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Isokuro
Yamamoto Tech.
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Posted - 2012.05.17 08:42:00 -
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still waiting for a crimewatch devblog here.....
Would like to know if in this war related patch we can finally start fighting empire wardeccing allainces or that we still have to hang up with remote repping alts and boosters all over the place. since there has been so much talk about this subject since the fanfest... yet still there is not a single post , devblog or anything on the test server about this.
Since the defenders can't step out of wars anymore it would be nice to atleast remove all these alt tools from the agressors that specialize in empire wars. I don't mind them having these tools at all by the way. but atleast make it so that they have to be in the same corp/allaince to do the tasks there doing.
Not sure if there are any other things that bother wardeccers the most but the top 3 atm is probably:
1: neutral remote repping alts 2: neutral fleetboosters. ( atleast the repping alts go red when they do something ) 3. loot thieves. ( the wrecks of ships you killed should give you rights to kill people that still from it )
Thats about it I think for now.
Let the flaming begin!
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knulla
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.17 08:47:00 -
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well before the flames do come I will say that I agree with you. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.05.17 08:58:00 -
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Last we heardGǪ
1. neutral reps will be flagged as GÇ£suspectsGÇ¥ and become legal targets to anyone in the system. 2. fleet bosters aren't doing anything aggressive and will, as always, won't get flagged for anything. 3. killing people doesn't convey ownership and doesn't need any rewards. The stuff will still belong to the victim and anyone stealing it will be flagged GÇ£suspectGÇ¥ (including you). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Shift-click does nothing GÇö why the Unified Inventory isn't ready for primetime. |
Isokuro
Yamamoto Tech.
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Posted - 2012.05.17 09:31:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Last we heardGǪ
1. neutral reps will be flagged as GÇ£suspectsGÇ¥ and become legal targets to anyone in the system. 2. fleet bosters aren't doing anything aggressive and will, as always, won't get flagged for anything. 3. killing people doesn't convey ownership and doesn't need any rewards. The stuff will still belong to the victim and anyone stealing it will be flagged GÇ£suspectGÇ¥ (including you).
and when is the last time we heard this ?
in the video's of fanfest.... |
RubyPorto
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1520
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Posted - 2012.05.17 10:19:00 -
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Isokuro wrote: Since the defenders can't step out of wars anymore
Yeah they can. Rt Click Toon -> Remove Roles -> Quit Corp.
You just won't be allowed back in for a week. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
Draydin Warsong
Jetcan Reclaimation Service
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Posted - 2012.05.17 11:13:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Isokuro wrote: Since the defenders can't step out of wars anymore
Yeah they can. Rt Click Toon -> Remove Roles -> Quit Corp. You just won't be allowed back in for a week.
Hmmm I thought the war followed you now...IE if you jump corp to a newb corp your still attackable by your former war targets until that war ends...is this not the case? |
Isokuro
Yamamoto Tech.
3
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Posted - 2012.05.17 11:15:00 -
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Draydin Warsong wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Isokuro wrote: Since the defenders can't step out of wars anymore
Yeah they can. Rt Click Toon -> Remove Roles -> Quit Corp. You just won't be allowed back in for a week. Hmmm I thought the war followed you now...IE if you jump corp to a newb corp your still attackable by your former war targets until that war ends...is this not the case?
^^ thats what i thought aswell.
yet still CCP, CRIMEWATCH any answers ?!? |
RubyPorto
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1521
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:49:00 -
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Isokuro wrote:Draydin Warsong wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Isokuro wrote: Since the defenders can't step out of wars anymore
Yeah they can. Rt Click Toon -> Remove Roles -> Quit Corp. You just won't be allowed back in for a week. Hmmm I thought the war followed you now...IE if you jump corp to a newb corp your still attackable by your former war targets until that war ends...is this not the case? ^^ thats what i thought aswell. yet still CCP, CRIMEWATCH any answers ?!?
Devblog wrote: The Corp Hop Song WeGÇÖve also implemented a good suggestion from Fanfest, which is that if you leave your corporation while it is engaged in a non-mutual war, then you will not be able to rejoin the corporation until that war ends, or until 7 days pass, whichever comes first. Note that this rule only applies for non-mutual wars GÇô mutual wars do not prohibit players from entering or leaving corporations. The main reason for this change is to combat the popular alt corp hopping (this doesnGÇÖt stop it completely, but limits it a lot).
