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Cadela Fria
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ayman Zawahiri
Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: Itzena Volume, mostly.
So you make a lot of posts, and a lot of those posts are breaking the rules. You are still playing outside the frame of the game. Rules are rules. Regardless of how funny you think it is to break them and then go nuts at CCP whenever someone tries to do something similar.
Which rules have been broken. Perhaps you should report these infractions post haste good sir.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/w/index.php?title=Forum_Rules <-- Or perhaps you could pass this around in goonswarm and get people to abide by the rules so that you can live up to your self-rightous image of "playing inside the frame of the game". |
Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Cadela Fria Fact remains that goon posts are the ones being moderated, deleted or locked for trolling, personal attacks and flaming. Thats what rules are all about.
Including this soon to be locked troll thread that was started by those evil Goons...
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Ayman Zawahiri
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: Ayman Zawahiri
Originally by: Cadela Fria
That doesn't even make any sense..Nothing I'm saying will get moderated, or get me a forum warning. Dont try to cover up the truth with some lame attempt at spin.
If you're going to be self-rightous about how goons play, at least stick to the rules.
One person's spam is another person's post. For instance I interpret most of your post as spam. It's all a matter of perspective. That is what interpersonal communication skills are all about.
You can analyse my post from here till the end of time. Fact remains that goon posts are the ones being moderated, deleted or locked for trolling, personal attacks and flaming. Thats what rules are all about.
If posts are being moderated then it stands to show that rules are actually being enforced and not broken.
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Cupdeez
Caldari Out of Order Tenth Legion
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine
Short answer is goons are as dirty as Band of Brothers ever was. Probably far worse. But Goons are also much better at threadnaughting and bullying the devs as well. Still Eve goes on and doubtless we'll be reading about Goon scandals in a couple of years and wondering why anyone was stupid enough to defend them.
I don't agree with this at all. You must be somewhat newer to EVE. I don't like Goons and I don't like BOB but I can tell you one thing. BOB didn't play within the game mechanics back about 2 years ago.
I could link some youtube footage but CCP would take it down.
Now as far as I know what Goons did to BOB was dirty but within the game mechanics. On the other note if BOB had the same opportunity they would have done the same thing.
I on aside note I know damn well -aaa- has seen BOB play outside of the game mechanics back about 2 years ago when things were kind of crazy.
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von Goethe
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:28:00 -
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I'm not sure if people are being intentionally obtuse or they are just simply morons. There's a difference between breaking the rules, when these rules are something subjective like "don't troll", and cheating.
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Venomire
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:30:00 -
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Cadela Fria, please refrain from discussing moderation. It is against the forum rules.
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Cadela Fria
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ayman Zawahiri
Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: Ayman Zawahiri
Originally by: Cadela Fria
That doesn't even make any sense..Nothing I'm saying will get moderated, or get me a forum warning. Dont try to cover up the truth with some lame attempt at spin.
If you're going to be self-rightous about how goons play, at least stick to the rules.
One person's spam is another person's post. For instance I interpret most of your post as spam. It's all a matter of perspective. That is what interpersonal communication skills are all about.
You can analyse my post from here till the end of time. Fact remains that goon posts are the ones being moderated, deleted or locked for trolling, personal attacks and flaming. Thats what rules are all about.
If posts are being moderated then it stands to show that rules are actually being enforced and not broken.
If the rules are being enforced its because somebody broke them. If the rules are being followed, then you dont have to enforce them.
Goons are breaking the rules, ingame and out of game by spamming, trolling, flaming and personal attacks, and thus the rules are being enforced to prevent it.
If goons on the other hand just stuck to playing the game inside the rules, then the rules didn't have to be enforced.
I really see no point in why you are trying to confuse the language.
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Cadela Fria
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Venomire Cadela Fria, please refrain from discussing moderation. It is against the forum rules.
I know you're trying to sound clever and cause a few giggles with your peers and yourself, but for the sake of answering you. Nobody is discussing the methodology of moderation. The posts locked, deleted or moderated are 9/10, goon posts.
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Vaustrien
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:35:00 -
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Yarrrr I'm internet spaceship nerd and I maek poast about e-honor.
