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PJRiddick
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Posted - 2009.06.12 12:50:00 -
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Dear CCP I am making this in the public forums to discuss what can be done with the macros that are in EVE,..all over eve to be exact. The other night i was out trying t mine when 3 or 4 macros come in and to the point they were having macro wars,....kind of funny actually,..they were all fighting over the roids,...all there miners shooting allthe roids and circleing the roids,....I jsut left,..that was all i could do, bu tthats not the point here. These macros seem to be in game all over EVE and CCP,..you dont seem to do anything about it. Ive reported it before,...but nothing seems to be done about it, and its getting worse. This just realy takes away from those of us that want to play the game as it is intended to be played. Those that macro seem to reep the benifits of such a program that is for sure, but here i sit, trying to make good but the macros have beet me to it. Is there anything tha tyou can do about this? I do have a solution CCP,...but you wont like it, but it is a solution. before i start poping macros, ill email one of you guys with my intent, and ill try to contact the macro and give him like 30 minutes to respond. If i dont here anything from him after 30 minutes then he gets poped. of course ill get my ship concorded,...but ,..if i talke all the precautions to contact the macro,...Ill be reimbursed my ship,...
Its a suggestion CCP,...and a fair one to boot. macors are not allowed in the game. do something about it. These macros are ruining the game almost as bad as the POS deal a while back.
I awate for your reply on this matter.
-=+>xXx<+=- Rid**** |
Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 12:52:00 -
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and how do you prove that they are using macro's
that is the only problem
subject has already been and gone
if you suspect a macro petition it and CCP will look into it
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.06.12 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: Blane Xero on 12/06/2009 12:55:13 Can you prove without a second glance that the suspected person is not just someone mining on an alt account while doing something else on another and hence not paying attention to the miner beyond the tab and back to check the ore? Proof requires more than "But he's there whenever i'm there" (Well, eh, so are you) and "But his name is skjfgsdkjfg"
Even better, can you prove it is not a sweatshop farmer? In this case nobody does anything wrong within the game until the selling/aiding of selling isk. |
Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 12:55:00 -
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if they were fighting each other, they weren't macros.
in after armoured. |
Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.06.12 12:56:00 -
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How would it be different from a corp of miners with active pilots that came into 'your' belt and started to mine 'your' roids? |
Kaylani Walli
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:06:00 -
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Some replies on topics such as this are rubbish..."Duh...how do you know it's a macro?...you're a racist..." What a bunch of ignorant gits! There are macros in use all over the stinkin' ice fields at any given time! Hell, there are multiple macro crews in Outuni right now.
I agree with the OP! CCP, please do something about it!
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Sir Muffoon
Backdoor Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:11:00 -
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"CONCORD, seeing an increased amount of highsec smuggling and other nefarious things among highsec people, have officially decided to take action. From now on, the use of strip miners and the issuing of "level 4" class missions will be restricted to those pod pilots who are working within a corporation.
We view this is as the simplest solution to the problems seen.
o/" |
Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Muffoon "CONCORD, seeing an increased amount of highsec smuggling and other nefarious things among highsec people, have officially decided to take action. From now on, the use of strip miners and the issuing of "level 4" class missions will be restricted to those pod pilots who are working within a corporation.
We view this is as the simplest solution to the problems seen.
o/"
Make CEO alt on each of the 'macro' accounts, give out no roles. Have miners in corp and if wardecced switch instantly to other corp. 5 acccounts = 5 corp, good luck with the wardec fee.
Self-proclaimed idiot
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Sir Muffoon
Backdoor Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim
Make CEO alt on each of the 'macro' accounts, give out no roles. Have miners in corp and if wardecced switch instantly to other corp. 5 acccounts = 5 corp, good luck with the wardec fee.
I saw that happening, but seeing as though it's an exploit at the moment after a few months CCP might actually take action.