Good to hear that carebears can read DevBlogs. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
baltec1
1172
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:55:00 -
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Crimewatch |
Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
182
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Posted - 2012.05.17 18:56:00 -
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I will start with saying what was said during crimewatch.
The flagging system is a horribly complex mess that requires alot of time and effort to fix. Stuff like neutral reppers etc will start being fazed out as hopefully legit merc corps come in to get the good kills. The 60 second flag timer won't help when real pvpers can easily roam between wars and get the easy kills on those that try for easy kills. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
753
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Posted - 2012.05.17 19:59:00 -
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Markus Reese wrote:I will start with saying what was said during crimewatch.
The flagging system is a horribly complex mess that requires alot of time and effort to fix. Stuff like neutral reppers etc will start being fazed out as hopefully legit merc corps come in to get the good kills. The 60 second flag timer won't help when real pvpers can easily roam between wars and get the easy kills on those that try for easy kills. Hope it works out nicely.
Imagine the surprise of the neutral rep alts :) Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Ituhata Saken
Crimson Cross Destroyers
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Posted - 2012.05.17 20:03:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Last we heardGǪ
1. neutral reps will be flagged as GÇ£suspectsGÇ¥ and become legal targets to anyone in the system.
This makes so much sense, I approve.
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Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
126
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Posted - 2012.05.17 20:05:00 -
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Isokuro wrote:
Let the flaming begin!
I got your back, bro.
I think its rather crazy to "overhaul" the war system and leave out those problems.
At the very least the aggression timer needs to be added ASAP. As of my last test-server run (a week back) I was able to RR someone that was actively fighting and docked immediately. LAME.
As excited as I am about the new war mechanics, this is a HUGE problem in hisec wars as is and needs to be dealt with before it can really be called an "overhaul" or a "fix." We have a blog, it is terrible. How to fix Bounty Hunting |
Isokuro
Yamamoto Tech.
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Posted - 2012.05.17 20:35:00 -
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Burseg Sardaukar wrote:Isokuro wrote:
Let the flaming begin!
I got your back, bro. I think its rather crazy to "overhaul" the war system and leave out those problems. At the very least the aggression timer needs to be added ASAP. As of my last test-server run (a week back) I was able to RR someone that was actively fighting and docked immediately. LAME. As excited as I am about the new war mechanics, this is a HUGE problem in hisec wars as is and needs to be dealt with before it can really be called an "overhaul" or a "fix."
what your saying m8.
love the wardeccing overhaul but they leave one or rather 2 big holes open
the remote reps and the neutral booster alts.
the booster alt is just easilly fixed in my eyes, just make everyone that joins fleet with someone that has a dec go red to the agressorts or defenders.
still waiting for a Dev answer |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
764
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Posted - 2012.05.17 20:41:00 -
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CCP Greyscale was saying you will be able to buy back better sec status with commander and officer tags. I think we are all in the dark on timeline though. I was under the impression the new crimewatch was coming with Inferno and now I hear it's not. Who knows...
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Kirith Vespira
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.17 20:43:00 -
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Isn't Crimewatch that old dude using the walker and the woman with blue hair and too many cats that walk around for 10 minutes, get winded, and sit down at a bus stop before heading home again?!!?!? |
Kirith Vespira
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2012.05.17 20:47:00 -
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Sorry, but that's pretty friggin' epic... :-p |
SeaBassSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.17 20:52:00 -
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I'd rather have the CCP developers coding instead of placating whiny publords with a bunch of words.
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
755
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Posted - 2012.05.17 21:08:00 -
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My only question...
Will the suspect flag be 15 minutes like current theft timers, ore will it be something different? |
Isokuro
Yamamoto Tech.
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Posted - 2012.05.17 21:11:00 -
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they can atleast just confirm that its either coming with inferno or not.
and if its coming with inferno maybe a fancy devblog about it... |
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MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
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Posted - 2012.05.17 21:33:00 -
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Isokuro wrote:
the booster alt is just easilly fixed in my eyes, just make everyone that joins fleet with someone that has a dec go red to the agressorts or defenders.
Yeah, that won't get abused at all.
