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Rex BrightStar
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Posted - 2009.06.12 18:46:00 -
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i am a service member and am curently unable to login to the game to set up my training. is thier any way to out of game train and if not can you add it to the website so i dont loose all the time i could be training. i know i am not the only one that would like for this to be answered. |
Hayaishi
Gallente East Eve Trading Co.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 18:51:00 -
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the reason why a function like this has not been added to the game is because its a game... if people were to play eve from their web browser, then they wouldnt be drawn in to play the game, and thus reducing the game at the same time...
this is why there isnt a 1 month skill queue... |
Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
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Posted - 2009.06.12 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Niko Lorenzio on 12/06/2009 18:53:52 You could always ask your gf, family, or friends to change skills for you. You could even change the password to something simpler if you dont trust the person for the time being.
I've changed skills for like 4-5 different people I didn't even know in RL and met through EvE |
Hayaishi
Gallente East Eve Trading Co.
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Posted - 2009.06.12 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Niko Lorenzio Edited by: Niko Lorenzio on 12/06/2009 18:53:52 You could always ask your gf, family, or friends to change skills for you. You could even change the password to something simpler if you dont trust the person for the time being.
I've changed skills for like 4-5 different people I didn't even know in RL and met through EvE
sounds like a EULA violation to me... i could be wrong. |
Caldari 5
Amarr The Element Syndicate Black Mesa Project
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Posted - 2009.06.12 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Hayaishi
Originally by: Niko Lorenzio Edited by: Niko Lorenzio on 12/06/2009 18:53:52 You could always ask your gf, family, or friends to change skills for you. You could even change the password to something simpler if you dont trust the person for the time being.
I've changed skills for like 4-5 different people I didn't even know in RL and met through EvE
sounds like a EULA violation to me... i could be wrong.
I was just thinking the same thing.
OOG skill changes has been something that has been needed for ages, especially important for the sub 1 year old characters that don't have long skills to run when they are on holidays, not every net cafe around the world has Eve installed on their PCs. |
Rex BrightStar
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Posted - 2009.06.12 19:11:00 -
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it may be as you say. but the fact remains that the rules state that you cant give access to you account to anyone else or risk loosing you acount. now if they did this you would still have to play for money and everything else but you could update your skill that is training and add skills to the training que. it wouldnt take away from the game just add user friendly support for those people who cant get on and dont want to violate the rules that ccp laid down.
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Lear Hepburn
Caldari Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Transcendent
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Posted - 2009.06.12 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Rex BrightStar i am a service member and am curently unable to login to the game to set up my training. is thier any way to out of game train and if not can you add it to the website so i dont loose all the time i could be training. i know i am not the only one that would like for this to be answered.
It is unfortunate. I too am a service member and understand your pain. The vast majority of places I go have some form of internet access - certainly enough to enable me to carry out a skill change - but there are certainly plenty of places to go where there is barely water, let alone the net! As I see it you can either break the EULA as suggested (although how anyone would know is beyond me), put your character on hold (i.e. don't pay the subscription for a period) or pay to not get anything.
An OOG option would have far more detrimental effects than it would beneficial ones, same as a long skill queue. |
Rex BrightStar
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Posted - 2009.06.12 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Rex BrightStar on 12/06/2009 19:34:13 i dont see how it would be detremintal to the game experience, and further more it would help let people who like you and me cant get on when deployed. you can veiw where your skill training is now. if you add the ability to set the next one up when thats done then all your doing is the same thang as some people that dont have alot of time to play but access to play. |
Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
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Posted - 2009.06.12 19:32:00 -
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You guys were right!
"EVE EULA 2. YOUR ACCOUNT B. Passwords and Names ...You will be assigned a login name and a character name during the registration and character creation process. You may not allow anyone to use your login name or character name to access the System or play EVE. No player may use the character name of another player to impersonate or falsely represent his or her identity. You may not obtain, attempt to obtain, use or attempt to use the login name or character name of anyone else."
This is total bs tho imo. I really doubt they mind someone close to you to login for you. This is probably there for those whiners that gave their accounts to untrustworthy hands, then got jipped for ISK, or even worse got their accounts deleted, and then were crying to CCP to get it back. |
Rex BrightStar
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Posted - 2009.06.12 19:46:00 -
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but then you have to worry about them doing the wrong thang. it could be somthing simple and dumb but costs days to fix. with my idea you would be in control and you wouldnt have to find people, or teach people how to do what you need. i dont want them to make it where you can add new skills but to allow you to set your training on the website. this way you still have to play to get more of everything. |
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Lear Hepburn
Caldari Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Transcendent
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Rex BrightStar Edited by: Rex BrightStar on 12/06/2009 19:34:13 i dont see how it would be detremintal to the game experience, and further more it would help let people who like you and me cant get on when deployed. you can veiw where your skill training is now. if you add the ability to set the next one up when thats done then all your doing is the same thang as some people that dont have alot of time to play but access to play.
Character farming. Lots and lots of character farming that way. Make it easy and those who do "earn" their SP will have them devalued by character farmers selling high SP characters for less and less cash.