Atleast it's better than the situation at the moment. |
Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:22:00 -
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Leaving a corp is an exploit? Are you sure on that, do you have factual proof (I'm honestly interested, not being sarcastic).
AFAIK some DEV stated a while ago that leaving a corp for whatever reason is a valid tactic.
Self-proclaimed idiot
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim
Originally by: Sir Muffoon "CONCORD, seeing an increased amount of highsec smuggling and other nefarious things among highsec people, have officially decided to take action. From now on, the use of strip miners and the issuing of "level 4" class missions will be restricted to those pod pilots who are working within a corporation.
We view this is as the simplest solution to the problems seen.
o/"
Make CEO alt on each of the 'macro' accounts, give out no roles. Have miners in corp and if wardecced switch instantly to other corp. 5 acccounts = 5 corp, good luck with the wardec fee.
Make it so that if you are in a corp that is at war and leave before the first two weeks, and then join another corp at war with the same corp you are locked into that war for the next 2 weeks. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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RedSplat
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim Leaving a corp is an exploit? Are you sure on that, do you have factual proof (I'm honestly interested, not being sarcastic).
AFAIK some DEV stated a while ago that leaving a corp for whatever reason is a valid tactic.
Continuous 'Corp Hopping' to avoid wardecs is classed as an exploit.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Sir Muffoon
Backdoor Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:33:00 -
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Edited by: Sir Muffoon on 12/06/2009 13:34:23
Originally by: Tzar'rim Leaving a corp is an exploit? Are you sure on that, do you have factual proof (I'm honestly interested, not being sarcastic).
AFAIK some DEV stated a while ago that leaving a corp for whatever reason is a valid tactic.
I thought I saw a dev say it was an exploit to leave a corp for the reason to avoid a wardec continuously. One sec.
fakeedit; after looking, turns out the exploit I read about only applies to people who joined corps, attacked someone and then left straight after. Funny that.
Well, it's still better than the current situation. Some macros might forget to leave the corp, or something. I don't see the difference between corp hopping and the iMune alliance "exploit" though, sorry for the confusion. |
Karentaki
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.06.12 13:41:00 -
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Simple way to identify macros:
If they are playing 23/7 on a regular basis, then they are either account sharing or macroing. Both are exploits. Ban them. |
Confuzer
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2009.06.12 14:13:00 -
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There are somany easy things which make it allready better:
- Hard to read CAPTCHA when creating account - Give players easier ways to report macro instead of **** petition interface (instead use right click menu) - Ask other game companies for help on client side detection - Delay local long enough for people to catch macro ratters in mining belts - Make content more dynamic - And lots more small points... |
Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.06.12 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Karentaki Simple way to identify macros:
If they are playing 23/7 on a regular basis, then they are either account sharing or macroing. Both are exploits. Ban them.
we wish it was that simple |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.06.12 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Confuzer - Make content more dynamic
Of your suggestions, this is the only one that would make any real difference (for a while). |
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CCP Zymurgist
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Posted - 2009.06.12 14:39:00 -
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If you truly believe you have found a player who is a macro player you are completely welcome to submit a petition including the persons name, where you saw them, and at what time.
If you feel this is not enough there are several in game mechanics that can be employed to make yourself feel better about the situation. Pew Pew! |
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Ervol Libra
Amarr Pinky and the Brain corp
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Posted - 2009.06.12 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist If you truly believe you have found a player who is a macro player you are completely welcome to submit a petition including the persons name, where you saw them, and at what time.
If you feel this is not enough there are several in game mechanics that can be employed to make yourself feel better about the situation. Pew Pew!
Disable concord first tyvm or move everyone out of npc corps. else pew pew isnt really an option (unless ur a rich bastard with enough alts to take the sec hits) |
Sun Clausewitz
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Posted - 2009.06.12 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ervol Libra
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist If you truly believe you have found a player who is a macro player you are completely welcome to submit a petition including the persons name, where you saw them, and at what time.