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CARY
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: CARY on 12/06/2009 16:39:56
Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: CARY
Originally by: Blaster Worm http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7905924.stm?ad=1 "Such swindles left some players in awe of EVE's potential for realism, whilst others called for a stronger code of ethics in the game. But spymaster Mittani scoffed at calls for in-game morals, noting that without dirty tricks, GoonSwarm would have had no chance of toppling a more established corporation like BoB. He said: "[i][u]We don't have any advantages, so we can't obey your stupid 'space bushido'. We're going to spy, we're going to use defectors, we're going to lie, cheat, steal and be bastardsö
I like this part, GOONS play completely within the frame of the game. If other want to play EVE by picking flowers and looking at rainbows then enjoy your short stay. GOONS know its a kill or be killed world of EVE, just like many nations of the world.
You play *completely* within the frame of the game do you? I suppose that explains why your posts gets locked, moderated or delete entirely all the time by the forum mods. Not to mention your spamming ingame. I'm sure that has never gotten any of you muted or temp-banned before..
But thats okay right? Because bob did the same thing once...So its okay that you do it.
Clearly none of those thing ever happen to me and you seem confused at best or you talking about GOONS in general. Spamming ingame? banned??? U MAD? Because you clearly LYING |
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Cadela Fria
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: CARY
Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: CARY
Originally by: Blaster Worm http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/mpapps/pagetools/print/news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7905924.stm?ad=1 "Such swindles left some players in awe of EVE's potential for realism, whilst others called for a stronger code of ethics in the game. But spymaster Mittani scoffed at calls for in-game morals, noting that without dirty tricks, GoonSwarm would have had no chance of toppling a more established corporation like BoB. He said: "[i][u]We don't have any advantages, so we can't obey your stupid 'space bushido'. We're going to spy, we're going to use defectors, we're going to lie, cheat, steal and be bastards”
I like this part, GOONS play completely within the frame of the game. If other want to play EVE by picking flowers and looking at rainbows then enjoy your short stay. GOONS know its a kill or be killed world of EVE, just like many nations of the world.
You play *completely* within the frame of the game do you? I suppose that explains why your posts gets locked, moderated or delete entirely all the time by the forum mods. Not to mention your spamming ingame. I'm sure that has never gotten any of you muted or temp-banned before..
But thats okay right? Because bob did the same thing once...So its okay that you do it.
Clearly none of those these ever happen to me and you seem confused at best. Spamming ingame? banned??? U MAD? Because you clearly LYING
You know perfectly well what I mean, but no doubt you will continue to pretend otherwise. |
Murk Loar
Caldari O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:41:00 -
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I didn't realise posting in threads was playing the game.tia
*starts playing THE GAME
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CARY
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: CARY on 12/06/2009 16:41:56 I am yanking your perfect -A- chain too hard? |
Ayman Zawahiri
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Cadela Fria
If the rules are being enforced its because somebody broke them. If the rules are being followed, then you dont have to enforce them.
Goons are breaking the rules, ingame and out of game by spamming, trolling, flaming and personal attacks, and thus the rules are being enforced to prevent it.
Perhaps your own prejudices towards goons has colored your perception. I wish you would not stereotype us. Although I recognize this is a flaw of human nature. People are naturally prejudiced against those not of their ethnic origin, nationality, or religion.
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von Goethe
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ayman Zawahiri Perhaps your own prejudices towards goons has colored your perception. I wish you would not stereotype us. Although I recognize this is a flaw of human nature. People are naturally prejudiced against those not of their ethnic origin, nationality, or religion.
I agree with Ayman Zawahiri's wise words. |
CrispyKritters
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: CrispyKritters on 12/06/2009 16:55:10 Edited by: CrispyKritters on 12/06/2009 16:54:09 Ah yes, the great and honoUrable AAA Alliance, they would never sell isk out of game or fight with other alliances who sell isk out of game and thus break a major game rule, that would just be silly, you might say... hypocritical. |
Cadela Fria
Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ayman Zawahiri
Originally by: Cadela Fria
If the rules are being enforced its because somebody broke them. If the rules are being followed, then you dont have to enforce them.
Goons are breaking the rules, ingame and out of game by spamming, trolling, flaming and personal attacks, and thus the rules are being enforced to prevent it.
Perhaps your own prejudices towards goons has colored your perception. I wish you would not stereotype us. Although I recognize this is a flaw of human nature. People are naturally prejudiced against those not of their ethnic origin, nationality, or religion.
