6
A quick look in the sales forum indicates that you also offered 15B for a G-Vexor last month.
Im guessing a character of your age who deals with multiple billions of BPOs and goods easily has goods that could be placed up as collateral.
Is the post in the C&P thread and kill a hulk really generating that much of an increased demand? Compared to say the GoonJihad of last year? Your post in that thread indicated that you already have multiple BPOs.
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Scott Ryder
Amarr Suns Of Korhal
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Posted - 2009.06.12 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Scott Ryder on 12/06/2009 11:54:03
Originally by: Romanov DeBeers If all your assets are in BPOs then what happened to the 1.6B (40 units at 40m) you made from this sale a few days ago.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1094015/page/1#6
A quick look in the sales forum indicates that you also offered 15B for a G-Vexor last month.
Im guessing a character of your age who deals with multiple billions of BPOs and goods easily has goods that could be placed up as collateral.
Is the post in the C&P thread and kill a hulk really generating that much of an increased demand? Compared to say the GoonJihad of last year? Your post in that thread indicated that you already have multiple BPOs.
I repaid a loan to a friend I havent noticed much on that front yet, Covetor bpc sell as usuall. Lately the increase has been in retriever bpcs, wich i only own 2 bpos of atm.
Originally by: Admiral IceBlock Too many jews around Scott. I would invest if I had any spare ISK. Unfortunately I do not.
I dont mind people beeing careful. And thanks ^^
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Jane Retail
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Posted - 2009.06.12 12:08:00 -
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Sure,
why not throw 2,2b at someone, who at least does not pay for an audit ?
New IPO-Suggestion: I want to be your ISK-Sink. Just deposit any money you want to get lost on my character and watch the money fade away.
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Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys Zzz
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Posted - 2009.06.12 12:14:00 -
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How about this:
The 2200m goes to me, I buy the BPOs, I copy the BPOs, I povide the copies to you, you sell the copies.
After one month, you pay the 2420m to me in exchange for the BPOs, I distribute the 2420m to your investors.
We would have to discuss the schedule of copying and my cut for services rendered, obviously. |
Scott Ryder
Amarr Suns Of Korhal
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Posted - 2009.06.12 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: Scott Ryder on 12/06/2009 12:26:11
Originally by: Bad Bobby How about this:
The 2200m goes to me, I buy the BPOs, I copy the BPOs, I povide the copies to you, you sell the copies.
After one month, you pay the 2420m to me in exchange for the BPOs, I distribute the 2420m to your investors.
We would have to discuss the schedule of copying and my cut for services rendered, obviously.
Nm, i misread. Anyways. I dont know who you are. So for now i would have to decline the offer.
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Bad Bobby
Ugly Toys Zzz
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Posted - 2009.06.12 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Scott Ryder Edited by: Scott Ryder on 12/06/2009 12:26:11
Originally by: Bad Bobby How about this:
The 2200m goes to me, I buy the BPOs, I copy the BPOs, I povide the copies to you, you sell the copies.
After one month, you pay the 2420m to me in exchange for the BPOs, I distribute the 2420m to your investors.
We would have to discuss the schedule of copying and my cut for services rendered, obviously.
Nm, i misread. Anyways. I dont know who you are. So for now i would have to decline the offer.
Understood. I would however recommend that you ask your potential investors what they think, since it's their isk that would be at stake rather than your own.
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Stardust CEO
Stardust Manufacturing
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Posted - 2009.06.12 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Bobby How about this:
The 2200m goes to me, I buy the BPOs, I copy the BPOs, I povide the copies to you, you sell the copies.
After one month, you pay the 2420m to me in exchange for the BPOs, I distribute the 2420m to your investors.
We would have to discuss the schedule of copying and my cut for services rendered, obviously.
Would invest.
Originally by: Scott Ryder Edited by: Scott Ryder on 12/06/2009 10:53:31 Hello. I currently copy bpos in empire remotely. All my assets and values are in blueprints. I have been doing this for quite some time. I request isk for 2 more retriever bpos as I notice more pressure from my regular buyers.
Loan requested: 2200 million isk Duration: 4 Weeks Interest: 10 percent (total payback 2420 million isk) Payback: 1 transfer of 2420 million isk before 31 days have passed. For what I need the money: bpos
I can offer no collateral, I am willing to be audited (3 accounts) but not at my cost. Post Any questions here and I will do my best to answer them.
Edit: edited subject
Would not invest. |
Scott Ryder
Amarr Suns Of Korhal
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Stardust CEO
Originally by: Bad Bobby How about this:
The 2200m goes to me, I buy the BPOs, I copy the BPOs, I povide the copies to you, you sell the copies.
After one month, you pay the 2420m to me in exchange for the BPOs, I distribute the 2420m to your investors.
We would have to discuss the schedule of copying and my cut for services rendered, obviously.
Would invest.
Originally by: Scott Ryder Edited by: Scott Ryder on 12/06/2009 10:53:31 Hello. I currently copy bpos in empire remotely. All my assets and values are in blueprints. I have been doing this for quite some time. I request isk for 2 more retriever bpos as I notice more pressure from my regular buyers.