If you feel this is not enough there are several in game mechanics that can be employed to make yourself feel better about the situation. Pew Pew!
Disable concord first tyvm or move everyone out of npc corps. else pew pew isnt really an option (unless ur a rich bastard with enough alts to take the sec hits)
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Pick Three: Caldari/PVP/Solo/Success |
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Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2009.06.12 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ervol Libra
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist If you truly believe you have found a player who is a macro player you are completely welcome to submit a petition including the persons name, where you saw them, and at what time.
If you feel this is not enough there are several in game mechanics that can be employed to make yourself feel better about the situation. Pew Pew!
Disable concord first tyvm or move everyone out of npc corps. else pew pew isnt really an option (unless ur a rich bastard with enough alts to take the sec hits)
Not to be a spoilsport...but if you were to say look in Crime&Punishment...Look for threads mentioning suiciding hulks. And join them folks.. They seem to be having a blast (literally).
If the situation irks you so badly.. Go for it. The sec hits for just straight up ship destruction isn't too bad, and you don't need *that* much firepower to blast a hulk out of the sky (and after insurance, its not that expensive)
The situation does not irk me at all..so I don't do it. (Well, okay..maybe *once* but I was running a protection racket at the time and they hadn't paid on time ) --
Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
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Karentaki
Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.06.12 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Clausewitz
Originally by: Karentaki Simple way to identify macros:
If they are playing 23/7 on a regular basis, then they are either account sharing or macroing. Both are exploits. Ban them.
we wish it was that simple
Explain... Please. I'm interested how you propose someone can play 23/7 regularly without dying.
Quote:
EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
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Sir Muffoon
Backdoor Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.06.12 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Karentaki
Explain... Please. I'm interested how you propose someone can play 23/7 regularly without dying.
It's not that simple because CCP is desperately clinging to any excuse in order to not ban them. |
Admiral IceBlock
Caldari Northern Intelligence
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Posted - 2009.06.12 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 12/06/2009 15:06:38 http://noint.net/entertainment/farm/ Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Thebro Nobrunder
Schrodinger's Renegades
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Posted - 2009.06.12 15:08:00 -
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They don't need to reimburse your ship loss. 4+ of the right T1 cruisers with T1 modules can gank a hulk in high sec. You effectively loose nothing. Even the sec hit is minimal as long as you don't pod the guy.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2009.06.12 15:21:00 -
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Macro mining belts is bad enough, but really not such a problem because if you send in a bunch of macros the belt will be cleared quickly and then the ore is gone - the search for new or can take a while.
Mission mining is a bit worse.
But the real problem is ice harvesting. There is (almost) infinite supply of ice at always the same location. You can send in fleets of macros and efficiently scale your income with each more bot.
And this is what happens right now.
Please CCP, look into ice harvesting seriously. Thin out those ice belts drastically.
And what happened with your plans to move ice belts to low sec anyway? It was announced more than 1 1/2 years ago, nothing happened since then, did it? |
Etien Aldragoran
DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 15:35:00 -
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I cant imagine Eve without macros. Trit might become more valuable than mexallon. |
Armoured C
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Etien Aldragoran I cant imagine Eve without macros. Trit might become more valuable than mexallon again.
fixed |
Zex Maxwell
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.12 15:37:00 -
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I like to add:
The current mining system makes it way to easy to manage mining alts. I have 1 Orca and 2 Hulks mining on a belt at the same time. I heard and seen people doing more hulks at the same time.
I also like to add, I don't macro mine. I rather sit on my PC for hours on end, then have a big chance of loosing my accounts due to macro mining, Or loose my ships when I am AFK. |
Gunnanmon
Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.06.12 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sir Muffoon
Originally by: Karentaki
Explain... Please. I'm interested how you propose someone can play 23/7 regularly without dying.
It's not that simple because CCP is desperately clinging to any excuse in order to not ban them.
Completely. Banning them would result in less income. That will make them unhappy. |
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