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matbrum
Best Path Inc. Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.06.17 01:35:00 -
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Targetted racism and abuse = unacceptable
Having an opinion = acceptable
That's how it works where I come from anyway. I have heard several stories of players being targetted by abusive/racist individuals. Upon petition the offender has usually been banned for several days upon review of the chat logs.
On the other hand people are allowed their opinions. Just block/smack/pod those you find being idiots and get on with serious internet spaceships business.
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SquidVictory
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Posted - 2009.06.17 02:35:00 -
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Look there is a "block" option and chat filter... Most of the people that are talking smack and being racist are just screwing around Don't take anything on the internet too seriously Cuz you'll just end up making yourself look like a whining troll |
Killer Gandry
Caldari Red Horizon Inc
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Posted - 2009.06.17 02:40:00 -
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Racist comments hold the value you give to them.
That's the only way racism get's power.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.17 03:27:00 -
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Quote: Whats ur story folks? dont bother to reply if ur a troll.
This whole topic as presented by the op is trollish. You offered no specific example of an offense; you did not explain what you meant by racism in game that is not being aggressively curtailed. If you have a specific problem report it and it will be addressed... if not you are just trying to stir up trouble here...that is the definition of a troll.
Remember to some degree this game is about role playing fictional racist factions. Even people who claim to hate roleplay use "rollplay" as a justification for pirating in game. So I'm thinking yes.. it maybe mostly your imagination.
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Arcturus Delanto
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Posted - 2009.06.17 03:43:00 -
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How many times have you heard the following:
"I'm going to jew it up this evening" "Ra have a low of Jew moons" "I'm headed to Jew town to pick up a new ship" "I jewed the guy down to 100mil isk"
may not be racism, but it is bigotry.
And yes, CCP DOESN'T CARE.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.17 03:59:00 -
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Edited by: Barbara Nichole on 17/06/2009 04:03:17 Never...until now. Who are you hanging out with? And how do you know CCP doesn't care? Have you submitted screen shots? I suspect most of racially changed phrases here are idioms from outside of eve that people don't think hard on... but honestly I haven't seen this in eve.
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Hurtado Soneka
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.06.17 04:25:00 -
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Racists is EvE?
No way, only 1 religion left and slavery to cover the other thing... |
Franga
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2009.06.17 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Arcturus Delanto How many times have you heard the following:
"I'm going to jew it up this evening" "Ra have a low of Jew moons" "I'm headed to Jew town to pick up a new ship" "I jewed the guy down to 100mil isk"
may not be racism, but it is bigotry.
And yes, CCP DOESN'T CARE.
Ahh, never? What the hell kind of people do you get around with in EVE?
And yeah, CCP doesn't care. They really should monitor every chat log that occurs in the game and flag specific words like China does for a game. Jerks.
Also, to the OP. Love how you've started a thread, told trolls not to reply (seriously, you must want them to) and then only contributed to the discussion once after that. Excellent. |
Kewso
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Posted - 2009.06.17 05:53:00 -
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reminds me of all the whining that happened when youtube clones got started.
with godtube and jewtube
course i think they finally shut down lol
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Fille Balle
Dissolution Of Eternity Event Horizon.
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Posted - 2009.06.17 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Robot Robot Americans need to remember that blanket protection of hateful speech is a pretty uniquely American idea. That sort of stuff doesn't fly in most of the rest of the world. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech)
Also, Eve Online isn't an American game. In Iceland, simply uttering the word "******" can land you in jail. Further, even if Eve were an American game, CCP would have every legal right to restrict speech within it however they want in the interest of an enjoyable experience for their customers (the first amendment only applies to the federal government).
Personally, I would love to see CCP handing out automatic 30 day chat bans (prevents use of eve voice and chatting in any chat box, be it local, corp or private convo) for any hateful use of "******," "***got" or similar. Account banning for second offence. If you want to call someone "Caldari Pig-dog" or "Minmatar Scum," that's fine. But hateful and violent speech from the out-of-game world is just pure asshattery and shouldn't be tolerated.