"Ok Bob, we have ten guys in this mining fleet, the gank fleet is ready. Join our fleet with your wardec and the gank fleet will warp in and kill everybody." The Unified Inventory system for Inferno, which I would recommend everybody tryon SiSi, is going to be the next 'Door' for CCP. What it adds is worthless when we lose so much functionality.-á |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.05.17 21:34:00 -
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Gogela wrote:CCP Greyscale was saying you will be able to buy back better sec status with commander and officer tags. I think we are all in the dark on timeline though. I was under the impression the new crimewatch was coming with Inferno and now I hear it's not. Who knows... i asked that is no longer coming in inferno (the tag thing) |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
764
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Posted - 2012.05.17 22:02:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:Gogela wrote:CCP Greyscale was saying you will be able to buy back better sec status with commander and officer tags. I think we are all in the dark on timeline though. I was under the impression the new crimewatch was coming with Inferno and now I hear it's not. Who knows... i asked that is no longer coming in inferno (the tag thing) That is lame
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knulla
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.05.18 02:47:00 -
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having a neut CS boost people at war is ********... |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
436
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Posted - 2012.05.18 09:22:00 -
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Draydin Warsong wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Isokuro wrote: Since the defenders can't step out of wars anymore
Yeah they can. Rt Click Toon -> Remove Roles -> Quit Corp. You just won't be allowed back in for a week. Hmmm I thought the war followed you now...IE if you jump corp to a newb corp your still attackable by your former war targets until that war ends...is this not the case?
Typical example of CCP having a good idea and then nerfing it into something 'meh'. Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for more editors! |
Isokuro
Yamamoto Tech.
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Posted - 2012.05.18 11:33:00 -
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MadMuppet wrote:Isokuro wrote:
the booster alt is just easilly fixed in my eyes, just make everyone that joins fleet with someone that has a dec go red to the agressorts or defenders.
Yeah, that won't get abused at all. "Ok Bob, we have ten guys in this mining fleet, the gank fleet is ready. Join our fleet with your wardec and the gank fleet will warp in and kill everybody."
you allready get a message when you join a fleet that you can't shoot eachother in fleet legally just add to that message that your about to join a fleet that is at war.
the people that are stupid enough to not read it deserve to die! its makes no sense that people joining a fleet that is at war shouldn't get flagged themselves.
its like the dumb safety message on your guns. this will give a message about an fleet in active war. if you wish to continue then you can be legally shot by there wartargets.
how hard can it be.
Still CCP ????? crimewatch in Inferno yes or no ? |
RubyPorto
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1535
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Posted - 2012.05.18 12:06:00 -
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knulla wrote:having a neut CS boost people at war is ********...
How's it different from a booster in a POS or an unscannable* one in a safe?
And who uses CS for off grid boosting? That's what T3 are for.
*assuming nobody's got a virtue set and perfect skills. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
knulla
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.18 12:23:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:knulla wrote:having a neut CS boost people at war is ********... How's it different from a booster in a POS or an unscannable* one in a safe? And who uses CS for off grid boosting? That's what T3 are for. *assuming nobody's got a virtue set and perfect skills.
Listen that is also bullshit! I welcome the day CS is better than a T3 at boosting and is needed/used on grid. |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
258
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Posted - 2012.05.18 12:25:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:knulla wrote:having a neut CS boost people at war is ********... How's it different from a booster in a POS or an unscannable* one in a safe? And who uses CS for off grid boosting? That's what T3 are for. *assuming nobody's got a virtue set and perfect skills.
It's a bit different. It's more like a neutral RR ship with war targets. A neutral boosting t3 alt is just as bad. It's insanely lame. If you are affecting the fight then you better gd well be on the grid as the fight and be shootable. |
RubyPorto
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1536
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Posted - 2012.05.18 12:52:00 -
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Vaal Erit wrote:RubyPorto wrote:knulla wrote:having a neut CS boost people at war is ********... How's it different from a booster in a POS or an unscannable* one in a safe? And who uses CS for off grid boosting? That's what T3 are for. *assuming nobody's got a virtue set and perfect skills. It's a bit different. It's more like a neutral RR ship with war targets. A neutral boosting t3 alt is just as bad. It's insanely lame. If you are affecting the fight then you better gd well be on the grid as the fight and be shootable.
How, exactly is fighting a fleet different if the booster is neutral vs being off grid safed (theoretically but not practically scannable) or in a POS?
And, as I pointed out, a Neutral RR is only different from a WT RR if you're fighting on a station.
If you want to require on grid boosting, I think you've got a long wait ahead of you. Single-Shard, Player Driven-áSandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special. |
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