Yes, it would help people like us, but we are but a small part of the Eve community.
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Rex BrightStar
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Posted - 2009.06.12 20:10:00 -
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people are going to Character farm no matter what becouse they can make more money than the subscriptions costs. it will happen and yes it would partially make it easyer for them th do it. but you cant stop them from doing it and making it easyer for people to skill train is not a bad thing.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2009.06.12 21:33:00 -
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5 to 6 years of these type of threads got us a 24 hour skill queue. Do the math. |
Lear Hepburn
Caldari Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Transcendent
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Posted - 2009.06.12 22:00:00 -
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Edited by: Lear Hepburn on 12/06/2009 22:00:10
Originally by: Rex BrightStar people are going to Character farm no matter what becouse they can make more money than the subscriptions costs. it will happen and yes it would partially make it easyer for them th do it. but you cant stop them from doing it and making it easyer for people to skill train is not a bad thing.
Allowing people to affect in-game matters from OOG has several effects, including reducing immersion and reducing incentive to actually play; how many time have you logged on to "just change a skill" and ended up being online for an hour? I know I have done so several times. This may reduce the numbers online, which may in turn reduce the enjoyment of those who go online to play the game. Risking such results for the sake of as small a population as you/me/those others who genuinely can't get online for some reason does not seem sensible to me, even as one of that population. |
Johli
Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.06.12 23:15:00 -
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1. get an iphone/G1 2. get a computer somewhere, and have it either on all the time or have somebody able to turn it on 3. install vnc on the phone and the computer 4. access the computer through the phone 5. log into eve 6. ??? 7. profit |
Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2009.06.13 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Johli 1. get an iphone/G1 2. get a computer somewhere, and have it either on all the time or have somebody able to turn it on 3. install vnc on the phone and the computer 4. access the computer through the phone 5. log into eve 6. ??? 7. profit
Because the mobile service in the afghan desert is that great! |
Salpad
Caldari Carebears with Attitude
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Posted - 2009.06.13 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Hayaishi
Originally by: Niko Lorenzio Edited by: Niko Lorenzio on 12/06/2009 18:53:52 You could always ask your gf, family, or friends to change skills for you. You could even change the password to something simpler if you dont trust the person for the time being.
I've changed skills for like 4-5 different people I didn't even know in RL and met through EvE
sounds like a EULA violation to me... i could be wrong.
It's an EULA violation if you get caught.
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Rex BrightStar
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Posted - 2009.06.13 12:14:00 -
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like you get signal on a ship for 2 to 6 months. even if you did make an out of game trainer. its not like you could add skills just use what you have. you would still have to get on the game to add and injoy the game. even if it is as you say then so be it but you know as well as i do that adding an out of game trainer will not take away from the ingame player count becouse that doesnt efect your money ingame. plus you cant get ships and anything else out of game. the whole reason i joined this game over the others is the whole ingame experiance. |
Ausser
Cybertech Industrials Agency
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Posted - 2009.06.13 13:16:00 -
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the only way you could solve the problem atm is to let someone in your family change the skills for you according to a skill list you have prepared. that's common practice - notwithstanding elua.
if you expect your family does funny things with your char, you can at least park your wealth in another account (which gets subscription suspended) meanwhile. so they only can mess up your reputation and standings.
long skills will not help since you will soon run out of them (and they dont last long enough either).
good luck out there |
Johli
Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.06.13 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Originally by: Johli 1. get an iphone/G1 2. get a computer somewhere, and have it either on all the time or have somebody able to turn it on 3. install vnc on the phone and the computer 4. access the computer through the phone 5. log into eve 6. ??? 7. profit
Because the mobile service in the afghan desert is that great!
wifi? if you don't have internet access at all even something like integrated website skill training would be useless, no?
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Caldari 5
Amarr The Element Syndicate Black Mesa Project
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Posted - 2009.06.13 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Johli
Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Originally by: Johli 1. get an iphone/G1 2. get a computer somewhere, and have it either on all the time or have somebody able to turn it on 3. install vnc on the phone and the computer 4. access the computer through the phone 5. log into eve 6. ??? 7. profit
Because the mobile service in the afghan desert is that great!
wifi? if you don't have internet access at all even something like integrated website skill training would be useless, no?
I've been to a few locations that have Satellite Internet access and no Mobile Phone Coverage. unfortunately 2 way Satellite communications is laggy as anything, great bandwidth though, so realtime interactions just make you mad, but webpages are responsive :P |
kongking wang
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Posted - 2009.06.14 04:16:00 -
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i like this idea. it will not increase character farming at all as in order to change your skills you are required to go into eve and log on to change your skills at the end of your skill que. with access to skills only on eve.com you are still logging in howether you are not logging into the game client because you might not have access to it. this would allow otherwise regular players to still have the same access to skills. hell they are paying for it so why shouldnt they have the ability.
weather i log into the game to change it or onto eveonline.com is irrelevent. offline skill trg is a part of eve and the only offline feature of the game.giving better access to this feature will not affect ingame features at all |
Rex BrightStar
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Posted - 2009.06.14 13:20:00 -
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finally someone who understands what i am getting at. |
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