For what im saying to be prejudice, there would be have to be a distinct lack of data concerning what I'm saying. Some of you have already acknowledged that what I'm saying is true, with some reservations granted..but all in all that means I don't have to go and dig out proof of what I'm talking about, because its not like its not common knowledge. |
Ayman Zawahiri
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: Ayman Zawahiri
Originally by: Cadela Fria
If the rules are being enforced its because somebody broke them. If the rules are being followed, then you dont have to enforce them.
Goons are breaking the rules, ingame and out of game by spamming, trolling, flaming and personal attacks, and thus the rules are being enforced to prevent it.
Perhaps your own prejudices towards goons has colored your perception. I wish you would not stereotype us. Although I recognize this is a flaw of human nature. People are naturally prejudiced against those not of their ethnic origin, nationality, or religion.
For what im saying to be prejudice, there would be have to be a distinct lack of data concerning what I'm saying. Some of you have already acknowledged that what I'm saying is true, with some reservations granted..but all in all that means I don't have to go and dig out proof of what I'm talking about, because its not like its not common knowledge.
It's just a few bad apples. |
Myz Toyou
Minmatar Ministry of Destruction SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Alekanderu
Originally by: Myz Toyou
Originally by: Fossil Wolf
to be fair they did make a public apology and the member was kicked for number one
Thanks for this. Awsum how NC people were embarrest over Goons actions, times have changed it seems
that was almost three years ago, so yeah times have changed genius
But you havent, sadly. |
CARY
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: CARY on 12/06/2009 17:00:09 I think Cadela Fria is just on the rag this morning and flaming...............A bad day in the office! |
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Cippalippus Primus
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:03:00 -
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Is this the "holier than thou" thread of 2009? |
Montasque
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:08:00 -
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This thread is an embarrassment, and I have no idea what point you were trying to make with it. Mittens is talking about a video-game, Darius is talking about American VS European political culture. Apples and Oranges, but please, keep posting about how you hate us GOONIES, since it makes you look even more pathetic and bitter.
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Snowden Vel
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Montasque This thread is an embarrassment, and I have no idea what point you were trying to make with it. Mittens is talking about a video-game, Darius is talking about American VS European political culture.
Way to miss the point :rolleyes:
We need to hold our internet spaceship clubs to the same standards of accountability, transparency, and ethical conduct which we demand of our governments.
I long for the day when the EVE TOS will be displayed in museums alongside the constitutions of our many nations as one of the vital documents which charted the course of human progress. |
Orree
Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Blaster Worm
<snip>
He said: "We don't have any advantages, so we can't obey your stupid 'space bushido'. We're going to spy, we're going to use defectors, we're going to lie, cheat, steal and be bastards."
<snip>
It isn't like Mittani or Goons originated this behavior or brought it to this game.
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Luna Nilaya
Caldari Blood Works Inc. Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Genuinely Windypops I actually don't think that's the case - we all know from the forum leaks how much MM hate GS.
Yes, those couple of MM members, who wanted to go back to north to fight the Guristas, speak for the whole alliance. |
Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: Butter Dog on 12/06/2009 17:30:26
Originally by: Luna Nilaya
Originally by: Genuinely Windypops I actually don't think that's the case - we all know from the forum leaks how much MM hate GS.
Yes, those couple of MM members, who wanted to go back to north to fight the Guristas, speak for the whole alliance.
anyone with even the most basic knowledge of MM, what they roleplay, and how they are led, understand they are at the opposite end of the spectrum to goonswarm on the immature/bigoted/******ed radar
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jm24
Minmatar Rho Holding Corp GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:34:00 -
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Blaster Worm, If you have a problem with the morality of our actions over the internet ...... :3:
Also, this thread should be locked for quoting articles whilst having no actual discussion in the OP. Rules are rules, after all. |
Kanoubi
Amarr Enseki
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:39:00 -
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NAFnist
Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:40:00 -
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look at these Pirate Legion guys, trying to make it sound like its good to be evil ;p
Samson Savage > From HED to FAT, Catch is Goons. DarkGold Dragon > Start to move your stuff out now! |
DeBleu14
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.12 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Genuinely Windypops Well considering the 3 things they're most famous for are:
1) Making forum signatures mocking deceased players 2) Launching a threadnought and negative PR campaign against the game when they didn't get their way in a standoff with CCP 3) Targetting individual players with out of game abuse...
Decide for yourself...
and crybabies like yourself are going to whine about these until the end of time
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