Well now. Not quite true. Most european countries allow racist expressions, but not if it is used as a way to harass someone. But then the crime committed is actually harassment, and not uttering a racist expression. Saying it once or twice, or saying it as a joke is not a crime in any way.
In fact, in Norway they put made a new law about 10 years ago, which stated that you could direct certain insults at a police officer, as these words weren't considered an insult, but a compliment. In northern Norway people use racial slurs all the time, and the foreigners that live there have adapted to that life style, and accepted that the natives don't use these expressions out of hatred, but as a way to treat them as "equals".
One other thing your forgetting is that there might be a RP reason for allowing some limited amount of "racism". My general advice to anybody that feels offended is: forget about it. Sticks and stones may brake my bones, but my soul remains free.
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Steve Celeste
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.06.17 09:23:00 -
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I think racism is great.
Unless it's against Caldari :( |
Tiny Tove
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Posted - 2009.06.17 09:31:00 -
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Simple Rule of Thumb.
If you want your petition to be answered swiftly, and in your favour, start with the words "Hey, I'm a girl and.... [complaint]"
I presume GM Failchu still works for CCP.
Racism? Yeah I imagine that is really bad. Words? On a screen? Ouch. Nobody can offend you without you first granting them permission to do so.
Unless of course you're talking about getting people's RL details, and then visiting them at home and attacking them. Bit hard to [Right Click - Block] a cricket bat I agree, but in those circumstances call the police.
In fact, if you really really really truely believe racism exists in Eve, a virtual simulated environment where nothing can be taken at face value nor can anything be proven, you should call the police anyway, because your racism laws cover pretty much everything (hey whining worked in RL too!) and typing the words will get you a month's community service whether you meant it or not.
So yeah. Ring the police you spineless, easily offended, fluntledooer. That's a word I just invented. It's the most racist thing you can possibly imagine, and then some. See how offended those words on a screen make you feel? Eh? Can you feel it? eh? Can ya? Eh? What ya gonna do about it eh? eh? Come on fluntlescum... come on then! Do it! |
Twin blade
Minmatar The Triangle Veneratio Venator Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.17 11:23:00 -
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Edited by: Twin blade on 17/06/2009 11:24:54 I say most of it is said in a harmless way and that most people reading it go over the top have a hissy fit then whine about it for the next 10 mins. |
Reven Cordelle
Caldari Yamainu-Mirai Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.06.17 11:37:00 -
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Cry some more.
Might be wise to grow a pair and realise there are worse things on the internet, or in life generally.
If you don't do this - you're honestly going to be shocked when you're faced with a real issue.
A 10 day ban for 5 or 6 letters arranged in such a manner as to suggest color or race is ridiculous, to me - the word has very little if any meaning. I just see it as another way for people to say "dude" or "pal". |
Aaron
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Posted - 2009.06.17 12:04:00 -
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dont get me wrong i can handle smak talk, ive had my fare share over the years and havent pettitioned, Reffering to any race in a derogative manner is wrong full stop.
my complaint is that i pay good money to escape from reality, but im still confronted with reality in a game.
CCP must accept that racisim is the lowest form of insult, and they must do all they can to stamp it out,
Ive always been civil to my enemies, and ive made it clear i didnt want them ratting in my system, they recieved numerous warnings but chose to ignore me, yes i was the aggressor and i did destroy a few ships, but thats no reason to be racist.
I had to pettition, we cant let the racists feel it is ok to call me a neeger, i would implore any person of any race to pettion racism.
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Lt Angus
Caldari End Game. Dead End.
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Posted - 2009.06.17 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Arcturus Delanto How many times have you heard the following:
"I'm going to jew it up this evening" "Ra have a low of Jew moons" "I'm headed to Jew town to pick up a new ship" "I jewed the guy down to 100mil isk"
may not be racism, but it is bigotry.