Loan requested: 2200 million isk Duration: 4 Weeks Interest: 10 percent (total payback 2420 million isk) Payback: 1 transfer of 2420 million isk before 31 days have passed. For what I need the money: bpos
I can offer no collateral, I am willing to be audited (3 accounts) but not at my cost. Post Any questions here and I will do my best to answer them.
Edit: edited subject
Would not invest.
Point made, but its ok. Im only looking for one investor. Im fine with you not investing. |
Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:01:00 -
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would trust bobby (and already am with 5B ISK) would not trust ryder, unless this was locked down... im just one investor aswell. so no worries.. |
Scott Ryder
Amarr Suns Of Korhal
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama would trust bobby (and already am with 5B ISK) would not trust ryder, unless this was locked down... im just one investor aswell. so no worries..
Ok for me to improve my plan. I must ask the following. What makes me not trustable? Any scamming history? Any ipos or loans going bad? Id say my name (for me) is worth way more then 2.2 bill isk, Id say myself that that my sleets are pretty clean.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:19:00 -
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Before you start asking for money, try documenting yourself about those (ie BB) who are offering their big time trusted services to you to help you. You are not really making him a favour, it's the contrary.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries Sex Drugs And Rock'N'Roll
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Scott Ryder
Originally by: Ji Sama would trust bobby (and already am with 5B ISK) would not trust ryder, unless this was locked down... im just one investor aswell. so no worries..
Ok for me to improve my plan. I must ask the following. What makes me not trustable? Any scamming history? Any ipos or loans going bad? Id say my name (for me) is worth way more then 2.2 bill isk, Id say myself that that my sleets are pretty clean.
im just saying i want securities, guarantees or collateral.... i dont trust you because i dont know you, and the things i do know, is apparently not enough!
Quote:
"Lecherito on Market Discussion: Though I have to go down on the record as saying that I'm convinced the majority of the MD community is ******ed" |
Takemikazuki
Celrydreahad Finance
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Scott Ryder
Originally by: Ji Sama would trust bobby (and already am with 5B ISK) would not trust ryder, unless this was locked down... im just one investor aswell. so no worries..
Ok for me to improve my plan. I must ask the following. What makes me not trustable? Any scamming history? Any ipos or loans going bad? Id say my name (for me) is worth way more then 2.2 bill isk, Id say myself that that my sleets are pretty clean.
Well, your attitude have a taint of unprofessionalism. Too cheap to pay for an audit. Unwillingness to provide collateral etc.
2.2 isn't much, but that is not the issue.
The question is not what makes you untrustable. Reverse that: what makes you trustable?
Trust is the most valuable commodity and it does not exsist by default. Agreeing to provide collateral would go a long way in presenting a reassuring attitude towards potential investors.
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Bonhomme Carnaval
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:34:00 -
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Summary of this thread :
Originally by: Romanov DeBeers Edited by: Romanov DeBeers on 12/06/2009 11:48:04 If all your assets are in BPOs then what happened to the 1.6B (40 units at 40m) you made from this sale a few days ago.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1094015/page/1#6
A quick look in the sales forum indicates that you also offered 15B for a G-Vexor last month.
Originally by: Scott Ryder Edited by: Scott Ryder on 12/06/2009 10:53:31 I can offer no collateral, I am willing to be audited (3 accounts) but not at my cost.
Originally by: Scott Ryder Edited by: Scott Ryder on 12/06/2009 12:26:11
Originally by: Bad Bobby How about this:
The 2200m goes to me, I buy the BPOs, I copy the BPOs, I povide the copies to you, you sell the copies.
After one month, you pay the 2420m to me in exchange for the BPOs, I distribute the 2420m to your investors.
We would have to discuss the schedule of copying and my cut for services rendered, obviously.
Nm, i misread. Anyways. I dont know who you are. So for now i would have to decline the offer.
Originally by: Scott Ryder
Originally by: Stardust CEO
Originally by: Bad Bobby [Bad Bobby's offer]
Would invest.
Originally by: Scott Ryder [Scott Ryder's OP offer]
Would not invest.
Point made, but its ok. Im only looking for one investor. Im fine with you not investing.
/me plants a few red flags. |
Scott Ryder
Amarr Suns Of Korhal
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Takemikazuki
Originally by: Scott Ryder
Originally by: Ji Sama would trust bobby (and already am with 5B ISK) would not trust ryder, unless this was locked down... im just one investor aswell. so no worries..
Ok for me to improve my plan. I must ask the following. What makes me not trustable? Any scamming history? Any ipos or loans going bad? Id say my name (for me) is worth way more then 2.2 bill isk, Id say myself that that my sleets are pretty clean.
Well, your attitude have a taint of unprofessionalism. Too cheap to pay for an audit. Unwillingness to provide collateral etc.
2.2 isn't much, but that is not the issue.
The question is not what makes you untrustable. Reverse that: what makes you trustable?
Trust is the most valuable commodity and it does not exsist by default. Agreeing to provide collateral would go a long way in presenting a reassuring attitude towards potential investors.
Well I will admit. I havent handled public isk or written formal loan requests on the forums previusly. So yes I might sound a bit unprofesial. Im not very good with the masses (Im still working on that) I could provide collateral, but not enough to secure the entire loan as it stands now. I am still working on that aswell. This is put on hold till I have the needed amount of assets I dont need for collateral or til a private investor that knows me and trusts me invests in this.
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