And yes, CCP DOESN'T CARE.
What kinda corp are you in |
Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.06.17 13:34:00 -
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I don't see where is the racism when we say that all Gallente are just gay scumbags, and all Matars are just dustmen who live in trash discharge and has a minimum IQ to create their duct tape who permit to keep their ships in one piece, barely.
Please explain. |
Hoo Is
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Posted - 2009.06.17 13:55:00 -
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As a black, gay, jew transvestite, who is a neo-nazee and a member in good standing with the local K-K-K adna few other white-supremesist organizations... I find this thread full of win-sauce.
We are not prejudice, we hate everyone equally |
Slave 2739FKZ
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Posted - 2009.06.17 14:13:00 -
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Edited by: Slave 2739FKZ on 17/06/2009 14:14:07 Confirming the OP is a fat ****** travesti female who is gay... caldari. |
highonpop
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.17 15:26:00 -
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Edited by: highonpop on 17/06/2009 15:27:12 racism card = tool of a racist.
Just look at Al Sharpton. He pulls out the racism card at every turn he gets.
I think he is racist towards whites for doing that.
Racism is a matter of opinion. This is the internet. Everyone's opinions are welcome, whether you agree with them or not. Someone could do something you think is racist, but someone else doesnt think it is...
advice = get the f*** over it, and just dont pay attention to them.
Most people will only make those comments to get a rise out of you, and if you let them, then they win.
You complaining about someone's comments as racist is the same as someone getting mad about hearing music they dont like, when all they had to do is change the radio station on their FM dial.
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Sergeant Satanstein
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Posted - 2009.06.17 17:25:00 -
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Two words - Hate Gallente.
I am racist, amirite? |
Jitabug
Caldari Viva POS Pinata
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Posted - 2009.06.17 17:43:00 -
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Being abusive is an important part of free speech!
**** responsibility, we're all about the rights of the poor, hard done by, white, caucasian male!
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TimMc
Gallente Extradition
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Posted - 2009.06.17 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Djakku
Originally by: TimMc Welcome to the internet.
Agreed. It's sad but true, the internet gives people an opportunity for people to say whatever they like with little consequence, and there are a lot of idiots out there. Gamers are definitely the worst! I feel there should be some policing mechanism in place in chat, specifically local chat to prevent foul language and racism.
I said welcome to the internet, not welcome to my doll house. The internet is humanity, unfiltered. Its not pretty but I love it. |
Connner
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.06.17 18:12:00 -
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psh, Amarr scum. I might consider not being racist when you let my people free! |
Arcturus Delanto
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Posted - 2009.06.17 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Angus
What kinda corp are you in
This is common in most corps in 0.0 politics. Goons, Pandemic Legion, Razor, Triple A. Listen to any state of the Goonion you'll hear it, head over to scrapheap you will also see it in nearly every thread that talks about money. Sit in Jita for a bit and you'll see it, watch trade chat and its there to. Not sure where yall have been not to see it...
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Leviathan9
Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.
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Posted - 2009.06.17 19:09:00 -
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A wise man once said to me, "use multispec or you get accused of racism". ---------------------------
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Br0ke
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.17 19:26:00 -
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GoonSwarm would never use racism for comedy or to hurt others. These posts are complete slander aimed at vilifying goons.
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.17 19:27:00 -
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C'mon, we are all ****ing adults, grow up and stop letting internet people bother you. ****. People that ***** and moan about racism on the internet are ****ing ******ed. --
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Fille Balle
Dissolution Of Eternity Event Horizon.
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Posted - 2009.06.17 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Druallis C'mon, we are all ****ing adults, grow up and stop letting internet people bother you. ****. People that ***** and moan about racism on the internet are ****ing ******ed.
You Sir, just became my personal hero!
Oh, btw, TL;DR version of what he just said: "Sticks and stones..."
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.06.17 20:22:00 -
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To the OP. Go rent Gran Torino and lighten up. |
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